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Re: Bushmaster ACR?
for 1,700 bucks. Maybe. Doesn't seem to be too outrageously priced. Right now it's kinda hard to beat a good ol AR with all of the options and accessories available for customization.
Looks kinda neat tho.
for 1,700 bucks. Maybe. Doesn't seem to be too outrageously priced. Right now it's kinda hard to beat a good ol AR with all of the options and accessories available for customization.
Looks kinda neat tho.
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Just checked their site, they say it's slated for release in the first half of 2010. Let's see if this holds true. I will most likely be getting one when and if they do come out.
Just checked their site, they say it's slated for release in the first half of 2010. Let's see if this holds true. I will most likely be getting one when and if they do come out.
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http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1441074#Post1441074
It's a nice platform. Hopefully production maintains the same high standards as the protos.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1441074#Post1441074
It's a nice platform. Hopefully production maintains the same high standards as the protos.
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For $1700 I'd buy one to try it out. But they'll probably end up like the SCAR though at retarded prices.
For $1700 I'd buy one to try it out. But they'll probably end up like the SCAR though at retarded prices.
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good luck, this thing has been going on for at least 3 maybe 4 years now. I would snatch one up in a heartbeat but bushy is dragging thier feet on it. It was originally the Masada, but magpul sold the rights.
good luck, this thing has been going on for at least 3 maybe 4 years now. I would snatch one up in a heartbeat but bushy is dragging thier feet on it. It was originally the Masada, but magpul sold the rights.
Re: Bushmaster ACR?
I am interested in one, depending on price.
Darin Reiss
FFL/SOT in Haysville, KS
I am interested in one, depending on price.
Darin Reiss
FFL/SOT in Haysville, KS
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I was all gung-ho about buying one until the release date kept getting pushed back by leaps and bounds. Now it also looks like the price has been pushed around $500 north of where it was originally projected.
From what I understand Bushmaster did buy the manufacturing rights but they were obligated to release a certain number by a certain date or face penalties or forfeit the contract. (Of course I read that on the web so I just know that's gotta be true.) Then the great Obama gun scare began and Bushmaster didn't want to devote any resources to a new platform since they were working overtime to shovel out as many AR's as was humanly possible.
Parent company Cerebus knows a good thing when they see it so they've put Remington's manufacturing might behind the project so that hopefully this weapon will finally see the light of day.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/acr.htm
Given the years of delays this whole project reminds me of the almighty Shrike fiasco. The platform looks great but all I've seen are a coveted few actual rifles. If one finally hits my dealers shelves at a reasonable price I'll buy it, but I'm not holding my breath.
I was all gung-ho about buying one until the release date kept getting pushed back by leaps and bounds. Now it also looks like the price has been pushed around $500 north of where it was originally projected.
From what I understand Bushmaster did buy the manufacturing rights but they were obligated to release a certain number by a certain date or face penalties or forfeit the contract. (Of course I read that on the web so I just know that's gotta be true.) Then the great Obama gun scare began and Bushmaster didn't want to devote any resources to a new platform since they were working overtime to shovel out as many AR's as was humanly possible.
Parent company Cerebus knows a good thing when they see it so they've put Remington's manufacturing might behind the project so that hopefully this weapon will finally see the light of day.
http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/acr.htm
Given the years of delays this whole project reminds me of the almighty Shrike fiasco. The platform looks great but all I've seen are a coveted few actual rifles. If one finally hits my dealers shelves at a reasonable price I'll buy it, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I have had hands on expericence with the ACR and after playing with it I can def say that I will be picking one up when they are released. I was very impressed with the quality of the Bushmaster/Remington over the FN Scar. As far as the wait time goes, I do not mind. I would rather them take their time and get everything right the first time than rushing it out the door and receiving a gun that is multi colored and might have mechanical issues.
I have had hands on expericence with the ACR and after playing with it I can def say that I will be picking one up when they are released. I was very impressed with the quality of the Bushmaster/Remington over the FN Scar. As far as the wait time goes, I do not mind. I would rather them take their time and get everything right the first time than rushing it out the door and receiving a gun that is multi colored and might have mechanical issues.
