I am certainly a beer budget kind of guy, but I do like quality gear. I've never even looked through a Hensoldt, but I have used and owned almost all of the budget minded optics as well as a Swarovski, Kahles, Premier, Valdada. The quality of the XTRIIs to me is the best I have seen, or used considering I have not ever spent more than $2100 on an optic. The two XTRIIs that I have certainly are better than the other available optics in the same price range and I feel that they provide exceptional value. Certainly there are better scopes at twice the price or more. I just don't see anything I need in any other scope given my use and price point. Quality, value and reliability is a package I prefer, and the XTRII has the package.
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Okay, it's a little over due, but here it is. I really don't have a lot to compare it to, so take this with a grain of salt. The nicest scope I've used before this was a Burris MTAC 4.5-14 that tops our Sheriff's Office sniper rifles. The MTACs with the Rem 700s, as cheap as they are, kept up with the AI guns with NForce scopes, out to 900 yards anyway. Ran out of elevation. They tracked well and returned to zero every time during a 50 hour basic sniper course last week. Glass is great too.
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...continuing
But this isn't a MTAC review. The XTRII is definitely beafy. It's maited to a Savage 10BA/LE VIA XTR Steel rings and a Valdata 20 moa steel base.
I only took it out twice, and I did have some return to Zero problems. Zeroed at 100 and took it out to 500. Came back to zero and it printed an inch to the right. Maybe it was the gun (hope not), maybe it was all the hardware settling into place, maybe it was the wind. Jury is out still. Haven't done the box drill yet, that should be more definitive.
To me, the glass doesn't seem as good as the MTAC or even the Leupold on my hunting gun. Less sharp and the eye box is less forgiving. And when you dial to max magnification, it seems to loose a lot of brightness too. I've had two of these scopes to compare so far and both were the same.
I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt for now, another thousand rounds should tell a better tail.
But this isn't a MTAC review. The XTRII is definitely beafy. It's maited to a Savage 10BA/LE VIA XTR Steel rings and a Valdata 20 moa steel base.
I only took it out twice, and I did have some return to Zero problems. Zeroed at 100 and took it out to 500. Came back to zero and it printed an inch to the right. Maybe it was the gun (hope not), maybe it was all the hardware settling into place, maybe it was the wind. Jury is out still. Haven't done the box drill yet, that should be more definitive.
To me, the glass doesn't seem as good as the MTAC or even the Leupold on my hunting gun. Less sharp and the eye box is less forgiving. And when you dial to max magnification, it seems to loose a lot of brightness too. I've had two of these scopes to compare so far and both were the same.
I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt for now, another thousand rounds should tell a better tail.
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We got some of the Burris XTR II 2-10x42mm, 5-25x50mm, and 8-40x50mm in stock. I have to say they look very good and the price is right.
Mike @ CSTACTICAL
Mike @ CSTACTICAL
These are finally starting to roll in! All of us here in the office have been impressed with the ones we've gotten in so far. For the money it cant be beat! Good clear glass, illumination, mechanical zerostop, FFP, 34mm tube, and did we mention the price? The ones we currently have in are:
1-5x24 XTR Ballistic 5.56 reticle (201000)
1-5x24 XTR Ballistic CQ Mil reticle (201001)
4-20x50 G2B Mil-Dot reticle (201040)
8-40x50 F Class MOA reticle (201080)
You can find them here
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1-5x24 XTR Ballistic 5.56 reticle (201000)
1-5x24 XTR Ballistic CQ Mil reticle (201001)
4-20x50 G2B Mil-Dot reticle (201040)
8-40x50 F Class MOA reticle (201080)
You can find them here
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I would like to Update this post with some personal observations for the Burris XTR IIs in the wild.
It's been a bit over a month since I paid a visit to Burris in Greeley and walked out the door with the XTR II line to use.
In that time I have put the 4-20x on a Colt LE901 as well I have the 5-25x on a Spartan Sniper's Hide Rifle, which was also loaned out during the SHC to a shooter from Germany.
