Building perfect brass sorting/processing/reloading space

[99mpower]

Completely setting up “new shop” from scratch

If you were doing it over, what would u do different?

Vacuum recommendations?
Compressor recommendations?
Power/outlets?
How many machines in a row can you handle by yourself?
How far apart?
How would u build the benches differently?

Free rein, starting from scratch. Hit me!!
I have (3) Automated 1050/2000s
Soon to be (2) commercial rollsizers with MA casefeeders
(2) 650s for small batch stuff

Full precision rifle bench that’s a completely different beast (Fx120 trickler, Henderson trimmer, Amp annealer, etc)

Pictures when I get better internet

 

[Darkside-Six]

Ther is a pretty cool machine out there. Think it’s called the “sortinator” or something like that. If I had the room in my room I’d grab one of those. Automatically sorts brass by headstamp.

 

[99mpower]

I don’t have sort by headstamp, but I do have a double ultimate sorter set up on a custom table

 

[99mpower]

Getting everything moved around, and all my stuff over there

Big process, but I’m trying

 

[rdinak]

Baller set up. Lots of space is a good thing.

I would have all the outlets at the height of the top of the bench. Large strips.

All led lighting.

Have one large compressor and run hoses overhead on reels.

One shop vac for each Bench.

If I had the counter space I would have 3 feet in between the Dillon 1050’s.

Floating granite area for the scale above the bench.

 

[99mpower]

Baller set up. Lots of space is a good thing.

I would have all the outlets at the height of the top of the bench. Large strips.

All led lighting.

Have one large compressor and run hoses overhead on reels.

One shop vac for each Bench.

If I had the counter space I would have 3 feet in between the Dillon 1050’s.

Floating granite area for the scale above the bench.

I like the granite idea for the precision scale

 

[PatMiles]

I would suggest that you put the safe with it's back against either of the short walls that are on the right or left side of the garage door. Where you have it positioned now can be seen by anybody driving by.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I would suggest that you put the safe with it's back against either of the short walls that are on the right or left side of the garage door. Where you have it positioned now can be seen by anybody driving by.

This.

And, taking it a step further, get window coverings up on all windows ASAP.

Assuming the garage door faces the street, only open it when moving things in or out.

Security, security, security.

 

[Threadcutter308]

Completely setting up “new shop” from scratch

If you were doing it over, what would u do different?

Vacuum recommendations?
Compressor recommendations?
Power/outlets?
How many machines in a row can you handle by yourself?
How far apart?
How would u build the benches differently?

Free rein, starting from scratch. Hit me!!
I have (3) Automated 1050/2000s
Soon to be (2) commercial rollsizers with MA casefeeders
(2) 650s for small batch stuff

Full precision rifle bench that’s a completely different beast (Fx120 trickler, Henderson trimmer, Amp annealer, etc)

Pictures when I get better internet

Put an air dryer on the discharge side of the air compressor and water seperators/filters/traps/regulators at each drop.

 

[99mpower]

Put an air dryer on the discharge side of the air compressor and water seperators/filters/traps/regulators at each drop.

Already planning on. Need to find a used 80gal 2 stage

 

[99mpower]

This.

And, taking it a step further, get window coverings up on all windows ASAP.

Assuming the garage door faces the street, only open it when moving things in or out.

Security, security, security.

Already have WiFi in there, electronic door lock for monitoring and ordering cameras for inside/ouside ASAP

 

[Threadcutter308]

Already planning on. Need to find a used 80gal 2 stage

230 Vac single phase, I assume ?

You might be money ahead by just buying new.....

 

[99mpower]

230 Vac single phase, I assume ?

You might be money ahead by just buying new.....

Yeah 230v single… instead of $1500-$1800, pretty easy to find an IR or Quincy in the 800-1200 range

Trying to be smart right now, can’t just blow $10k as much as I want to, getting this set up

 

[Threadcutter308]

Yeah 230v single… instead of $1500-$1800, pretty easy to find an IR or Quincy in the 800-1200 range

Trying to be smart right now, can’t just blow $10k as much as I want to, getting this set up

Makes sense. But, my point is that unless you get a good used one/are real lucky, you could end up putting more parts/$$ into a used one than what a new one costs. But, it sounds like you have a good handle on things.

 

[Seth W]

One of my desires is to have a comfortable chair that works with my bench height. If starting From scratch, I would condider buying one or more chairs, and building the bench to those, assuming the bench could also be stood at when needed.

