Rifle Scopes Budget scope BSA "Tactical Mildot" scope @ (Midway USA) review

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OK I know, I know. "Garbage, junk, don't waste your money, go without a scope until you can get something better, good doorstop"....

...In fact every BSA I've ever had broke in some fashion or another whether it was tracking, keeping zero, or staying clear enough to even use. Even the warranty replacements broke, and said to myself BSA - never again.

But I was still contemplating the "Tactical Midway model" for a few reasons, mainly because it so much resembles the Mueller target dot scope, and not hearing too many problems with either, even on springer air rifles that usually tear low dollar / expectation scopes in two within 20 shots. I PM'd several folks that I've seen it mounted on their rifles (Air, Rim, and Center fired rifles) and they responded with good comments. It was on sale for $109.00 for 2012 cyber Monday with free shipping, I figured I'd give it a try at least as a temporary optic. They list it for around $249.00, though it's eternally on sale for $150.00 on any given day.

The BSA Tactical Mildot has 6-24X magnification, 44mm obj, side focus, 1/4" adjustments @ 100Y, a focusable ocular, and a 30mm body. Included is a 3" sunshade, bikini style lens covers, and rings. The rings are complete garbage, of very low quality, and are so high, they are pretty much worthless and if buying this, plan on budgeting for new ones. With that said, that'll be all commented on concerning the rings.



It is a heavy scope coming in over 20oz, and beefy in all around girth, as compared in size to a $20.00 bill for scale. 15.25" inches long without the sunshade (18.25" with it). It is a second focal plane, and is actually true to Mildot ranging on 10X. All surfaces that offer adjusting has a nice texture to them for positive gripping. One thing that drew my attention is a curious fashion is that much like it's Mueller look alike, the tube seems to be independent of the main tube, as a seam is evident at the objective bell. Don't know why either manufacturers kept it like this.



If there is one feature I did appreciate, it's that the turrets are marked rather well, are not too big or too small, and the turret pillar is marked with stadia marks. The turrets are resettable to zero by removing the single T15 Torx screw (tool included), lifting the turret up to disengage the adjustment teeth, and lining up the 0 mark. Unlike other cheapie scopes I've had, there wasn't too much fooling around to get the 0 lined up. There is an O ring that helps to center the turret and keeping gunk out of the works. The adjustments feel and sound somewhat "positive" with just a little mush to it, and actually tracks rather well, and surprisingly returns to zero.

The side focus ranges from 10Y to infinity, with many well marked distances in between. The side focus knob operates smoothly, without feeling too loose or too sensitive. The small cap that covers the screw that holds it on is a little cheesy looking, but stays in place.



So the scope has "the look" and is surprisingly clear edge to edge up to about 20X were things start to grey up a little, but still not to the point of being unusable. No major distortions either, which was surprising. Eye relief seemed a little time consuming as when the power was adjusted to a higher setting, there was some eclipsing, when compensated for, the lower powers had eclipsed, so setting the relief was done on 12X, with just a little issue on 6X or 20X and above.

I haven't had it through too many temperature swings, so I can't talk to fogging up or resistance to the elements.

There are 60 "clicks" per revolution, 274 "clicks" from stop to stop in elevation (4 full turns + 34 clicks), 268 "clicks" (4 full turns + 28 clicks) in windage.

So to wrap it up it's not a Nikon, Vortex, Leopold, etc., but appears to be an acceptable scope in the $150.00 or under range as compared to others in the lower tier, even to a few in the middle tier. Looking through it side by side with a Sidewinder, the BSA actually had clearer glass and a sharper view while looking at targets from 100 to 400 yards and less observable imperfections showing in the glass when looking at a clear light bulb at point blank.

As said in the beginning, I don't really expect longevity out of it with regular use, but who knows. I've only had it on a .243 for approximately 250 rounds, back and forth between 100 and 400 yards - so far so good as a budget scope goes, with no real gripes about it as of yet.

So admittedly, I run a BSA at the present time and risk being flamed. It's a temporary optic that may surprisingly stay "temporary" for longer than I expected and hope not to use the lifetime warranty. I just thought to throw 2 cents in about it if anyone was actually curious about it. Though I wouldn't count on it for a serious hunt or serious competition, but for a casual plinking rifle or on a low budget build, it's really not too bad.

Please be gentle :D

 
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I know this is long past but I came across it recently and enjoyed your review-I feel it's spot on from my perspective.

I too have this scope mounted on two rifles-one of them is a tricked out Win mod 70 HBV in .308. This rifle's had at least 500 rounds through it with this scope and it keeps keepin' on with no problems.

Are the optics as good as my new Vortex?---hell no, but it costs a CRAPLOAD less and serves it's purpose pretty well-especially when I stay within 300 yards.

Good review and pics.
 
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BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14x 44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments Firs

I just purchased this one from Midway:

BSA Tactical Mil-Mil Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 4-14x 44mm Side Focus 1/10 Mil Adjustments First Focal MRAD Reticle.

This one has the Mil-Mil setup, that is mil-hash reticule and 1/10 mil clicks. It's a very nice scope, with clear, bright glass, crisp clicks, and I really like the reticule. It looks much clearer than it does on the Midway site. Seems like it will me very user friendly, assuming of course that the mechanism tracks accurately. I haven't had it to the range yet, but I'll post my impressions when I do get it there. It's got some really good reviews on the Midway site. I'm hopeful.

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Broke two BSA's on rimfires. Fell apart dialing in elevation. Glad that you are enjoying yours, I will never invest a single dollar in them again however.
 
