Best priming tool??

[Rutter]

Wondering what everyone’s opinion is on the best priming tool. I’m loading for two people now soon to be three. I’m using the frankford Arsenal tool. I like the job it does with being able to set the depth and all. Bad think is after a few this thing kills my hands. Have pretty good size mits, but after awhile I’m needing a break from it. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[dirthead1]

Check out the Primal Rights CPS.

 

[Threadcutter308]

Has it been two weeks already?

 

[Dschapp44]

Cps priming tool. Anyone that recommends something else is just still trying to convince themself it’s not worth the price tag.

 

[CK1.0]

Cps priming tool. Anyone that recommends something else is just still trying to convince themself it’s not worth the price tag.

Or... can close a Captains of Crush so the Frankford tool + extra $550.00 is fine.

 

[bax]

I took several training courses taught by a guy who is a Glock fan. When I trot out a 1911, he gives me all kinds of grief, "If you're going to use a gun, at least use one that invented within the last hundred years". I have been using a Sinclair since the mid-90s. I expect the same soft of crap from this crowd about the Sinclair. I think it's a great tool with good feel and easy to use. I have primed tens of thousands of cases with it - by hand, one primer at a time. There may be better tools but it should be considered. By the way, 1911s are good pistols and I have a nice one but I shoot Glocks too.

 

[TheBoctor]

RCBS Automatic Priming Tool. Good feel, plenty of leverage, fast, $120. The CPS is nice but if I'm buying a $600 priming tool, i shouldn't have to dick with pick-up tubes and should just be able to dump sleeves of primers into a bin and it figures itself out.

 

[GMZ]

Check out the Primal Rights CPS.

They were in stock earlier today.

 

[Nics00ss]

I use the RCBS bench mounted primer tool. Works great! Can’t speak to any of the others.

 

[mtrmn]

I know you don't even want to consider this but I've always primed on the press for the last 38 yrs or so. RCBS or Dillon.

 

[Rutter]

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RCBS Automatic Priming Tool. Good feel, plenty of leverage, fast, $120. The CPS is nice but if I'm buying a $600 priming tool, i shouldn't have to dick with pick-up tubes and should just be able to dump sleeves of primers into a bin and it figures itself out.

I like the way that thing operates. Don’t have to run a second handle to load another primer. Wish it had a depth adjustment.

 

[AllenOne1]

What calibers are you loading, how many and for what purposes? I have inserted a lot of primers on the Hornady LnL progressive press with very few issues. If you are loading rifle for competition you may need the CPS from Primal Rights. Great company by the way.

 

[lightman]

I took several training courses taught by a guy who is a Glock fan. When I trot out a 1911, he gives me all kinds of grief, "If you're going to use a gun, at least use one that invented within the last hundred years". I have been using a Sinclair since the mid-90s. I expect the same soft of crap from this crowd about the Sinclair. I think it's a great tool with good feel and easy to use. I have primed tens of thousands of cases with it - by hand, one primer at a time. There may be better tools but it should be considered. By the way, 1911s are good pistols and I have a nice one but I shoot Glocks too.

I like my Sinclair tool too. But if the FA tool cramps your hands the Sinclair tool probably will too. I like my 1911's too!

 

[alamo5000]

I have been using a RCBS automatic bench top priming tool for several years. It works but there are several downsides to it. I recently bought a Forster priming tool that looks very promising and superior in many ways.

 

[Rutter]

I have been using a RCBS automatic bench top priming tool for several years. It works but there are several downsides to it. I recently bought a Forster priming tool that looks very promising and superior in many ways.

What do you not like about it. What do you like more about the Forster?

 

[alamo5000]

What do you not like about it. What do you like more about the Forster?

