Burris XTR Pro 🇺🇸
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Would you guesstimate a couple weeks or longer? Really really trying to hold off, but some of these Gen 2 Razors in the Buy-Sell-Trade are tempting me.
If they came out with a shorty 18x with tool less turret that would rival the K318i
Their dealer network sucks. I had trouble buying the xtr3 comp because no one sold them. They had plenty of the hunting scopes, but no tactical scopes. It would be nice if they partnered with one of the hide vendors to get these pushed out faster.
That’s a major disappointment on the moa part. I just don’t get why ya wouldn’t offer both platforms. Oh well… lots of other good options. Thought maybe I would own my 1st Burris.
Wait 1/4 mil, don't you be throw-in fractions on ma decimals. 
I am aware of this. What I'm trying to say is that there is plenty of people in this thread that are ready to spend money and not one dealer is in here saying they have a shipment coming or even taking names for a pre-order. In the vortex gen3 thread there was dealers immediately taking names for pre-order. It would be nice to have that kind of support with Burris.
Don't remember seeing anyone post this yet. Here is the launch video and behind the scenes Factory tour from Burris:
Thanks for the tip. Looks like my XTR III suddenly has an issue, going to have to send in the Burris
My first tac scope was an XTR2. It was an early model with 8 mil turrets. I dropped it after slipping on some ice and it wouldn't hold zero. When I sent it in I asked them if they could do something about the poor IQ. When it came back I was shooting with a buddy who had an Razor g2. We were shooting through some nasty mirage. I could make out the targets a lot better than he could. He looked through my scope and got pissed and sent his RG2 back to Vortex. They said it was within spec. (I am a Vortex fanboy and currently run an AMG for just about everything).
I also bought a 5-30xtr3 as a backup scope and my wife ended up adopting it. I have had it next to my AMG several times. It is very close. The AMG has better resolution, but the XTR3 has better contrast. If the image is contrasty I can see more with the AMG. If everything is the same damn color I can see more with the XTR3 because of the contrast. They are that close.
I have not compared my xtr3 to much but I have compared the AMG to a 5-25 ATACR, G2 Razor, K624i, Bushnell DMR2, and a TT 5-25 lol. Obviously the TT blew it away. The Bushnell, surprisingly, wasn't terrible and K624i wasn't bad either. The rest were annoyingly worse in the image department. Given how close the AMG is to the XTR3, I'm betting the XTR3 holds it's own in comparison to other $2k optics.
@Birddog6424 can you speak to the reticle thickness? My biggest gripe for the XTR III was the I found the reticle too thin and hard to read below 15x. I prefer to run the scope in the 10-12x range ESPECIALLY if I'm shooting from barricades and really struggled with that on the XTR III. I really liked everything else about that scope at its price, felt like it was a home run and a great scope if you were gonna mainly use it above 15x.
Thanks for the tip. I sent him a message. Hopefully I can get on board with him.
That pro model is a lot of scope for the money, and built and designed in the USA. Impressive factory as well. Love to see one and play with it little.
Won't matter, they are never in stock on EV anyway. Been waiting 6 months for a XTR3 5-30 with SCR2 to come into stock and still none.
Big fail
No go for me.
I get that it's less cluttered. It's also less intuitive.
With stadia every .2 mils, it's fast as fuck to break it down into .1 intervals. Now I have to fucking guess where .4 mil is.
Good idea. I thought the SCR-Q was the only option. I see now that it comes with the SCR 2 which suits me fine.
I have an SCR on a Steiner and the tree is all it needs.
Scr only has halves so the scr-q has the same thing but with finer increments. I'll be changing from scr2 to scrq. I never need to make .1mil wind corrections. In fact .2 is rarely ever need so having slightly larger corrections on the reticle is only a good thing and will make me more bold with my wind corrections while counting faster and having a more open reticle
I'm actually impressed with what I see so far. It fixes all the things I don't like about my XTR3.
I apologize in advance. This is going to sound negative. But I’m seriously asking.
What scenario is a tool less elevation but not a tool less windage good? If I have to pull out tools for one……it’s moot.
I like the tool less design they used for the elevation. But questioning the utility of it if you still need tools for the other.
What scenario is a tool less elevation but not a tool less windage good? If I have to pull out tools for one……it’s moot.