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I will buy one when they come out but I night wait until the price is reasonable.
I will buy one when they come out but I night wait until the price is reasonable.
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Bought an XCR, passed on the SCAR, will buy an ACR(provided good reviews from those I trust when available). 4th letter might be bad luck!
Bought an XCR, passed on the SCAR, will buy an ACR(provided good reviews from those I trust when available). 4th letter might be bad luck!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badkarma85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had hands on expericence with the ACR and after playing with it I can def say that I will be picking one up when they are released. I was very impressed with the quality of the Bushmaster/Remington over the FN Scar. As far as the wait time goes, I do not mind. I would rather them take their time and get everything right the first time than rushing it out the door and receiving a gun that is multi colored and might have mechanical issues.</div></div>
I'm with you on that, that's why bushy's version of the LAR-8 sucked. Took them dumping it and RRA redesigning the bolt to get it right, so let's not go down that path with the masada!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: badkarma85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have had hands on expericence with the ACR and after playing with it I can def say that I will be picking one up when they are released. I was very impressed with the quality of the Bushmaster/Remington over the FN Scar. As far as the wait time goes, I do not mind. I would rather them take their time and get everything right the first time than rushing it out the door and receiving a gun that is multi colored and might have mechanical issues.</div></div>
I'm with you on that, that's why bushy's version of the LAR-8 sucked. Took them dumping it and RRA redesigning the bolt to get it right, so let's not go down that path with the masada!
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So let me get this right. Bushmaster is or isn't in the drivers seat on this anymore? Where does Remington fit in? Are we going to civilian versions before the second coming or what?
I agree with you guys, I'm going to wait and see what it looks like on the shelf before I go crazy..
So let me get this right. Bushmaster is or isn't in the drivers seat on this anymore? Where does Remington fit in? Are we going to civilian versions before the second coming or what?
I agree with you guys, I'm going to wait and see what it looks like on the shelf before I go crazy..
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Bushy, Remington, and DPMS are all owned by Cerebus Capital Management, so it's all going to be the same shit with a different logo.
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. Remmy has alot going on, but they have a massive facility at their disposal, compared to the other corporate brands in their sphere (DPMS had like 40 people last I knew, lol) so effectively it just became "someone else's department" to meet demand. I do hope we see the civy version in 2010 as promised. Remmy has made quite a move to black rifles as "hunting" items, wearing some mossy oak schemes on them. So maybe we will see the masada covered in oak leaves when it goes civy (Please, God, NO!).
Bushy, Remington, and DPMS are all owned by Cerebus Capital Management, so it's all going to be the same shit with a different logo.
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. Remmy has alot going on, but they have a massive facility at their disposal, compared to the other corporate brands in their sphere (DPMS had like 40 people last I knew, lol) so effectively it just became "someone else's department" to meet demand. I do hope we see the civy version in 2010 as promised. Remmy has made quite a move to black rifles as "hunting" items, wearing some mossy oak schemes on them. So maybe we will see the masada covered in oak leaves when it goes civy (Please, God, NO!).
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remmy has made quite a move to black rifles as "hunting" items, wearing some mossy oak schemes on them. So maybe we will see the masada covered in oak leaves when it goes civy (Please, God, NO!).</div></div>
What a disappointment that would be, lol.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remmy has made quite a move to black rifles as "hunting" items, wearing some mossy oak schemes on them. So maybe we will see the masada covered in oak leaves when it goes civy (Please, God, NO!).</div></div>
What a disappointment that would be, lol.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hickman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what Duracoat is for
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C'est vrai, mon ami. I'd take it however I can get it, I just hope they don't wimp it out too much. Besides, I'd have to paint a black one FDE anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. I just hate leafy camos.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hickman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is what Duracoat is for
</div></div> C'est vrai, mon ami. I'd take it however I can get it, I just hope they don't wimp it out too much. Besides, I'd have to paint a black one FDE anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter. I just hate leafy camos.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. </div></div>
This isn't 6 months ago...
Companies nowadays can't give away black rifles let alone sell them.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. </div></div>
This isn't 6 months ago...
Companies nowadays can't give away black rifles let alone sell them.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickeness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. </div></div>
This isn't 6 months ago...
