California AR10

[Rancid Coolaid]

In what configuration is an AR10 legal in California? Or is it ever?

How you people live there is beyond me, but thanks for the help.

 

[LegioX]

Re: California AR10

If one is in Kali and logged on to the Hide, it's illegal to even type "AR-10"

 

[Tactical]

Re: California AR10

To be legal it has to start with a "Off list Lower" Thats any lower not on named assault weapons ban list. No Armalite AR10s or SR25s. The rest can come in in pieces or complete if they have ten rds or less magazine installed with bullet buitton or other device that requirres a tool to remove the magazine.

Now some guys do the weird stock set up, no pistol grip or thumb hole and no flash hider so they can run high capacty magazines.

Thats about it

 

[Chiller]

Re: California AR10

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...732#Post2643732

Jason B's GAP10.

 

[Bob Fangou]

Re: California AR10

Start here:
http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

Page two lists the OLL (off list lowers), then install a bullet button and its nearly free game from there. Our laws have actually laxed quit a bit lately. That flow chart will make it easy to understand. Plus the guys at calguns can answer any questions necessary to keep it legal.

 

[Redmanss]

Re: California AR10

They all have to look like this:

 

[buggsb]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To be legal it has to start with a "Off list Lower" Thats any lower not on named assault weapons ban list. No Armalite AR10s or SR25s. The rest can come in in pieces or complete if they have ten rds or less magazine installed with bullet buitton or other device that requirres a tool to remove the magazine.

Now some guys do the weird stock set up, no pistol grip or thumb hole and no flash hider so they can run high capacty magazines.

Thats about it</div></div>

That's basically it in a nutshell.

Offlist lower + bullet button + 10 round magazine = CA legal.

The rest of it is up to the buyer as to how he wants to configure it.

 

[BCP]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They all have to look like this:

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LOL

That rifle actually made the news, some ding-dong at CNN? did a story about a company marketing assault weapons to children. Nevermind it was a one-off made by a guy for his old lady...

 

[BCP]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How you people live there is beyond me</div></div>

Trust me people here say the same thing about other parts of the country...

 

[AWP]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To be legal it has to start with a "Off list Lower" Thats any lower not on named assault weapons ban list. No Armalite AR10s or SR25s. The rest can come in in pieces or complete if they have ten rds or less magazine installed with bullet buitton or other device that requirres a tool to remove the magazine.

Now some guys do the weird stock set up, no pistol grip or thumb hole and no flash hider so they can run high capacty magazines.

Thats about it </div></div>


I think you mean so they can run detachable magazines not high capacity.

 

[steelcomp]

Re: California AR10

I've had several AR10's and currently have two. All built on Aero Precision lowers, Armalite uppers, and all sorts of different configurations of aftermarket parts. It's not a problem at all.

 

[Bob Fangou]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AWP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To be legal it has to start with a "Off list Lower" Thats any lower not on named assault weapons ban list. No Armalite AR10s or SR25s. The rest can come in in pieces or complete if they have ten rds or less magazine installed with bullet buitton or other device that requirres a tool to remove the magazine.

Now some guys do the weird stock set up, no pistol grip or thumb hole and no flash hider so they can run high capacty magazines.

Thats about it </div></div>


I think you mean so they can run detachable magazines not high capacity.
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Yeah high cap magazines and ARs constitute Assault Weapons in CA and therefore a felony. No matter the situation unless you have a registered AW, good luck with that.

 

[NoExpert]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bob Fangou</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah high cap magazines and ARs constitute Assault Weapons in CA and therefore a felony. No matter the situation unless you have a registered AW, good luck with that. </div></div>

Misinformation... If you get a grip that does not allow a pistol grip hold like the monster grip or the one shown on the hello kitty rifle above as well as no other "evil features", you can run any capacity detachable magazine(s) as long as you had the magazine(s) prior to the Jan 1, 2000 ban. These are called "featureless rifles".

I recommend you go back and read the link you posted so you pass on the correct info.

 

[Bob Fangou]

Re: California AR10

You are correct, my mistake I was not thinking featureless.

 

[rchman]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They all have to look like this:

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The sad thing is that is not too far from the truth. They are working on requiring BB guns to come in bright colors:

http://www.news10.net/news/article/137067/29/BB-guns-would-get-bright-colors-under-CA-bill

 

[steelcomp]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoExpert</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bob Fangou</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah high cap magazines and ARs constitute Assault Weapons in CA and therefore a felony. No matter the situation unless you have a registered AW, good luck with that. </div></div>

Misinformation... If you get a grip that does not allow a pistol grip hold like the monster grip or the one shown on the hello kitty rifle above as well as no other "evil features", you can run any capacity detachable magazine(s) as long as you had the magazine(s) prior to the Jan 1, 2000 ban. These are called "featureless rifles".