After using the RCBS auto tool for a long time already here are a couple of observations. (Not in order though)

1. The primer tubes will eventually bend/warp over time from the repeated flopping back and forth.
2. The primer seating ram is not compatible with all shell holders. I've had to dremmel out the lip on a few shell holders to keep the cup that holds the primer from hanging up on each other. And some shell holders, the hole is simply too small all together but this can be fixed with a bit of dremmel work.
3. The pick up process for primers is just as long (almost) as priming itself. In order to load the tubes you have to get the primers all oriented on a flat surface then pick them up one by one with the little plastic end of the tube making sure not to bounce the orientation tray in the process. If you bump it just a little you have to reorient a lot of your primers.
4. Sometimes that 'bounce' that happens from flopping back and forth will cause your primer to bounce out of the cup or become disoriented during the process.
5. The cups and the ram can become unscrewed (and do) which becomes a bit of a hassle because it can cause other types of malfunctions.​
6. Primers are 'stacked' so if one goes boom, it can cause a chain reaction. (chance of this is slim but still worth noting)​
7. I should add that at least for me I got a two sided clam shell primer orientation tray. You get the primers all anvil up then you put the lid on and flip them all over to be anvil down. (with the forster you don't need to do this at all)​

I haven't had much time behind the Forster but here are a few notable things that are better.

1. You don't need shell holders at all. It's super easy to adjust to whatever case you are using too using the jaws on the device.
2. The loading of the tubes is much easier. I bought a compatible primer loading tray which is a big deal. Orient your primers and then put the primer tube in the slot and simply dump the primers in. This is made possible because the 'tubes' are square and not round.
3. Loading the tubes takes a fraction of the time vs doing a one by one pickup. This is because they can simply slide in sideways from an anvil up orientation.
4. The primers are oriented anvil facing out so if one goes boom hopefully it's just that one.
5. The tube doesn't flop around causing the problems mentioned above. It's in a fixed location so they just drop into place.
6. The size of the unit and how it works makes it more 'mobile'. My RCBS one I have mounted to a QD plate for an inline mount. Previously I had it mounted to a board but it's a lot more fiddly. With the Forster I can mount it up and prime anywhere in the house (like while a football game is on or whatever). You can do that with both but the Forster one lends itself to do that much more easier.

At the end of the day the non reciprocating tube is better and most importantly the loading of the tube itself is done in a fraction of the time. The latter of the two saves more time than anything. Doing two reloads of 50 primers each can be done much faster than a single reload of 100 primers picked up one by one.

 

[Rutter]

After using the RCBS auto tool for a long time already here are a couple of observations. (Not in order though)

1. The primer tubes will eventually bend/warp over time from the repeated flopping back and forth.
2. The primer seating ram is not compatible with all shell holders. I've had to dremmel out the lip on a few shell holders to keep the cup that holds the primer from hanging up on each other. And some shell holders, the hole is simply too small all together but this can be fixed with a bit of dremmel work.
3. The pick up process for primers is just as long (almost) as priming itself. In order to load the tubes you have to get the primers all oriented on a flat surface then pick them up one by one with the little plastic end of the tube making sure not to bounce the orientation tray in the process. If you bump it just a little you have to reorient a lot of your primers.
4. Sometimes that 'bounce' that happens from flopping back and forth will cause your primer to bounce out of the cup or become disoriented during the process.
5. The cups and the ram can become unscrewed (and do) which becomes a bit of a hassle because it can cause other types of malfunctions.​
6. Primers are 'stacked' so if one goes boom, it can cause a chain reaction. (chance of this is slim but still worth noting)​

I haven't had much time behind the Forster but here are a few notable things that are better.

1. You don't need shell holders at all. It's super easy to adjust to whatever case you are using too using the jaws on the device.
2. The loading of the tubes is much easier. I bought a compatible primer loading tray which is a big deal. Orient your primers and then put the primer tube in the slot and simply dump the primers in. This is made possible because the 'tubes' are square and not round.
3. Loading the tubes takes a fraction of the time vs doing a one by one pickup. This is because they can simply slide in sideways.
4. The primers are oriented anvil facing out so if one goes boom hopefully it's just that one.
5. The tube doesn't flop around causing the problems mentioned above. It's in a fixed location so they just drop into place.
6. The size of the unit and how it works makes it more 'mobile'. My RCBS one I have mounted to a QD plate for an inline mount. Previously I had it mounted to a board but it's a lot more fiddly. With the Forster I can mount it up and prime anywhere in the house (like while a football game is on or whatever). You can do that with both but the Forster one lends itself to do that much more easier.