Finally, during the last month I have seen at least 10 students with them in classes I have taught locally.
I can report the scopes are holding up well to real world use. Not just staring through windows and spinning the knobs freely but actual use on the range against targets at distance. This includes targets beyond 1000 yards. They are accurate, repeatable, and appear to be durable with not a single scope going down. (I cannot report the same about the Littleton CO offering, in fact one died by 10:30 this past Sunday.)
I think for the price point and what Burris was looking to accomplish they nailed it with these scopes. I am seeing and hearing nothing but positive reviews from the end users. I think the overall sight picture is better than equally compared scopes in that price range, I think these are feature rich and in the most common and useful power ranges one can want.
If you looking for a scope with similar features but don't want to spend over $2500 for it, the Burris is definitely a consideration.
It's been a bit over a month since I paid a visit to Burris in Greeley and walked out the door with the XTR II line to use.
In that time I have put the 4-20x on a Colt LE901 as well I have the 5-25x on a Spartan Sniper's Hide Rifle, which was also loaned out during the SHC to a shooter from Germany.
Finally, during the last month I have seen at least 10 students with them in classes I have taught locally.
I can report the scopes are holding up well to real world use. Not just staring through windows and spinning the knobs freely but actual use on the range against targets at distance. This includes targets beyond 1000 yards. They are accurate, repeatable, and appear to be durable with not a single scope going down. (I cannot report the same about the Littleton CO offering, in fact one died by 10:30 this past Sunday.)
I think for the price point and what Burris was looking to accomplish they nailed it with these scopes. I am seeing and hearing nothing but positive reviews from the end users. I think the overall sight picture is better than equally compared scopes in that price range, I think these are feature rich and in the most common and useful power ranges one can want.
If you looking for a scope with similar features but don't want to spend over $2500 for it, the Burris is definitely a consideration.
Thanks for the update Lowlight! I just purchased the 5-25x50 for my build sight unseen. I was looking at the viper pst and thought that was a pretty nice scope for the price and if the xtr ii wouldn't have been released I would have snatched up a pst. The good reviews I have read on this sight from the few people that have used them made the Burris an easy choice!
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Anyone heard any more on moa in the 5-25 category? .. Have an 8-40 on way but would love to get a 5-25 one in moa as well.. Are they going to go that route?...
I looked at these on your website trey and on the scope information below, they were listed as second focal plane. I didn't think they were produced in sfp but didn't check into it... So the ones you have are indeed ffp? Your prices seem pretty good..
ok guys. had a long range session yesterday with my new baby. I was going through a break in with her as well as the scope. the clicks from behind the gun vs just out of the box does make a difference. from the box they felt a little mushy, when its locked down to something. I would call it soft but tracks perfectly. a friend of mine had his pst with him on a 308 and we compared in 11:00 sun with a little mirage floating. he wanted to trade and pay me 300. 
so far I am very satisfied with it. it does seem to be a litte touchy on 25x. but not enough to talk crap about. we were shooting out to 500 and I kept it between 15-20x. heres the big question, if I had to buy it again after using it in the real world........ yes.
