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Bighorn TL3 vs Impact 737R

Where is that binding point occurring with the fluting on the bolt head pin? At the rearward position at the mechanical ejector?

I’m not exactly sure of the specific point. I believe it is where the fluting intersected with the sides of the cross pin hole. That would be a good question for Ray. I’m just happy about it, mine certainly doesn’t bind as easily.
 
"To me the tempest is the the best 60° action and I miss the one I sold alot."

I've heard several times now, that people miss their tempest. That's what I have now and the only action I have any real experience with. What made you sell it?
 
"To me the tempest is the the best 60° action and I miss the one I sold alot."

I've heard several times now, that people miss their tempest. That's what I have now and the only action I have any real experience with. What made you sell it?

Impulsively reading comment on the TL3 being the smoothest action ever and drinking the "Dasher" coolaid.

Worst decision ever.
 
I’m not exactly sure of the specific point. I believe it is where the fluting intersected with the sides of the cross pin hole. That would be a good question for Ray. I’m just happy about it, mine certainly doesn’t bind as easily.

If that solved the issue the it's great but kinda would have been nice to figure that out before releasing the product.
 
yes we should move away from the 'feels' conversation.

and onto how they sound when cycling.

TL3: Like your electric model train going down the tracks, clicking and clacking so loud you can hear it across the house.

Surgeon: Like someone is banging a nail with a hammer, because only Neanderthals still use these

Defiance: Like two finely machined surfaces sliding against each other, making no noise... until dust gets in there and it stops moving.

Impact: Bolt lift is like someone dragging their fingernails across a chalk board, then it basically resembles a surgeon because that's really what it is

Curtis: Doesn't cycle, usually the mags are too high to allow the bolt to move.

Remington: Imagine dragging a piece of pipe across concrete, until the bolt handle snaps off.

Savage: Identical to a TL3, except with slightly better tolerances and more innovation.

Tempest: I've never actually been able to cycle one, the bolt lift is too heavy

Stiller: You can't actually hear it cycle because their owners are yelling "why the f*ck isn't this thing working" the entire time

Kelbly: They should just stick to f class

Borden: Similar to Stiller, you can't actually hear it cycling because their owners won't shut up about how awesome they are.

Tubb ATR: I don't think any suckers have actually bought one yet.

Accuracy Intl: The best sound ever. Just ask anyone on this forum. And if you don't believe it you are wrong and we will flame you.

Mausingfield: Imagine the national anthem played with a set of bagpipes and the drummer is banging on trashcan lids.
 
and onto how they sound when cycling.

TL3: Like your electric model train going down the tracks, clicking and clacking so loud you can hear it across the house.

Surgeon: Like someone is banging a nail with a hammer, because only Neanderthals still use these

Defiance: Like two finely machined surfaces sliding against each other, making no noise... until dust gets in there and it stops moving.

Impact: Bolt lift is like someone dragging their fingernails across a chalk board, then it basically resembles a surgeon because that's really what it is

Curtis: Doesn't cycle, usually the mags are too high to allow the bolt to move.

Remington: Imagine dragging a piece of pipe across concrete, until the bolt handle snaps off.

Savage: Identical to a TL3, except with slightly better tolerances and more innovation.

Tempest: I've never actually been able to cycle one, the bolt lift is too heavy

Stiller: You can't actually hear it cycle because their owners are yelling "why the f*ck isn't this thing working" the entire time

Kelbly: They should just stick to f class

Borden: Similar to Stiller, you can't actually hear it cycling because their owners won't shut up about how awesome they are.

Tubb ATR: I don't think any suckers have actually bought one yet.

Accuracy Intl: The best sound ever. Just ask anyone on this forum. And if you don't believe it you are wrong and we will flame you.

Mausingfield: Imagine the national anthem played with a set of bagpipes and the drummer is banging on trashcan lids.
Deadline: makes no noise cause it slides on its own
 
and onto how they sound when cycling.

TL3: Like your electric model train going down the tracks, clicking and clacking so loud you can hear it across the house.

Surgeon: Like someone is banging a nail with a hammer, because only Neanderthals still use these

Defiance: Like two finely machined surfaces sliding against each other, making no noise... until dust gets in there and it stops moving.

Impact: Bolt lift is like someone dragging their fingernails across a chalk board, then it basically resembles a surgeon because that's really what it is

Curtis: Doesn't cycle, usually the mags are too high to allow the bolt to move.

Remington: Imagine dragging a piece of pipe across concrete, until the bolt handle snaps off.

Savage: Identical to a TL3, except with slightly better tolerances and more innovation.

Tempest: I've never actually been able to cycle one, the bolt lift is too heavy

Stiller: You can't actually hear it cycle because their owners are yelling "why the f*ck isn't this thing working" the entire time

Kelbly: They should just stick to f class

Borden: Similar to Stiller, you can't actually hear it cycling because their owners won't shut up about how awesome they are.