I like the tool less design they used for the elevation. But questioning the utility of it if you still need tools for the other.
If they are never are in stock at EV is there another option for their mil/leo pricing?
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There’s a fairly large movement in popularity of dialing windage for as much as possible.
Hence things like the JTAC non tree reticle.
But just curious the design intent. Looks like good product overall.
That’s a good point.
This game is very region specific. From everything like Wiebad vs AG, to match strategies and anywhere in between.
Which is why I took issue with one area of the country complaining about how another area runs things. It’s so different region to region, that’s just not realistic currently.
I'd agree it's probably a region thing. Where I shoot I never dial wind. It's rare to aim at a plate and it varies way to much to bother dialing. It would do my head in dialing .8 right in and then having to change to .4 left and having to hold 1.2 left to account for the difference. I'd just get lost so I never dial for wind. As a result I rarely ever zero my wind turret
Not to derail thread. But holding and dialing is applied the same way on the clock.
Don’t thing “I dialed left and now it’s right” Just make adjustments like you normally would.
As far as regions with more or less wind, that’s just justification for preference. A very large percentage of the top shooters are dialing wind and they are doing it all over the country. It’s really not that hard and has many positive reasons behind it.
But it’s taboo. Like shooting at high power. The best shooter in the country can go on a forum and say “I run at 27x as much as possible and I dial 90% of my wind.”
And they would be flamed to no end.
Preferences are fine. But there’s no part of country that’s so complicated with wind you can dial in many or most situations if you want.
It's not just holding left or right when you change from a left wind to a right wind and have wind dialed on you have to aim further for the wind you have dialed on unless your going to dial on the clock. But yes it's is just a personal preference. Personally I'm stupid and adding 1 more thing to think about is outside my brain capacity on the clock
Sure it is.
Wind is 6mph left and 500yd. Dial .5 left
Wind switches to right and it’s now 12mph. and you’d normally be holding 1 mil right, now it’s just .5 right. But you don’t do that math on the clock just like you wouldn’t if you held .5 left, it switched and then you hold 1.0 right.
Shouldn’t be doing math on clock or thinking. Just adjusting based on what you see.
And except for rare situations or the very top wind callers, no one is usually going to see such a wind change and recognize it before they break a shot. We don’t have time like other disciplines to watch wind. It’s normally after you take a shot and see where you missed. Which is zero thinking or math. Just using a ruler.
Going into stages thinking and such like this, regardless of strategy is why many have so much issues. Thinking about wrong stuff at wrong time.
Like everything, one should strive to be well rounded. Even if someone has a preference for dialing, they should be able to seamlessly swap over to holding on command.
Or vice versa. If you hold wind, you should be able to dial when situation calls.
Search back posts for more detailed info re: comparisons. Mine is the 5-50X, and the glass, to me, is a touch better than everything else in the ~2K class, but it doesn't matter. Glass is so close in the segment that the FOV and SCR2 reticle of the XTR3 trumped everything else. I bought a 2nd XTR3 and sold my ZCO (which is much better, of course, but read back posts to see detail). Will be buying 2 XTR Pro's as soon as someone has inventory. Naked rifles been waiting since Dec for them.
Thanks! I messaged @TheHebrewHammer yesterday around 1pm and still haven’t received a reply to the question. Know of anywhere else?
Sorry, I was away from my computer yesterday, I'll messaging back everyone today.
Doug at Camaraland carried them previously. He posted he will be at Shot Show this week. I bet we will hear from the vendors during the week and after the week is over on who is carrying what. SportOptics also carried the XTR3’s when they came out a few years ago.
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Can this be answered already lol. Seen a few people ask and no answer. EV is nice but when stuff is out of stock it seems like its out of stock for quite a while.
I would agree depending on the situation. In this situation the scopes are made and ready to ship. If you are willing to take the risk of being an early adopter, I don't see the problem. Now, if they announced and then had to go to production, I wouldn't want to pre-order.
I'm taking exception to this comment as well. You and DTros have been flapping your gums about this scope since at least October of last year. In a since deleted post, you even claimed a Thanksgiving release date. If they didn't really want anyone to know, why did they tell you two? And why have you been hyping it as the second coming of christ?
None of this really matters though, I have spoken for one.
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