I recommend you go back and read the link you posted so you pass on the correct info. </div></div>Even then the law is very ambiguous as to the legality of owning high cap mags. It's a lot easier just to install a bullet button and enjoy the rifle as it was intended. I have yet to have anyone give me a hard time for my high cap mags. If I'm going to the range or somewhere I'm not familiar with, I just take ten round mags. I'm not into the 10rnd/30rnd imitation "play army man" high cap mags...LOL...that's silly. The mag holds what it holds...why pretend it's something it's not.

 

[Tactical]

Re: California AR10

No I am not wrong and I meant high capacity magazines. If its not configured as an assault weapon/featureless then you can run legally owned pre ban high capaicity magazines just like a M1A does

 

[steelcomp]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No I am not wrong and I meant high capacity magazines. If its not configured as an assault weapon/featureless then you can run legally owned pre ban high capaicity magazines just like a M1A does </div></div>I said the laws are ambiguous as to owning them, not using them, and I didn't say you were wrong.

 

[Tactical]

Re: California AR10

Steele, sorry my second post was after yours but not directed at you. It was the ones who corrected me incorrectly earlier. LOL

I should have gone back and replied to them instead of you

With that said 20 rds is better than 10 rds anyday everyday.

 

[Mute]

Re: California AR10

There is no ambiguity to owning high cap magazines. If the mags were owned prior to the ban then it's perfectly legal. The only ambiguity is in having high capacity mags that are not "pre-ban" and the law only forbids importation and manufacturing not ownership.

 

[branson1369]

Re: California AR10

Hang in there guys and hopefully you can vote those folks out!!! If I can ever help any of you guys stuck out there let me know my small shop is CA compliant and friendly (cannot let those folks win)

Semper Fi

 

[NoExpert]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mute</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no ambiguity to owning high cap magazines. If the mags were owned prior to the ban then it's perfectly legal. The only ambiguity is in having high capacity mags that are not "pre-ban" and the law only forbids importation and manufacturing not ownership. </div></div>

Exactly, the law is pretty black and white.

As for 10/20 or 10/30 mags... I only have one 10/20 PMag for my AR and one 10/20 CMI mag for my M25, they're easier for me to insert and remove...

 

[Mute]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: branson1369</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hang in there guys and hopefully you can vote those folks out!!! If I can ever help any of you guys stuck out there let me know my small shop is CA compliant and friendly (cannot let those folks win)

Semper Fi </div></div>

Thank you for the support! You don't know how much it's appreciated.

 

[onetoe]

Re: California AR10

Barrett in 416 Barrett

Gap in 6.5 MM CM

Both of these rifles are California legal. They have a bullet buton mag release installed. I never need more than a ten round magazine for either one of these platforms. All my AR 15's and AR 15 magazines that I use in competition are pre-ban so I have numerous high capacity magazines for them. Even tho I live on the left coast I still can purchase some pretty cool shit.

 

[dpairborneranger]

Re: California AR10

You have to move next door to Arizona haha

 

[thehouseproduct]

Re: California AR10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I'm not into the 10rnd/30rnd imitation "play army man" high cap mags...LOL...that's silly. The mag holds what it holds...why pretend it's something it's not.</div></div> I have them because it allows me to change mags faster, be able to switch over to the real mags when out of state without additional practice and finally if or when high caps are allowed or I move, a dremel will give me standard capacity mags in a few minutes.

 

[superjc]

Re: California AR10

Everything said above is true except "high capacity" magazines changing the status of the gun. With no "pistol grip" you can uses magazines that hold more than ten rounds, of course mags that you lawfully possessed before Jan 1, 2000. A 19-year old at the range with a "monster man" grip (like on that Hello Kitty pink AR) and 30 round PMAGS would look..... suspicious.

I have a magazine lock on my Imbel rec. FAL and a similar grip de-pistolifier on my PTR-91 so I can use the G3 mags I paid up to $40 in the run-up to the ban...

 

[Sulenski]

Re: California AR10

Here is my POF .308 that is completely CA legal. The 20 round magazines are pinned at the 10 round mark and a bullet button installed.

There are at least a dozen or more lowers that are CA legal off list lowers OLL that arent banned or prohibited. Both the Armalite and DPMS style lowers can be had legally in CA. KAC Armalite, DPMS, Bushmaster, Colt marked lowers are about the only things you cant get in CA.

Everything else is good to go as long as the rifle doesnt have the "evil features"

 

[JD42]

Re: California AR10

They have a werid law. They have a list of banned rifles etc. Manufatures just keep changeing there name to get of the list. Also you have to use a blocked and locked mag. Very sad. On of the reasion i moved.

 

[ACK]

Re: California AR10

Silly laws, I am running a Remington R25, nothing but a painted DPMS LR308

 

[RSOSniper]

Re: California AR10

Get yourself a noveske N6, Aero Precision, Rock River LAR 8 or even the new bushmaster ORC put in a bullet button and you are good to go with 10 round mags. Or you can go "featureless" with a monster man grip and run Hi Caps. Welcome to the peoples republic of Kommiefornia