Companies nowadays can't give away black rifles let alone sell them. </div></div>
That is the most fact filled line in this thread.
ARs are dead sellers right now.
When CDNN is selling at blowout prices you know the bubble has burst.
CP
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sickeness</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bushy is up to their eyeballs in black rifle orders i'm sure, they all are. </div></div>
This isn't 6 months ago...
Companies nowadays can't give away black rifles let alone sell them. </div></div>
That is the most fact filled line in this thread.
ARs are dead sellers right now.
When CDNN is selling at blowout prices you know the bubble has burst.
CP
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gee thats funny, someone should tell that to the shops around here. You wouldn't know it by whats in stock and by the prices.
Also might wanna mention that to the parts company (big player, but I won't rat them out) that just told me 18-20 WEEKS out on an m4 upper.
I'll believe it when I see it.
gee thats funny, someone should tell that to the shops around here. You wouldn't know it by whats in stock and by the prices.
Also might wanna mention that to the parts company (big player, but I won't rat them out) that just told me 18-20 WEEKS out on an m4 upper.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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the elusive Big Foot, lol...the price keeps climbing on every new release update wtf
the elusive Big Foot, lol...the price keeps climbing on every new release update wtf
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AyeGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will Remington and Bushmaster both be producing the ACR? Same model? </div></div>
Bushmaster is responsible for public.
Remington for military/LE
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AyeGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will Remington and Bushmaster both be producing the ACR? Same model? </div></div>
Bushmaster is responsible for public.
Remington for military/LE
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Why did you like it so much?
I've shot/used both the SCAR and the ACR, and have very little love for the ACR. Most judge things, guns especially, on how they look or how "cool" they are, and on nothing to do with how they shoot.
Why did you like it so much?
I've shot/used both the SCAR and the ACR, and have very little love for the ACR. Most judge things, guns especially, on how they look or how "cool" they are, and on nothing to do with how they shoot.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vereor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did you like it so much?
I've shot/used both the SCAR and the ACR, and have very little love for the ACR. Most judge things, guns especially, on how they look or how "cool" they are, and on nothing to do with how they shoot. </div></div>
Agreed. But like I mentioned, I have had plenty of time to compare both rifles and I favor the ACR. At the end of the day its like buying a BMW or Mercedes. Both are good, some just favor one over the other. I was more impressed with the quality of the ACR over the SCAR.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vereor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did you like it so much?
I've shot/used both the SCAR and the ACR, and have very little love for the ACR. Most judge things, guns especially, on how they look or how "cool" they are, and on nothing to do with how they shoot. </div></div>
Agreed. But like I mentioned, I have had plenty of time to compare both rifles and I favor the ACR. At the end of the day its like buying a BMW or Mercedes. Both are good, some just favor one over the other. I was more impressed with the quality of the ACR over the SCAR.
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Gents, the ACR's are coming. Does anyone know how long the SCAR has been under development. I was supposed to be issued one upon return from OIF in Jan 06. The Masada (ACR) was introduced at SHOT '07 as a very early prototype, meaning, it didn't have a lot of development time behind it at that point, so we're coming up on 3 years. The original target price was 1500 bucks, that was from the Magpul days, the rumors are now it will be 1700-2k.
The ACR is a good platform (I'm biased but I'm not particularly inclined to like any 5.56 platform). It's not magic, it uses a G36/AR18 operating system, a FAL style gas piston system, AR barrels and AR mags, all of which are proven. Added to those components is a high level of modularity (stocks, handguards, owers, barrels) and ambi controls. And yes it has style. That's a good recipe. Will it finish you off and mow the lawn, no. It's a rifle, and the guys who end up with one will be pleased I think.
Shooter 5 has shot the big boy version (Massoud) directly along side a SCAR H so he has good insight.
Gents, the ACR's are coming. Does anyone know how long the SCAR has been under development. I was supposed to be issued one upon return from OIF in Jan 06. The Masada (ACR) was introduced at SHOT '07 as a very early prototype, meaning, it didn't have a lot of development time behind it at that point, so we're coming up on 3 years. The original target price was 1500 bucks, that was from the Magpul days, the rumors are now it will be 1700-2k.
