Oh boy.... That's one more thing wrong with that video.In that Magpul DVD they shot out to a mile with a 16inch and 20 inch barrel
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Oh boy.... That's one more thing wrong with that video.In that Magpul DVD they shot out to a mile with a 16inch and 20 inch barrel
20" is perfect for hunting in the woods, not too long for suppressor use, reaches 600 yards effectively, and doesn't feel like you're carrying around a tree trunk.
22" is the best "all around" length IMO though....
I say 20" at the most on your AX. I opted for a 18.5 Barlein 1:10 on my AI and I will only be giving up maybe 25fps. I like the portability and extra stiffness of a shorter barrel.
I was using a 20" with a 1-12 twist but couldn't get the velocity and range I wanted, so I had it rebarreled with a Bartlein 24" 1-11.25 I get better velocity and its easier to hit those 1K targets.
I have a different view. The longer the barrel the better the ballistics (up to a limit) so the better all round rifle is the one with the longer barrel. If you have a folder then the longer barrel is even less of an issue. It is not much use if the rifle will not do the job when you get to the shooting position even if you are a bit less sweaty when you get there.
The more you make the shot depend on the shooter, the more opportunity you have for mistakes to be made. The rifle doesn't make the mistakes.
Wind skill is acquired, not innate. One could wear out (a) barrel(s) acquiring it. Forcing that barrel to run closer and closer to peak pressures simply hastens that outcome. Using a shorter barrel simply to make some point or other may even border on willful equipment abuse.
Why somebody would choose to make the LR marksmanship process anything other than easier is contrarian nonsense, IMHO. Hey, hey; look at me, I can make it with a shorter barrel (and the band played on...). So what?
My take on short barrels is that they are optimized for tight quarters. But a bolt Gun? For in close, anything I'd want to carry would be a semi, or at least a pump/lever gun; and it would more likely be a shotgun. If there was ever an instance where less is more, this ain't it.
I repeat; IMHO.
Greg
I have a 20in that I can push a 168 at only 2650. That bullet will tumble at 900 yds. I have a 26in ghst s shoot 178 in at over 2750 and it is still true at 1200yds. I think my next build will be a 24.
I wouldn't say crappy barrel cause the rifle shoots well. Some barrels are faster than others but I would not necessarily say it is always a measure of their quality.
Must have been a crappy barrel, because my 20" factory Savage barrel would push 168 FGMM out at over 2700.
I've got a 16" 1-8 twist I've loaded up with 175 smk and 43 and 44 grains of varget so I'll be interested to see what kind of speeds I get out of them. I'll report back with my findings
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What's your dope at distance? Zero distance, atmosphere...
Who made your barrel too?
I've got a 16" 1-8 twist I've loaded up with 175 smk and 43 and 44 grains of varget so I'll be interested to see what kind of speeds I get out of them. I'll report back with my findings
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Went to 20" with the M110 and will be 16" in the new carbine M110 variant if the funding/testing bears through.The military chose the 24 inch barrel as it provides the best overall performance for their intended use.
My gunsmith seems to think that anything beyond 24" on a .308 and you begin to have diminishing returns, if not losses.
Oh boy.... That's one more thing wrong with that video.
Todd's shooting ability is not the issue. Read the threads, there's more than one. Then you'll know.What else is wrong with that video? Todd is a pretty good distance shooter.
Todd's shooting ability is not the issue. Read the threads, there's more than one. Then you'll know.