Berger Bullets!

mrobles3808

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I hate, absolutely hate the fact that every time I get a new barrel I try and deviate from the Berger bullets in hopes to save a little money. Then I find myself always going back to them after spending money to get other bullets to shoot as good. Is it just me or do you experience Berger bullets tend to provide more accuracy? It seems a can take make best load from one manufacturer and shave at least .25" moa consistently when using bergers.
 
In my case it's the hybrids, what a great bullet and yes I wish for a cheaper alternative. Because of the price I've changed over to cheaper bullets when I'm not needing the accuracy or BC the hybrids provide.

I like the Berger 70 vlds in the AR. It's one of the vlds I've had no problem getting or keeping a tune with.

Not exaggerating here at all. I've swagged a seating depth with 105's, 140's and 230 hybrids and didn't feel the need to tune depth on any of them because the loads were so accurate after running a ladder test from 300 to 400Y. Then went right to winning some LR matches.

 
Berger is where it's at! I've used other brands and I'll stay with Berger. I just don't waste the money trying others anymore. They just work for me.


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You are not alone. 210 hunting in my 300wm, 190s for competition. 130 OTM in my 260 for comps and 130 hunting for hunting. Have tried others but these seem to work for me.
 
I have pretty much always stick with Berger. BC numbers are not inflated, consistency and higher performance. I did have a 6mm barrel that hated the hybrid's but loved the amax. When you really look at it $10 more per 100 to increase accuracy why not. I think Hornady, nosler, and Sierra are starting to catch up but the prices are coming up also.
 
I guess I'm in the minority in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Bergers (and Lapua Scenars, too, for that matter), but I've had really good luck with my DTA 6.5 Creedmoor barrel. Barnes Match Burners, Hornady 140 BTHP, Nosler RDF, you name it, and my barrel will just flat out shoot the less expensive options.
 
I tried very hard in the beginning to stay away from both Berger and Lapua to save some pennies, but the fact of the matter is that they just plain work. What's the point of gathering the best parts available to build a rifle if you're not going to use the best reloading components? In my findings they've always has the best consistency and that's always worth a little more.
 
Every rifle is different. I have rifles that shoot other brands better than Bergers. I also have a hunting rifle that is dead nuts with Berger bullets, but I prefer a hunting bullet.
 
I agree. While the VLDs tend to take me awhile (relative) to find the right load (specifically seating depth)...once it's there it's beautifully consistent.

Full disclosure, I haven't shot anything but Bergers (hunting and completion) in 3 years.


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I just worked up a Berger .308 load with their 175 OTM. They are definitely grouping tighter at distance than my previous 178 Amax load. They are 60fps faster with less pressure signs to boot due to their shorter bearing surface.
 
I pretty much only shoot Bergers in F-TR in both my 308 and my 223. (I do have a load for the 80Amax in the 223)
For hunting I get good results in 7mm from the 140SGK and the 140 Accubond
In my 6SLR I shoot 107 Sierras for a match bullet and I have a load for the Berger 105VLD-H

I find Bergers to be very good across the spectrum, but pricey if there is an alternative. In 30cal they have the best BCs of any of the match bullets out there.
 
I just worked up a Berger .308 load with their 175 OTM. They are definitely grouping tighter at distance than my previous 178 Amax load. They are 60fps faster with less pressure signs to boot due to their shorter bearing surface.

I've been considering trying to work up a load with them. I currently shoot and have always shot sierra 175 smk's in my 308. It's done me well but I've thought about giving them a shot. The only Berger i shoot are the 140 hybrids in my 6.5 and they are flawless.


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I love using them, but I do think you pay top dollar for relatively modest benefit. For 6.5s, I've had good luck with 142 SMKs. For 7mm, the 175 and 180 SMKs have performed very well in two of my loads and hits at 1K are just as reliable as with the Berger 180 hybrids. For my 6mm, the hornady 105 BTHPs are a tremendous value and they have also been reliable out to 1K. For my 223, no sense wasting money with Bergers when there are plenty of other options that will get the job done just as well.
 
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I don't have the nicest equipment, but it does seem like 1/2 moa is about the best I can do with Hornady and Nosler bullets whereas the couple loads I have developed with Berger's will shoot 1/4 moa fairly often.  With the others I'll get lucky and shoot a 1/4 moa group maybe one out of ten.  With the Bergers it seems to be more like 4 or 5 times out of ten. That's not the most scientific evidence, but it does make me feel like the Bergers are probably more consistent.
 
I've been running Norma 130gr in my 6.5x47 with some success, though they're not the most consistent things i still got sub half MOA groups with them and they're dirt cheap. However i'm switching to 130gr AR hybrids for the simple fact that i can use them hunting and in competition. Though if Nosler introduces a 130gr RDF i'll likely jump on it.
 
Trying to save money on your bullets is like putting 87 Octane in a viper. Can it be done....yes, should it.... I always buy Berger and don't look back.
 
I feel your pain, it's a love hate relationship with Berger. Love them cause they flat out shoot, hate cause they cost to much. I'm working on load development for a AR and have tried two different bullets from Hornady, three from Serria, one from Nosler, and one from Berger. They have most all shot really good but the 77 gr otm from Berger is shooting almost twice as good as everything else.