The ACR is a good platform (I'm biased but I'm not particularly inclined to like any 5.56 platform). It's not magic, it uses a G36/AR18 operating system, a FAL style gas piston system, AR barrels and AR mags, all of which are proven. Added to those components is a high level of modularity (stocks, handguards, owers, barrels) and ambi controls. And yes it has style. That's a good recipe. Will it finish you off and mow the lawn, no. It's a rifle, and the guys who end up with one will be pleased I think.
Shooter 5 has shot the big boy version (Massoud) directly along side a SCAR H so he has good insight.
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Forearm length is too short. Rail is to tall and too wide. Selector lever is harder to manipulate then on the M4/M16 series and SCAR.
I have zero issues with properly maintained and built M4/M16 series guns as far as reliability goes. In addition they offer max potential for good drivers, as far as shootability goes. I do not measure the performance of guns by what they look like or the hype surrounding them. I care only if they allow me to shoot better...
Forearm length is too short. Rail is to tall and too wide. Selector lever is harder to manipulate then on the M4/M16 series and SCAR.
I have zero issues with properly maintained and built M4/M16 series guns as far as reliability goes. In addition they offer max potential for good drivers, as far as shootability goes. I do not measure the performance of guns by what they look like or the hype surrounding them. I care only if they allow me to shoot better...
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Harder to manipulate in what way? The geometry of the fire controls are nearly identical to the AR, in fact it uses the AR fire control system (trigger, hammer, etc). Was the detent too stiff or the lever too short, or...?
I agree with you on how to measure the performance of guns, plus reliability. What I find particularly beneficial in the ACR is the bolt release location, that and the "swap-ability" (and ease of) of the buttstocks and handguards.
Harder to manipulate in what way? The geometry of the fire controls are nearly identical to the AR, in fact it uses the AR fire control system (trigger, hammer, etc). Was the detent too stiff or the lever too short, or...?
I agree with you on how to measure the performance of guns, plus reliability. What I find particularly beneficial in the ACR is the bolt release location, that and the "swap-ability" (and ease of) of the buttstocks and handguards.
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I've been searching like crazy for a release date from a valid source. I read from a couple forums the release is supposed to be this summer but i don't know. I've read mostly that Bushmaster/remington is waiting for the army trials for a new assault rifle. I'm hoping it comes out this summer cause im picking up a 12.5 right when it hits shelves if i can find one. One thing i love it about it is all the calibers you can change into. According to remingtonmilitary.com it will be adaptive to be chambered in 5.56, 6.8, 6.5, and as we already know 7.62x39mm
I've been searching like crazy for a release date from a valid source. I read from a couple forums the release is supposed to be this summer but i don't know. I've read mostly that Bushmaster/remington is waiting for the army trials for a new assault rifle. I'm hoping it comes out this summer cause im picking up a 12.5 right when it hits shelves if i can find one. One thing i love it about it is all the calibers you can change into. According to remingtonmilitary.com it will be adaptive to be chambered in 5.56, 6.8, 6.5, and as we already know 7.62x39mm
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team Bushmaster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know that all of our Bushmaster fans have been anxiously awaiting the release of the new ACR, so we want to give you guys a quick update. The ACR testing and analysis programs are running right on schedule. We are running it through every imaginable scenario to ensure that it’s absolutely ready to be released. Each day brings us closer and closer to the official launch, which is slated for the first half of 2010. Until then, sign up for our monthly newsletter for more updates and information as it comes available</div></div>
Just found this. Sounds like good news too me. Gives me time to save up some money.
http://www.bushmaster.com/acr_update.asp
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team Bushmaster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know that all of our Bushmaster fans have been anxiously awaiting the release of the new ACR, so we want to give you guys a quick update. The ACR testing and analysis programs are running right on schedule. We are running it through every imaginable scenario to ensure that it’s absolutely ready to be released. Each day brings us closer and closer to the official launch, which is slated for the first half of 2010. Until then, sign up for our monthly newsletter for more updates and information as it comes available</div></div>
Just found this. Sounds like good news too me. Gives me time to save up some money.
http://www.bushmaster.com/acr_update.asp
