Just heard they were allowing F Class shooters to shoot next year along with the longrange championships. Can anyone confirm?
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Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Confirmed.
The America Team Match will be held there next year (held every two years) and this is the first time that F-Class shooters will be allowed to participate at Camp Perry.
Confirmed.
The America Team Match will be held there next year (held every two years) and this is the first time that F-Class shooters will be allowed to participate at Camp Perry.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Yep, 2112. Sounds about right. I figured it would be at least 100 years before they allowed us F'ers at Perry.
Yep, 2112. Sounds about right. I figured it would be at least 100 years before they allowed us F'ers at Perry.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I'll be interested to see how the bondage guys at the club feel about that. I know of at least one and maybe more who have been shooting HP only because there is no F-Class at Perry.
I'll be interested to see how the bondage guys at the club feel about that. I know of at least one and maybe more who have been shooting HP only because there is no F-Class at Perry.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
yep, standing on one's feet to shoot is just too tough for some. The National Rifle Matches are not exempt from the lowering of the bar in America.
Why don't you guys just go to the Benchrest Nat's, it's no different except you lay on the ground?
yep, standing on one's feet to shoot is just too tough for some. The National Rifle Matches are not exempt from the lowering of the bar in America.
Why don't you guys just go to the Benchrest Nat's, it's no different except you lay on the ground?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Well I dont know how shooting a scoped 308 off a bipod and sand sock is Bench Rest so please school me. Many a High Power Shooter has had his arse kicked shooting F TR. Its not easy
As for F Open, you try and hit the 5" center at 1000 yards with wind blowing and tell me how easy it is.
None of the shooting sports are easy
Well I dont know how shooting a scoped 308 off a bipod and sand sock is Bench Rest so please school me. Many a High Power Shooter has had his arse kicked shooting F TR. Its not easy
As for F Open, you try and hit the 5" center at 1000 yards with wind blowing and tell me how easy it is.
None of the shooting sports are easy
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xcount</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yep, standing on one's feet to shoot is just too tough for some. </div></div>
This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. Do you boycott all the prone and sitting matches?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xcount</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yep, standing on one's feet to shoot is just too tough for some. </div></div>
This is exactly what I was talking about in my earlier post. Do you boycott all the prone and sitting matches?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
X Count and I pm'd. You know he has a good point. XTR why is it you slag the sling shooters? Seems like only yesterday you where asking which way to point the rifle?
We have enough crap being swung around between F and Sling shooters without anyone starting crap.
As Vice Captain of the 2013 US F TR Team I would suggest ANYONE wanting to be considered for the US National F TR Team not throw turds at sling shooters. Most of us on Team where/Are Sling Shooters. I wonder where my sling ideas come from? LOL
X Count and I pm'd. You know he has a good point. XTR why is it you slag the sling shooters? Seems like only yesterday you where asking which way to point the rifle?
We have enough crap being swung around between F and Sling shooters without anyone starting crap.
As Vice Captain of the 2013 US F TR Team I would suggest ANYONE wanting to be considered for the US National F TR Team not throw turds at sling shooters. Most of us on Team where/Are Sling Shooters. I wonder where my sling ideas come from? LOL
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Mike,
I completely agree about High Power/F-Class shooters sticking together. I get tired of the back and forth about which is better. F-Class is a part of High Power and wouldn't even be around without it. I shoot right beside the High Power shooters at all of my matches and have never had an issue with anyone. It's the internet.
Ryan
Mike,
I completely agree about High Power/F-Class shooters sticking together. I get tired of the back and forth about which is better. F-Class is a part of High Power and wouldn't even be around without it. I shoot right beside the High Power shooters at all of my matches and have never had an issue with anyone. It's the internet.
Ryan
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Sheesh... might finally have to break down and think about going to Camp Perry after all
Then again, there are matches closer to home that time of year (BCRA Int'l, PNW Int'l), so maybe not... but its good to have the option.
Sheesh... might finally have to break down and think about going to Camp Perry after all
Then again, there are matches closer to home that time of year (BCRA Int'l, PNW Int'l), so maybe not... but its good to have the option.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I shoot a bolt .223 in F-TR. I shoot a match AR when I shoot XTC (when I shoot). I don't make fun of either group. Well.....maybe the F-TR .308 shooters just a little.
I shoot a bolt .223 in F-TR. I shoot a match AR when I shoot XTC (when I shoot). I don't make fun of either group. Well.....maybe the F-TR .308 shooters just a little.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
This question is directed only because of my past exp. with NRA HP shooting. Would it be advantageous to be a classified shooter for this match? Or is this a one class match? i.e. sharpshooter, master, high master etc. or you shoot open or ft/r and that is that?