At the end of the day the non reciprocating tube is better and most importantly the loading of the tube itself is done in a fraction of the time (at least in theory). The latter of the two saves more time than anything. Doing two reloads of 50 primers each can be done much faster than a single reload of 100 primers picked up one by one.

I like the adjustable jaws. I load the GT at the moment and have to move the case around to get the primer pocket just right to prime. Going seriously look in to it.

 

[alamo5000]

I like the adjustable jaws. I load the GT at the moment and have to move the case around to get the primer pocket just right to prime. Going seriously look in to it.

To me all of the stuff mentioned above matters. But the loading of the tubes is done in about 1/4th of the time with way less hassle. No orienting then flipping over your primer tray or any of that stuff.

 

[CK1.0]

I honestly really like the Frankford tool and was just semi-joking earlier about closing a COC gripper lol, the tool is actually pretty easy to close, but I'm saying that as someone who only primes 100 cases at a time with it... even with good grip strength I can see how loading hundreds of rounds with it without a break would suck.

I wouldn't bother with the Primal Rights' tool though if you're willing to spend that type of cheddar, I'd just get a Dillon XL750. I have one for pistol, and while I do my rifle stuff on a single-stage, if I wanted to it wouldn't be too painful to press it into service for rifle duty. There are some guys out there making some really precision stuff using 750's too; a priming tool is just a priming tool.

 

[Rhed]

Been using RCBS bench priming tool (99$ with coupon) for awhile now. Told myself that I’ll upgrade to a CPS when my RCBS goes to shits. 5k plus primers later still going strong. Then recently upgraded it with Hollands Perfect Primer kit (140$) . Easy install, use, and repeatable results.

 

[Jrb572]

I like that. I was looking for something like that when I bought my CPS. I stopped using a hand primer due to my hands killing me after 50 primers.

 

[Heavyopp]

I still have an original, working, lee hand primimg tool — bought it back in the very early 90’s

That thing has seen 10’s of thousands of primers and still going strong — lubed with vaseline

A little hand fatigue but regulaly seat 400 to 500 large pistol primers in a priming session

 

[Hammerdown22]

Ihttps://www.hollandguns.com/32m7/parts-accessories/reloading-accessories.html

I like the way that thing operates. Don’t have to run a second handle to load another primer. Wish it had a depth adjustment.

 

[acudaowner]

I suggest the slave family line up to do the work some thick chain will help keep them in place and duct tape will keep em quiet while they work no whistling darn it . It keeps the steady rhythm while it works making me bullets or it gets the hose again .

 

[PatMiles]

I suggest the slave family line up to do the work some thick chain will help keep them in place and duct tape will keep em quiet while they work no whistling darn it . It keeps the steady rhythm while it works making me bullets or it gets the hose again .

Damn, you remind me...........................................of me!

 

[davethedog]

I really like my sinclair. I use it for my 300 PRC. I enjoy being able to feel the bottom out and the solid construction. No pot metal bullshit. I use a dillon 550 for my .308.

 

[acudaowner]

a hammer and a nail just do it very very carefully

 

[Grant77]

Been using RCBS bench priming tool (99$ with coupon) for awhile now. Told myself that I’ll upgrade to a CPS when my RCBS goes to shits. 5k plus primers later still going strong. Then recently upgraded it with Hollands Perfect Primer kit (140$) . Easy install, use, and repeatable results.

That’s a great bench setup

 

[Jgault]

I find the combination of the Frankford hand primer and a 16 year old son is perfect, my hands never hurt at all.

 

[rockdoc]

Rhed I have the same bench mounted primer and it’s great. Made sure I sourced just RCBS shellholders for it.

I like that Holland add on, must look around as to where I can get them here, or order from USA. Thanks.

 

[Rhed]

Rhed I have the same bench mounted primer and it’s great. Made sure I sourced just RCBS shellholders for it.

I like that Holland add on, must look around as to where I can get them here, or order from USA. Thanks.

H-PPS-AU Hollands Perfect Primer Seater (Adapter unit)

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It seems the price went up by 30$ more for the kit from when I got this kit a few years back. But still worth the price.