By no means am I a hater,nor would I be a user of these...
Having said that, I think it's fantastic,that there are scopes out there that can fit most any budget and make people happy...
Glad you guys like em!

Well...I like mine "so far". Haven't been to the range with it yet. If it works well, zeroes okay, tracks well, doesn't burst into a cloud of powdered glass on the first shot - that's the first hurdle. If it's still working well after a thousand rounds, then I'll figure I got a winner. I know BSA has a horrible reputation, and judging from the many bad experiences with their scopes cited on this forum it's a well-deserved bad reputation. This one was me taking a chance based on some really good customer reviews of this particular BSA scope. A couple of reviewers mentioned how it doesn't appear to be a BSA-manufactured scope - one mentioned it was very much like a Falcon Menace. After purchasing it and seeing the scope for myself, it does appear to be of better quality than the usual BSA stuff that's out there. We'll see. I'm going to take it to the range either tomorrow or Thursday and zero it, do a box test or two, and hopefully see whether it's going to work or not.
Look, I'd love to have gotten a Vortex Viper PST, but I just can't swing $900+ right now. I was actually set to order a Falcon Menace from SWFA, but was told they are out of stock with no known arrival date. Then I found this one and figured I'd try it and hope it works out. If not - well, lesson learned. Midway has a very generous return policy, so I can always return it if it's defective.
 
Okay, you (that is, those of you who warned me of BSA's poor quality) may say "I told you so". I took the scope to the range today to zero it and conduct a box test. I zeroed the rifle very quickly and fired several shots in succession to be sure it was holding zero. So far so good. I then started the box test, only to find that I could only complete the upper right portion of it. It seems that with the scope zeroed, the windage knob is nearly all the way to the left of it's travel - that is, if I needed to correct left, I could only do so for about 2/10ths of a mil. The elevation knob was also not correct, being nearly at the bottom of it's travel. So I could adjust to the right of zero but not left, and I could adjust upwards from zero, but not below. So, it's going back for a refund and I'll have to set the cash aside until I can get enough for a good scope. Before this, I thought a second focal-plane reticule would suffice. After seeing first focal plane, I can't settle for anything less.
It's too bad. It really seemed like it was going the be a quality scope.
 
It seems that with the scope zeroed, the windage knob is nearly all the way to the left of it's travel - that is, if I needed to correct left, I could only do so for about 2/10ths of a mil. The elevation knob was also not correct, being nearly at the bottom of it's travel. So I could adjust to the right of zero but not left, and I could adjust upwards from zero, but not below.

What you described is 99% mount problem (base/rings) not the scope.
BTW even if you can only go up/right you can still do the box test ... go right, up, left, down ... there is your box.
 
What you described is 99% mount problem (base/rings) not the scope.

Hmm. I didn't think of that. I didn't notice anything when I mounted it. In fact, it was probably the smoothest of the 7 or 8 installations I've done. When I get some time this weekend I'll take a closer look and see if I can isolate the problem to the rings/mount. I doubt it's the mount, as I used it with the previous scope with no issues. That one was just an old Tasco 4-12x40 that I pulled off of a hunting rifle. It was a solid scope, but I wanted an optic more suited to long range shooting -that is, user-friendly turrets, reticle, etc. The mount is an EGW 20MOA. Rings are Burris 30mm Xtreme Tactical Picatinny Rings.

BTW even if you can only go up/right you can still do the box test ... go right, up, left, down ... there is your box.

Yep. I was able to do that part of it, and the scope performed perfectly for that. I measured and made small dots on paper where each of the shots should be hitting, and they were all within 1/8 - 1/4 inch of the mark at 100 yds. Just couldn't go left of zero or below zero.

Thanks for the honest report. Happy shooting!

I may not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but I'm honest. :cool:


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Better time spent on other stuff. you already proved it failed the box test. If you have mounted 8 other scopes before i doubt you screwed this one up.
 
Better time spent on other stuff. you already proved it failed the box test. If you have mounted 8 other scopes before i doubt you screwed this one up.

Well I couldn't wait til the weekend to find out, so I pulled the rifle out and gave it a good look. Turns out the mount and rings are fine. The scope is messed up. I know, big surprise. With the elevation and windage turrets centered in their travel, I took the bolt out and centered an object looking down the bore. Look through the scope and the same object appeared about 5 mils to the right of center and about 7 mils above center. Then I took the scope off of the rifle and held it up straight in front of my eye, looking into it from the front. I could easily see the insides of the scope were pointed to its left by quite a bit. I looked into the front of the cheapie Tasco I'd been using and it looked perfectly straight. I'm glad I saved the box and all of the packing materials. It's going back tomorrow.

Imagine that, another $150 turd letting someone down. Who woulda thunk it?


Quality and dependability doesn't come cheap. There are decent optics in almost every price range but they all give up something.
This model was actually a $250.00 turd, but I get your point. Lesson learned. The hard way, unfortunately.

I called SWFA today about their 3-15x42 scope. Unfortunately, they're out of stock. Sold the last one yesterday. Oh well, I guess I'll have time to save up for one. Thanks all for your advice.
 
No biggie. It is what life is for. It is fun to try things but others have been down this path... Myself included. I bought a Barska years ago from Ebay because it was such a great deal. Well this is even before I knew you could dope a scope and the rifle simply tipped over on carpet inside and it broke. $80 gone. I could buy a lot of powder for $80....... Live and learn. Now that you have done that, and I did what i did. Now we research BEFORE we buy. Right? See you around the forum while I go down the rabbit hole, reading. Learning. Living.