This question is directed only because of my past exp. with NRA HP shooting. Would it be advantageous to be a classified shooter for this match? Or is this a one class match? i.e. sharpshooter, master, high master etc. or you shoot open or ft/r and that is that?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
This is very welcome news. Like jetmd, I am curious at how shooters will be squadded. Any chance that the program would allow a shooter to participate in both f-class and HP sling matches? If so that would make a great but totally exhausting week!
This is very welcome news. Like jetmd, I am curious at how shooters will be squadded. Any chance that the program would allow a shooter to participate in both f-class and HP sling matches? If so that would make a great but totally exhausting week!
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I was told you would all be squadded together. ie...F-class shooting next to the slingers.
I don't know if my source is reliable.
Eddie
I was told you would all be squadded together. ie...F-class shooting next to the slingers.
I don't know if my source is reliable.
Eddie
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG
Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I don't believe I "slagged" anyone. The "Bondage shooters" comment? I've watched them suit up and nearly pass out from heat exhaustion at the end of the 3rd match this summer. My match director was in the club house hugging a 10 pound bag of ice at the end of a match this yr. So yea, I flick them a little shit from time to time, but I shoot side by side with slingers. I thought that was pretty harmless.
I shoot at ORSA, we have a really organized HP group and they spend all spring/summer getting ready for Perry. Look at our shooting calendar, there is "Perry Practice" on it every week, and I hear it every week. Like I said above I saw at least one guy switch from F-TR to slings earlier this year trying to get rated in time for Perry. For a lot of the guys here Perry is the only trip they do every yr, so I'm betting that if they let us shoot F class that I'll see some of them switch. There was nothing there that was slagging anyone, X is the thin skinned one that escalated it to shit slinging.
As for <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems like only yesterday you where asking which way to point the rifle?</div></div>
This forum appeared w/i a week of the time I sent Frank a PM asking for an F class forum to get us out of the Tactical Competition forums, though I doubt that I was the only one I took it upon myself to populate it with some threads to get some useful information out there for new shooters, <span style="font-weight: bold">and </span>get some info for myself since almost everyone here shoots HP. Take a look at those threads I started in the first weeks, Loads, barrels, bullets, hello, I half expected them to get stickied in here. I started them hoping to put up a decent library of information for F class shooters (stickeys still wouldn't be a bad idea).
As for the smartass "standing on your feet" comment from X, I just picked up a White Oak Precision upper to build an AR for service rifle next year. I'm sure that with my 51yo lasic corrected eyes I'll suck but I'm doing it for fun. So kiss my ass. [edit] <span style="font-style: italic">Oh yea, and one more thing. Tell you what, I suck, my personal best from 1000 is about 186 but I'll spot you 20 points if you'll shoot standing on your feet with no supports other than your sling from 1000 yds against my pod and rest, and you can use the HP 1000 yd target. Loser buys pizza and beer at Big Ed's.</span>
I don't believe I "slagged" anyone. The "Bondage shooters" comment? I've watched them suit up and nearly pass out from heat exhaustion at the end of the 3rd match this summer. My match director was in the club house hugging a 10 pound bag of ice at the end of a match this yr. So yea, I flick them a little shit from time to time, but I shoot side by side with slingers. I thought that was pretty harmless.
I shoot at ORSA, we have a really organized HP group and they spend all spring/summer getting ready for Perry. Look at our shooting calendar, there is "Perry Practice" on it every week, and I hear it every week. Like I said above I saw at least one guy switch from F-TR to slings earlier this year trying to get rated in time for Perry. For a lot of the guys here Perry is the only trip they do every yr, so I'm betting that if they let us shoot F class that I'll see some of them switch. There was nothing there that was slagging anyone, X is the thin skinned one that escalated it to shit slinging.
As for <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems like only yesterday you where asking which way to point the rifle?</div></div>
This forum appeared w/i a week of the time I sent Frank a PM asking for an F class forum to get us out of the Tactical Competition forums, though I doubt that I was the only one I took it upon myself to populate it with some threads to get some useful information out there for new shooters, <span style="font-weight: bold">and </span>get some info for myself since almost everyone here shoots HP. Take a look at those threads I started in the first weeks, Loads, barrels, bullets, hello, I half expected them to get stickied in here. I started them hoping to put up a decent library of information for F class shooters (stickeys still wouldn't be a bad idea).