I just got my 5-25 out to the range first time to 300 and 600 yards. conditions were crappy - fog, followed by an insane mirage off the wet grass. I am just a beginner - so this is just IMHO, but even in these conditions, scope performed flawlessly. I was able to put under 1 MOA groups at 300 yards with residual fog and at 600 yards with heavy mirage! here is a picture of 2 groups at 300 yards - it was so foggy that I could not see the hits, so had to "fly by the seat of my pants" - drove out to the pits every 10 or so rounds to see the results so I could hold for wind. one note - I need to do the tracking test and figure out the real value of the click - I was constantly over the value from Strelok app I started using recently - at 300 yards - the app showed 1.4 mrad up from 100 yards zero, but I had to dial in 1.6 mrad, and at 600 it showed 4.6, but I ended with 5.0 mrad up
here is the idea of how foggy it was
at 600 yards target, from 15 hits, 13 were within 6" square with 2 flyers that took it to 8"
here is the idea of how foggy it was
at 600 yards target, from 15 hits, 13 were within 6" square with 2 flyers that took it to 8"
My 8x40 had it's first match on Sunday under some brutally hot conditions and it performed flawlessly. I already have enough confidence with it to dial wind mid string, which is usually way out of my comfort zone. Having high magnification and FFP for a match rifle is the cat's meow. The mirage was at one of those levels where you could see it with your naked eye and the scoring rings were hard to make out, so being able to use the hash marks for corrections worked out great. The heat index on the uncovered range was somewhere around 108 before I pulled the trigger for the first time so needless to say there were some very sweaty hands doing the knob twisting. not once, even with hearing protection in, did I ever question how many clicks I moved. I have no problems at all with the feedback. I should have spent some time comparing the glass to other brands, but unfortunately my brain was just on "Get me to the swimming pool mode" after being baked in that heat.
The 1-5x24 is SFP. The 1.5-8x28 is both focal planes and everything from there on up is FFP
I initially wanted one of the new Steiner offerings, but these are looking awful good and the lackluster response from Steiner has me concerned.
I really like the 4-20 mag range.
While I know that glass is very subjective, I would really like some feedback on clarity and resolution.
I understand that they can't compete with the upper end of the spectrum, but I would like to know how they compete with the scopes in their price range (bushnell, vortex and sightron)
I really like the 4-20 mag range.
While I know that glass is very subjective, I would really like some feedback on clarity and resolution.
I understand that they can't compete with the upper end of the spectrum, but I would like to know how they compete with the scopes in their price range (bushnell, vortex and sightron)
The glass is about equal to a PST from Vortex, I think the bigger scopes that Burris has produced gives you a better sight picture, (Bigger tube and Obj) but they are in line with each other. The Burris is definitely in line with its price point glass wise, but honestly I have yet to see someone miss during any kind of normal target shooting to debate glass from a "looks" standpoint. It's only when you go into specialized situations, NV, LowLight Hunting, etc do you find any real differences that can be quantified by eye. If people cant see something it's usually due to magnification or let's say mirage.
Somewhat disappointing as of the two PST's I looked through, one was unusable and couldn't discern .30 cal holes at two hundred yards, the other appeared much better than that, but then the bar had been set so low, it wasn't hard to surpass it. My Falcon Menace was clearer, sharper with better contrast and resolution than both.
I am going to surmise that these are probably equivalent to the sightron S Tac. Usable, but not note worthy.
Do us a solid Mike and run that puppy through it's paces.
I'd like to see a good write up on this model, plus some pics mounted on a rifle to get an idea of size etc...
Can you tell me what rings you're running? Very nice rig by the way!View attachment 41729View attachment 41730ok guys. had a long range session yesterday with my new baby. I was going through a break in with her as well as the scope. the clicks from behind the gun vs just out of the box does make a difference. from the box they felt a little mushy, when its locked down to something. I would call it soft but tracks perfectly. a friend of mine had his pst with him on a 308 and we compared in 11:00 sun with a little mirage floating. he wanted to trade and pay me 300.
nightforce ultra-light med height. 6 bolt. thanks. I need to do some load development. I went to a local shop who had retumbo and when I got there I found out that Tim McWhorter had been there the day before and bought all 18lbs they had. I did manage to get a box of 210berg hunting bullets as a consolation prize. and admin, im sorry for the planet linc below.
Nightforce Ring Set - 34mm - Ultralite FREE S&H A210, A214, A208, A223, A224, A226, A216, A227. NightForce Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.
I did manage to get a box of 210berg hunting bullets as a consolation prize. and admin, im sorry for the planet linc below. Nightforce Ring Set - 34mm - Ultralite FREE S&H A210, A214, A208, A223, A224, A226, A216, A227. NightForce Riflescope Mounts, Rings & Bases.