 

[afd77]

One of may desires is to have a comfortable chair that works with my bench height. If starting From scratch, I would condider buying one or more chairs, and building the bench to those, assuming the bench could also be stood at when needed.

I agree having a chair/s at the correct height is a must. Mine were an afterthought, and I have 36" high benches, so I ended up buying a drafting chair. It's like a standard adjustable office chair but taller. Switched out the wheels with Amazon-purchased hard rubber wheels like what were on inline skates. Works perfect on concrete floors.

 

[99mpower]

I agree having a chair/s at the correct height is a must. Mine were an afterthought, and I have 36" high benches, so I ended up buying a drafting chair. It's like a standard adjustable office chair but taller. Switched out the wheels with Amazon-purchased hard rubber wheels like what were on inline skates. Works perfect on concrete floors.

I’ll have too many machines running to sit at one..

Benches will be waist height, more to accommodate certain containers on shelves

 

[99mpower]

Got started with first bench

Specifically wanted someone to have to go around door to get in.

 

[99mpower]

Makes sense. But, my point is that unless you get a good used one/are real lucky, you could end up putting more parts/$$ into a used one than what a new one costs. But, it sounds like you have a good handle on things.

Valid points for sure.. appreciate the input

 

[99mpower]

16’ of work bench going up!!

 

[Cascade Hemi]

Insulation, sheetrock, and HVAC.

 

[99mpower]

Insulation, sheetrock, and HVAC.

Not my building, or that’s where I would of started..

Unfortunately, not willing to pay that expense since it’s not my building, and I don’t know how long I’ll be in here

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Not my building, or that’s where I would of started..

Unfortunately, not willing to pay that expense since it’s not my building, and I don’t know how long I’ll be in here

How do you plan to load without AC?

 

[99mpower]

How do you plan to load without AC?

Not quite sure yet.. it’s cold here right now, so not terrible(30-40s) but as it gets warmer, definitely something I will need to look into (window units probably)

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

I have some pretty good ideas from doing my own new loading room. I think you have a little more room but if you take a look at the "Ultimate Reloading Room" thread you can see mine and many others with great ideas. I'd go check that out, and if you have any questions pm me. Always happy to help another loader.

Also, I don't know the climate you're in but you might be able to set up a window unit and just run it when loading if you had some insulation. Is there any way to work out the owner paying the material cost and you installing it for free as a way to get it done? You then would have a good workable space with minimal cost you couldn't take with you. Just a thought.

 

[99mpower]

I have some pretty good ideas from doing my own new loading room. I think you have a little more room but if you take a look at the "Ultimate Reloading Room" thread you can see mine and many others with great ideas. I'd go check that out, and if you have any questions pm me. Always happy to help another loader.

Also, I don't know the climate you're in but you might be able to set up a window unit and just run it when loading if you had some insulation. Is there any way to work out the owner paying the material cost and you installing it for free as a way to get it done? You then would have a good workable space with minimal cost you couldn't take with you. Just a thought.

Northern NC, near southern VA, by coast

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Northern NC, near southern VA, by coast

Ok well you don't have the kind of heat I do in the summer but it still gets hot and humid. Gonna need some way to heat and cool it and keep stuff from rusting. Some craft faced batt insulation and foaming up any cracks and protrusions would be enough with a window unit. I would think the owner would at least listen to taking the material cost off the rent a little every month and you do the labor and you could get that done.

 

[99mpower]

Ok well you don't have the kind of hear I do in the summer but it still gets hot and humid. Gonna head some way to heat and cool it and keep stuff from rusting. Some craft faced batt insulation and foaming up any cracks and protrusions would be enough with a window unit. I would think the owner would at least listen to taking the material cost off the rent a little every month and you do the labor and you could get that done.

What rent?!?!? Haha

Text owner and he’s interested in the insulation, after I get the extra wiring I want to get done

R13/R15 shouldn’t be too bad for entire place.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

What rent?!?!? Haha

Text owner and he’s interested in the insulation, after I get the extra wiring I want to get done

R13/R15 shouldn’t be too bad for entire place.

I just assumed since you said you didn't own the building.

2x4 wall the most you can get in it is R15 and I would do that. It's pretty small difference between 13 and 15. Getting the air sealing as good as you can is going to be the bigger deal. If you can get that done you have a really good space there.

 

[99mpower]

Insulation going up!!

Thoughts on what to do with the roof/ceiling?

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Same thing- if you put batt insulation in it, you can also get big netting/screening to staple in place but if it's not yours then craft faced batt insulation is as far as I'd go. Need to use R30 though at least.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Insulation going up!!