As for the smartass "standing on your feet" comment from X, I just picked up a White Oak Precision upper to build an AR for service rifle next year. I'm sure that with my 51yo lasic corrected eyes I'll suck but I'm doing it for fun. So kiss my ass. [edit] <span style="font-style: italic">Oh yea, and one more thing. Tell you what, I suck, my personal best from 1000 is about 186 but I'll spot you 20 points if you'll shoot standing on your feet with no supports other than your sling from 1000 yds against my pod and rest, and you can use the HP 1000 yd target. Loser buys pizza and beer at Big Ed's.</span>
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: asbestosglove</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG</div></div>
I agree. Just passing along info I was told.
Pretty simple to figure out. It could be as easy as F'ers shoot odd number targets and Slingers shoot even. (I am just speculating)
Eddie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: asbestosglove</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG</div></div>
I agree. Just passing along info I was told.
Pretty simple to figure out. It could be as easy as F'ers shoot odd number targets and Slingers shoot even. (I am just speculating)
Eddie
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
The way we do it is the slingers shoot below 12 or so and the Fer's as we are affectionately called shoot 12 or so up.
The way we do it is the slingers shoot below 12 or so and the Fer's as we are affectionately called shoot 12 or so up.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
One local range puts sling at one end, F at the other, with two or three points between the two groups. The segregation is bad enough at times that we basically have to have two sets of radios to the pits, as F-Class pretty much has to call for our own marks, etc.
Another range not far away up in BC goes the opposite route - they do forced integration - one target is TR, next target is F-class, next target is TR, next target F-class. There maybe isn't as much hob-nobbing and chit-chat between the groups, but it works out pretty smoothly. They also throw in moving over two firing points every yard line i.e. if you start on target 8 at one yardage, the next yardline you're on target 10, then you end up on target 12 for the last relay. People get rotated around between relays and firing points over the match so that no one gets the good conditions *all* the time
There's probably...50-60+ competitors, two range officers, paid target service... it works pretty much like clock-work. Then again, they've had a few years practice at running said event
Just an example, mind you. It's entirely possible to run sling-n-irons directly alongside F-class, not sticking either group down at the 'dirty' end of the line. And both groups learn to get along. They may never fully reconcile their differences, but they don't have much choice other than to act like adults and play nice
One local range puts sling at one end, F at the other, with two or three points between the two groups. The segregation is bad enough at times that we basically have to have two sets of radios to the pits, as F-Class pretty much has to call for our own marks, etc.
Another range not far away up in BC goes the opposite route - they do forced integration - one target is TR, next target is F-class, next target is TR, next target F-class. There maybe isn't as much hob-nobbing and chit-chat between the groups, but it works out pretty smoothly. They also throw in moving over two firing points every yard line i.e. if you start on target 8 at one yardage, the next yardline you're on target 10, then you end up on target 12 for the last relay. People get rotated around between relays and firing points over the match so that no one gets the good conditions *all* the time
Just an example, mind you. It's entirely possible to run sling-n-irons directly alongside F-class, not sticking either group down at the 'dirty' end of the line. And both groups learn to get along. They may never fully reconcile their differences, but they don't have much choice other than to act like adults and play nice
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
If they allow f/class next thing you know there will be indoor plumbing and women will be able to vote.
If they allow f/class next thing you know there will be indoor plumbing and women will be able to vote.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
When we do it for matches they are all side by side and there are hospital targets on the ends. Contrary to the impression that may have come across it's a friendly thing here.
When we do it for matches they are all side by side and there are hospital targets on the ends. Contrary to the impression that may have come across it's a friendly thing here.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
At sac valley we all shoot together at every match.The palma usually have match high score even out to 1K.
At sac valley we all shoot together at every match.The palma usually have match high score even out to 1K.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: asbestosglove</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG </div></div>
No, there is no problem with squadding sling and F class side by side, we do it all the time.
Bob L. Michigan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: asbestosglove</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since it is a different target, wouldn't squadding them side by side be a giant cluster***k waiting to happen at a match of that potential size? Just sayin...
AG </div></div>
No, there is no problem with squadding sling and F class side by side, we do it all the time.
Bob L. Michigan
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I get the idea regarding squadding, its done side by side at the matches I attend. Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
It would be nice to know the course of fire, or am I to understand that f-class will be included in all the long range HP matches.
If so, do the f-classers compete for their own trophy?
I get the idea regarding squadding, its done side by side at the matches I attend. Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
It would be nice to know the course of fire, or am I to understand that f-class will be included in all the long range HP matches.