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I shot my 5x25 side by side to a pst on a 700 tactical 308. my friend wanted to trade me +$300. no deal!!! clarity is very good. I personally prefer it over my sightron on my 25-06. Ive never been on the bushnell train, so I cant tell you about it. long story short, I love my new scope, and if I had the money I would buy another one!
Got a 8-40 in Friday, got rings for it in today..
First impressions are good.. View at 40x is actually much better than I expected for a thousand dollar scope!..
Turrets seem very functional just playing with it.. But I will take some time over the holiday to take some pics and throw some info back on here
First impressions are good.. View at 40x is actually much better than I expected for a thousand dollar scope!..
Turrets seem very functional just playing with it.. But I will take some time over the holiday to take some pics and throw some info back on here
fdkay, here is a photo for you. I have the 4-20 on my .260. The rifle is a Remington 700 in an AICS with a 21" barrel and a TBAC suppressor. The shooter in the photo is my 12 year old, so he makes the rifle look a bit bigger. The scope is also mounted in a Warne One Piece for the AR platform...as I could not wait to shoot it and did not have the rings I wanted to use yet.
The glass is certainly better than the glass on the PSTs and Bushnells I owned.
The glass is certainly better than the glass on the PSTs and Bushnells I owned.
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That is good to hear, and I like the looks of the scope. Glad they didn't go extra large like some of the "tactical" scopes.
I'm seriously torn between this and the new steiner offering, though there is a price difference, they are not that far apart from each other.
I just get a better feeling when I call Burris and someone actually answers or returns your call.
Just my opinion, but unless you plan a lot of long range shooting in dusk/dark, you will never see a performance difference between the XTRII and the Steiner at the same magnification. Maybe a tad when you get to the edges, but I don't spend much time looking at the edges of the sight picture either. Shooting the PST 6-24 on the same rifle over a few years, I literally took it off and sold it the day after I shot my Pronghorn at 680 yards. It was terrible with snow on the ground and the edges were hazy. I was going to just put a MTAC 6.5-20 on it since my .308 wore an MTAC which I preferred. When the XTRII came out, I had to pinch myself to make sure I was not dreaming. Either way, I know you will be happy with whichever one you choose.
I've had the 3-15 for a couple weeks now, but haven't been able to test it out much yet. So far it seems to be a good buy at it's price point. Hope to get out and use it more soon.
Bought a Kahles K624i AMR several months ago, and like it so much that I'm trying to sell a rifle or two in order to buy another one for my other main comp rifle. But for my tactical rifles that don't see much match use, I'm really looking forward to getting the opportunity to look through one of the XTR II 5-25 models - one of the guys in the club I shoot with most often finally got one a week or so ago. Mainly want to compare it to the glass in my Bushy 3.5-21x50 GZA, then make a decision whether to get one of the XTR IIs, or go with another Bushnell. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like the Bushnell's glass is maybe a cut above what Burris is using in these scopes, but if there's not a lot of difference, I'd like to try the Burris.
All shapes and sizes of the XRTII's are in stock ready to ship. If you're looking for one, we'v got it.
Seems like the 5-25x50 version is scarce for some reason. I see a bunch of 4-20 and 8-40 but not the 5-25
I'm about to get the 8-40. I was sure it would be hard to find but its pretty plentiful. I call one retailer and he didn't even know they came out with that power and said it was no problem making the other for me. I got a $225 gift card and bonus so its a free scope
Know one thing, there is three 6x24 XTR's that I know and they are great, not dogcrap. My two friends love theirs. Been doing 500, 1,000 yards and even a one mile shoots. By the way my turrets aren't mushy.
Scott at Liberty came through for me on my long awaited 4-20! Got it mounted up and looking forward putting it through its paces. I am quite pleased at the quality for the price and feel that it is a good value.
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