Tubb ATR: I don't think any suckers have actually bought one yet.

Accuracy Intl: The best sound ever. Just ask anyone on this forum. And if you don't believe it you are wrong and we will flame you.

Mausingfield: Imagine the national anthem played with a set of bagpipes and the drummer is banging on trashcan lids.
I'm dying right now lmao. Your post wins haha.
 
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The fact that the TL3 even needs to be run a specific way or “provisions” not to bind is a joke.

Impact every day and twice on Sunday. Sorry to be blunt but if you feel each of them side by side you’ll understand that there is no comparison.
 
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The TL-3 is no different than any other action on the market. Given enough pressure in the wrong area it will bind. As will nearly any other action available. If you practice with your rifle, you should be all set.
 
The TL-3 is no different than any other action on the market. Given enough pressure in the wrong area it will bind. As will nearly any other action available. If you practice with your rifle, you should be all set.

While i agree that any action can be bound if you go off axis enough, i would still say it's more easily induced on a TL3 than any other custom i've used. It was nowhere near as forgiving as my Tempest. I haven't gotten my damn Impact barreled yet (PVA wait times) but just in hands and having handled a friends it's still harder to bind than a TL3. We've still got two of our three bighorns so i'm not necessarily knocking them, ease of use for a switch barrel rig is sort of unrivaled even at this point. That said it was bothersome enough for me on my TL3 that i switched to a 737R. I still love the Bighorn bolt lift for a 2-lug it's one of my favorites. I also love my brothers Origin.
 
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While i agree that any action can be bound if you go off axis enough, i would still say it's more easily induced on a TL3 than any other custom i've used. It was nowhere near as forgiving as my Tempest. I haven't gotten my damn Impact barreled yet (PVA wait times) but just in hands and having handled a friends it's still harder to bind than a TL3. We've still got two of our three bighorns so i'm not necessarily knocking them, ease of use for a switch barrel rig is sort of unrivaled even at this point. That said it was bothersome enough for me on my TL3 that i switched to a 737R. I still love the Bighorn bolt lift for a 2-lug it's one of my favorites. I also love my brothers Origin.

How long is the PVA wait time for a barrel? Wonder if you can cancel and just get one off the shelf from Altus, or order from Stuteville, Gradous, etc.
 
How long is the PVA wait time for a barrel? Wonder if you can cancel and just get one off the shelf from Altus, or order from Stuteville, Gradous, etc.

I don’t remember what the quote was but been waiting since November 24th and some are still waiting since August. I think we were told 3 months? I figured 6 months or more given my friends experiences. But it was hard to pass up price wise.
 
I don’t remember what the quote was but been waiting since November 24th and some are still waiting since August. I think we were told 3 months? I figured 6 months or more given my friends experiences. But it was hard to pass up price wise.

It's way cheaper than Gradous. You'd have been shooting it for 6 months and be ready for another one.
 
May I suggest Lone Peak Fuzion. I don't personally own one, but have spoke to guys who have, or have had both Impact and Fuzion. They prefer the Fuzion.

I've heard the same thing. Those that I know that have experience with both, including two top-10 PRS gunsmiths and shooters, prefer the Lone Peak Fuzion over the Impact.

Both good actions, but I find it very interesting how much little you hear of the Lone Peak versus the Impact. Either way, you know you are getting a good action.
 
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The problem is these are all approx. 1,500-ish or less. Any Snipershider that's tactical AF knows you can't even touch a decent piece of glass for under $2k and really more like $2.5k. So let's all hold off on purchasing any more of these beginner model actions.

Let our new mantra be, your action must cost as much as the glass. Wait until you see how slick the $3k actions will be. Oh, they'll be copies of a well worn pre-'64 Winny BTW. LMAO, have a great day!
 
Exactly what Sheldon said. You would have made him a barrel and had him burning up ammo in no time. 100% a compliment.
Exactly what Sheldon said. You would have made him a barrel and had him burning up ammo in no time. 100% a compliment.
I should stick to building Rifles because of my poor reading skills.
 
The problem is these are all approx. 1,500-ish or less. Any Snipershider that's tactical AF knows you can't even touch a decent piece of glass for under $2k and really more like $2.5k. So let's all hold off on purchasing any more of these beginner model actions.

Let our new mantra be, your action must cost as much as the glass. Wait until you see how slick the $3k actions will be. Oh, they'll be copies of a well worn pre-'64 Winny BTW. LMAO, have a great day!


I guarantee if the Impact had come out at $2400 instead of $1400 it would still be selling well. This is as Gucci a sport as any other which involves men comparing the badassery of their toys.

If you've got an accurate rifle that is reliable, just get out and shoot/compete/etc.!

Don't waste time at work posting on SH dreaming of being at the range right now (like me).
 
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