If so, do the f-classers compete for their own trophy?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Forgot to mention that it would be fantastic to structure the long range competition so that a shooter could partake in the f-class and sling matches.
Forgot to mention that it would be fantastic to structure the long range competition so that a shooter could partake in the f-class and sling matches.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
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The F-Class target is not the same as the HP target. Is this being done in NRA approved matches?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
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The F-Class target is not the same as the HP target. Is this being done in NRA approved matches?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ryanjay11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
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The F-Class target is not the same as the HP target. Is this being done in NRA approved matches? </div></div>
Yes, I've done it a few times. You just have to swap targets between shooters.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ryanjay11</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even occasionally cross pollinating f-class with the HP folks on the same target depending on turnout.
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The F-Class target is not the same as the HP target. Is this being done in NRA approved matches? </div></div>
Yes, I've done it a few times. You just have to swap targets between shooters.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
XTR, You see its not harmless and always ends in one up on each side. You just did it again. Some of us who have been shooting for awhile have been working on fixing some of the problems between the groups we dont need opposite direction help.
As to this forum, well some of us have been around awhile and while I am glad Frank added this sub forum I dont feel like your owed a cookie. Remember one Oh Shit equals ten great things.
XTR, You see its not harmless and always ends in one up on each side. You just did it again. Some of us who have been shooting for awhile have been working on fixing some of the problems between the groups we dont need opposite direction help.
As to this forum, well some of us have been around awhile and while I am glad Frank added this sub forum I dont feel like your owed a cookie. Remember one Oh Shit equals ten great things.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
ryanjay11,
concur with DGosnell, we just make sure that whomever is responsible for posting a new target gets the right one up. I've never seen it happen where a target switch benefitted a f-class shooter. But, the HP shooter that didn't notice he was shooting an F-class target was... frustrated.
ryanjay11,
concur with DGosnell, we just make sure that whomever is responsible for posting a new target gets the right one up. I've never seen it happen where a target switch benefitted a f-class shooter. But, the HP shooter that didn't notice he was shooting an F-class target was... frustrated.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
This is great news- We're working hard to put a Canadian F team together to make the trip down for the America match. Looking forward to seeing everybody.
There is also a very good possability of a 4 day long range F class program being added to the end of the DCRA Fullbore championships the week following Perry, in hopes of attracting those f'ers already in the vicinity. Anybody interested?
This is great news- We're working hard to put a Canadian F team together to make the trip down for the America match. Looking forward to seeing everybody.
There is also a very good possability of a 4 day long range F class program being added to the end of the DCRA Fullbore championships the week following Perry, in hopes of attracting those f'ers already in the vicinity. Anybody interested?
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
School starts back up by then probably. The schedule is not out yet for the fall 2012 semester, but going on past trends, I'd have to head back home after Perry.
School starts back up by then probably. The schedule is not out yet for the fall 2012 semester, but going on past trends, I'd have to head back home after Perry.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I just shoot the Ohio State Midrange match yesterday and we had sling shooters on one end of the line and the F class shooters on the other. As long as you can squad sling with sling and F with F it is all good. If you must integrate, just have the pit boss and the line officer coordinate via radio. It is not a big deal at all. We all had fun and can lightly poke a bit of fun at each other, but that is part of the fun of going to a match. We are all shooters, and there is no one discipline more pure / harder or better than another. It is America by God and thankfully we have choices. I used to be a decent XTC rifleman, until my back and eyes got to be past 60 like the rest of me. Now I shoot mostly F and clang and bang. i would shoot it all if I physically could.
I just shoot the Ohio State Midrange match yesterday and we had sling shooters on one end of the line and the F class shooters on the other. As long as you can squad sling with sling and F with F it is all good. If you must integrate, just have the pit boss and the line officer coordinate via radio. It is not a big deal at all. We all had fun and can lightly poke a bit of fun at each other, but that is part of the fun of going to a match. We are all shooters, and there is no one discipline more pure / harder or better than another. It is America by God and thankfully we have choices. I used to be a decent XTC rifleman, until my back and eyes got to be past 60 like the rest of me. Now I shoot mostly F and clang and bang. i would shoot it all if I physically could.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
Started shooting F Class back in 2002 at Whittington. We were squadded with the Palma folks, and we were all shooting the same H/P 800, 900, and 1000yd Slow Fire target. We even shot two to a mound, mixed disciplines, alternating shots on the same target.
A couple of years later, folks brainstormed that F Class had too many ties and another target was needed. I agreed something needed doing, but they chose a different solution than I would have.
