Rifle Scopes Calling all mark 6 owners

[generalzip]

Does your turret do this? While the turret is locked I give a light turn counter clockwise and get this.

Then still with the turret locked I give I light turn clockwise and it stops here

Is this normal? It's driving me insane and makes it nearly impossible to get exactly to the .1 mil I want unless I make sure I always give it a tug counterclockwise first while locked


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[HumbleEinstein]

I'm thinking about getting a mark 6. Please provide updates on this.

 

[cjgemm]

There is a little play in the turrets on mine, but it is pretty easy to tell where you are.

 

[Pusher591]

This isn't gonna be that great of a help but I just read about this somewhere else but I can't remember where. They were having the same issue and sent it back to Leupold. Down time was short and it works excellent now. These scopes are great and I wouldn't hesitate to get one.

 

[ego235]

Yeah this is normal, both of mine exhibited this. Someone in a different post asked a Leupold rep about it. Basically no adjustment is made until it clicks over. The slight play in the locking turret does not make any actual elevation changes. When you actually turn it, listen for the audible clicks to be sure you're on the next increment.

In the picture you indicated you did not disengage the lock, just turned the knob counterclockwise hence even though it looks like it is on the .1, it in fact is not.

 

[generalzip]

Yeah this is normal, both of mine exhibited this. Someone in a different post asked a Leupold rep about it. Basically no adjustment is made until it clicks over. The slight play in the locking turret does not make any actual elevation changes. When you actually turn it, listen for the audible clicks to be sure you're on the next increment.

I understand. Hmmm the issue is more that when I'm adjust up I know where I am. But when I adjust down it's essentially telling me I'm .1 mil less than I really am because I'm spinning the turret down rather than up. Does that make sense?


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[K_4c]

^ yep. this is what a Luppy rep told me too.

I don't like it and found it to be my only gripe thus far.

 

[generalzip]

^ yep. this is what a Luppy rep told me too.

I don't like it and found it to be my only gripe thus far.

Agreed. As well as the nearly impossible to turn diopter eyepiece adjustment. Fortunately, I think mine came in a pretty good place


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[generalzip]

While it is incredibly annoying in all reality what difference does .1 mil make? Pretty much nothing. Once you get to a point where it's significant 800+ yards, you will be more concerned about wind and other variables than being off .1 mil on the elevation. Still, it's the only thing I don't like about the scope really. Looking forward to getting a PH and comparing it to that.

Also to note the parallax is incredibly off on my mark 6. I need to set it at almost 500 yards to focus on the letters on my target at 100 yards. Functionally this means nothing but is still something to complain about I suppose when you drop this kind of dough on an optic


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[phreakmode]

None of my 4 do that, they move aprox .05 mil only while locked.

 

[K_4c]

I think we all need to make this known to luppy and have a recall in place (ha).... $1750+ for new glass should not have this issue (personally I think it's poor engineering).

 

[bp7178]

While it is incredibly annoying in all reality what difference does .1 mil make? Pretty much nothing. Once you get to a point where it's significant 800+ yards, you will be more concerned about wind and other variables than being off .1 mil on the elevation. Still, it's the only thing I don't like about the scope really. Looking forward to getting a PH and comparing it to that.

Also to note the parallax is incredibly off on my mark 6. I need to set it at almost 500 yards to focus on the letters on my target at 100 yards. Functionally this means nothing but is still something to complain about I suppose when you drop this kind of dough on an optic


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For the money, .36" at 100 yards is a bit too much slop for my wallet.

 

[generalzip]

Are you other guys getting about .05 mil of movement like phreak? Or closer to .1 like me? I believe mine was at .05 bit after some fidgeting and setting zero stop a few times, etc. it opened up to about .1 mil movement


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[rippit]

Mine does the same thing. I like the scope. The size is right , the glass is good, I like the TMR ret. but my turret has play just like that and my clicks are mushy. I have a deer hunt in 2 weeks and as soon as it's over I will be sending my mark6 to Leupold. If it comes back the same it will be for sale , and I will try the march 3-24

 

[generalzip]

It's beginning to sound pretty universal this is a common flaw with the mark 6 and should be expected from the factory. As long as you remember to give it a tug counter clockwise or clockwise (whatever you end up setting it up like) you will always have an accurate reading. I almost wish it was 5 mild per turn which would space out the hash marks and make it more accurate.


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[bp7178]

Can anyone comment if the M5C2 turrets present the same problem?

 

[cjgemm]

Can anyone comment if the M5C2 turrets present the same problem?

If they are like the windage turret I would say no. I like mine, light wieght, good power range, easy to adjust your zero for use with a suppessor or between different rifles and an excellent price point for what you get. I can live with nugging the turret CW to the corret hash mark.

 

[K_4c]

It doesn't affect anything as stated above (I've box tested this glass and everything was spot on) I just hate how I have to remember what dope I have on the glass...especially if I want to make a minor adjustment due to a miss (yes it happens ).

 

[*Bones*]

I am glad I went with the Night Force 2.5-10 That just came in the mail today!!!!!

 

[generalzip]

I am glad I went with the Night Force 2.5-10 That just came in the mail today!!!!!

Don't take this personally but after using both, I'd still 100% take the mark 6. The glass is on par with 3000 dollar scopes and it's very small and lightweight and boasts a better mag range than night force. Not to mention the tmr is probably one of if not my favorite reticle but obviously that's personal preference


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[RFutch]

Mine has about .05 mil of movement. The only time it really bothers me is when I dial back to the zero stop. I know I'm at my zero but it just looks off. Other than that the scope is awesome.

 

[ego235]

That's great you got the 2.5-10 NF bones, but comparing that to the MK6 is a bit of a stretch. They're not exactly cousins of each other...18x vs 10x and ffp vs sfp. I think the NF F1 would be a much closer comparison if you were in the market for that type of scope.

 

[bp7178]

Lets not forget illumination is about a $1,000 option with the Mark 6...

I want to like the Mark 6, the overall size and magnification range is excellent. But the turret problem...eh. I have a bad taste from a TS30-A2 which didn't have the most defined clicks. A non-illuminated reticle with a 6x erector when used on the low end...again, eh.

The overall size and magnification range with the low turrets and an illuminated TMR would be the heat.

 

[thrusty]

Anyone have any info whether the Mk 8 scopes exhibit the same issue?

 

[generalzip]

Anyone have any info whether the Mk 8 scopes exhibit the same issue?

Same turrets so yes it would stand to reason they suffer from the same problem.

Also I thought if miss the non illuminated reticle and was also worried how it would look on the low end. Class is so clear and bright I can't imagine needing illumination. Even at dusk. As for the low end...I don't plan on using 3x unless I'm shooting less than 150 yards. I have a 100 yard zero so anything I shoot at 35-150 yards you put the crosshairs on and you hit it. The reticle hash marks are unusable below about 7x but the reticle is still very visible


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[j-dubya]

The Mark 8's have the same issue. The 3-25 exhibits a .1-slop, and the CQBSS shows about .05. The turrets on the CQBSS appear and feel to be executed much better. My biggest issue with the 3-25 slop is the first-tenth click right after the 5-mil tactile click. It is tough to hit it without going past it - and then thinking you are actually still on it due to the slop.