Thoughts on what to do with the roof/ceiling?



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I’d finish the ceiling out too and make it a usable space. That’s one thing the northerners got right.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

I’d finish the ceiling out too and make it a usable space. That’s one thing the northerners got right.

Well he'd have to put in actual floor joist vs the truss chords that is there now to do that and northerners have much bigger rafters for snow load, therefore, they can get insulation in them , without having to fur them out to get enough depth to have enough insulation so, that's usually why the difference.

 

[99mpower]

16’ workbench is done

And I got my rollsized running with new MA 16” casefeeder. This thing is a monster

Working on insulating the other wall right now, and getting one of the machines up today and running, processing 9mm

 

[99mpower]

Wall insulation complete

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

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Wall insulation complete

Looking good bud. You will have a nice space there when your done.

 

[Chris1972]

Mini-split was my single best purchase for my shop. It even has a dehumidifier mode for when I don’t need heat/cool. I am running double the needed btu for quick cool and heat cycles. Being a dc compressor it runs at the required speed vs cycling all the time. This also helps with humidity control.

Edit: You can also take it with you when you go if your careful with your installation.

 

[99mpower]

Mini-split was my single best purchase for my shop. It even has a dehumidifier mode for when I don’t need heat/cool. I am running double the needed btu for quick cool and heat cycles. Being a dc compressor it runs at the required speed vs cycling all the time. This also helps with humidity control.

Edit: You can also take it with you when you go if your careful with your installation.

That’s an idea I hadn’t thought about.

Removing mini-split when I leave

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

That’s an idea I hadn’t thought about.

Removing mini-split when I leave

Since you won't have sheet rock, you could even take the line sets with you but thata not a big deal either way. Love my split units.

 

[Seth W]

If it were me, I'd consider putting 1/2" OSB on all walls and ceiling. It's more durable than sheetrock, and painted white, can look decent. Another probably more expensive option that looks good is metal roofing. It comes in all sorts of colors, and really does look nice in these types of spaces. You will have to pay attention to moisture control, though.

 

[Chris1972]

Don’t forget the doors. I insulated mine after 2 years. Cost around $200 I think. Cut my electric bill by 35% roughly. My wife was less than proud of me since it took two years.

 

[99mpower]

I don’t pay for the power!! Hahaha

Shelves from previous setups have gone up. Fixing a light fixture and insulating the window behind the shelves before I start organizing stuff on the shelves and try to clear up floor space again

 

[Threadcutter308]

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I don’t pay for the power!! Hahaha

Shelves from previous setups have gone up. Fixing a light fixture and insulating the window behind the shelves before I start organizing stuff on the shelves and try to clear up floor space again

Damn Sam, yer Cruisin' !

 

[99mpower]

Damn Sam, yer Cruisin' !

We trying.. machines not running, no bueno

 

[99mpower]

playing sparky this afternoon.

More pictures tomorrow. Time to watch the game

 

[99mpower]

Air filtration and retractable tri-outlet reel, on a dedicated 20A circuit is all done, and overhead wood/rifle case storage complete

That’s all for today. Didn’t get as far as I wanted with wiring, but it’s positive progress

 

[ma smith]

I would recommen anyone storing powder like this to read ch7 of litz vol III

https://thescienceofaccuracy.com/product/modern-advancements-long-range-shooting-3/

 

[99mpower]

I would recommen anyone storing powder like this to read ch7 of litz vol III

https://thescienceofaccuracy.com/product/modern-advancements-long-range-shooting-3/

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For sure… I run the dehumidifier all the tjme

 

[99mpower]

I would recommen anyone storing powder like this to read ch7 of litz vol III

https://thescienceofaccuracy.com/product/modern-advancements-long-range-shooting-3/

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I know there are better ways to store it, but I can only do so much with what I have

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

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Air filtration and retractable tri-outlet reel, on a dedicated 20A circuit is all done, and overhead wood/rifle case storage complete

That’s all for today. Didn’t get as far as I wanted with wiring, but it’s positive progress

That's a good idea for rifle cases. I'm gonna do that in one side of my garage. I have 3 bays but only one doesn't have sheet rock on it so I can attach to the joist and put those blasted things up there. I mean, you gotta have em, but man do they take up a lot of room. The soft 3 main ones I use I can keep in my closer for guns but the hard cases need a new home and that's perfect. I don't know why I didn't think of that before, we used to store fishing rods that way... anywho, so glad you posted that!