My solution was to add a 1/2MOA circular paster inside the regular X ring, calling it the XX ring. Shooters shot the same scoring rings, ties get broken with the XX-Count.
Damned near nobody liked it.
God Bless the good old NRA, always sniffing out the winds of change, bending to the winds of change...
They finally get around to adopting F Class at the Nationals the year after my creaky old bod can no longer manage Prone. I would have finally had some motivation to try and make it to Perry.
Loverly!
Greg
Started shooting F Class back in 2002 at Whittington. We were squadded with the Palma folks, and we were all shooting the same H/P 800, 900, and 1000yd Slow Fire target. We even shot two to a mound, mixed disciplines, alternating shots on the same target.
A couple of years later, folks brainstormed that F Class had too many ties and another target was needed. I agreed something needed doing, but they chose a different solution than I would have.
My solution was to add a 1/2MOA circular paster inside the regular X ring, calling it the XX ring. Shooters shot the same scoring rings, ties get broken with the XX-Count.
Damned near nobody liked it.
God Bless the good old NRA, always sniffing out the winds of change, bending to the winds of change...
They finally get around to adopting F Class at the Nationals the year after my creaky old bod can no longer manage Prone. I would have finally had some motivation to try and make it to Perry.
Loverly!
Greg
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
I think that is fantastic that they added this Class to the NRA program at Perry. The Long Range program needed a boost and this will do it. We just concluded our 2011 Kentucky State Championship with a mixed crew of F-Class, F-TR, and Match Rifle. Five relays on ten points. As usual, everything went very well. F-Class/F-TR is currently making up about 70% of our Long Range Program now. The way I see it...if not for F-Class, we may not even be hosting 1000 yard matches right now! Conversely, we just broke an attendence record!
This decision and the allowance of scoped AR's during XTC matches with the CMP are all good for our sport, it's all about getting more participation and it's working!
Greg..if you get your creaky ol bod down and can't get back up, I'll give you a helping hand!
Wind
I think that is fantastic that they added this Class to the NRA program at Perry. The Long Range program needed a boost and this will do it. We just concluded our 2011 Kentucky State Championship with a mixed crew of F-Class, F-TR, and Match Rifle. Five relays on ten points. As usual, everything went very well. F-Class/F-TR is currently making up about 70% of our Long Range Program now. The way I see it...if not for F-Class, we may not even be hosting 1000 yard matches right now! Conversely, we just broke an attendence record!
This decision and the allowance of scoped AR's during XTC matches with the CMP are all good for our sport, it's all about getting more participation and it's working!
Greg..if you get your creaky ol bod down and can't get back up, I'll give you a helping hand!
Wind
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Started shooting F Class back in 2002 at Whittington. We were squadded with the Palma folks, and we were all shooting the same H/P 800, 900, and 1000yd Slow Fire target. We even shot two to a mound, mixed disciplines, alternating shots on the same target.
A couple of years later, folks brainstormed that F Class had too many ties and another target was needed. I agreed something needed doing, but they chose a different solution than I would have.
My solution was to add a 1/2MOA circular paster inside the regular X ring, calling it the XX ring. Shooters shot the same scoring rings, ties get broken with the XX-Count.
Damned near nobody liked it.
God Bless the good old NRA, always sniffing out the winds of change, bending to the winds of change...
They finally get around to adopting F Class at the Nationals the year after my creaky old bod can no longer manage Prone. I would have finally had some motivation to try and make it to Perry.
Loverly!
Greg </div></div>
Greg,
I don't know you, but if you want to get that old creaky body out here next year to Perry for the shoot, you have an open invitation to stay at my place. I'm only an hour from Perry.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Started shooting F Class back in 2002 at Whittington. We were squadded with the Palma folks, and we were all shooting the same H/P 800, 900, and 1000yd Slow Fire target. We even shot two to a mound, mixed disciplines, alternating shots on the same target.
A couple of years later, folks brainstormed that F Class had too many ties and another target was needed. I agreed something needed doing, but they chose a different solution than I would have.
My solution was to add a 1/2MOA circular paster inside the regular X ring, calling it the XX ring. Shooters shot the same scoring rings, ties get broken with the XX-Count.
Damned near nobody liked it.
God Bless the good old NRA, always sniffing out the winds of change, bending to the winds of change...
They finally get around to adopting F Class at the Nationals the year after my creaky old bod can no longer manage Prone. I would have finally had some motivation to try and make it to Perry.
Loverly!
Greg </div></div>
Greg,
I don't know you, but if you want to get that old creaky body out here next year to Perry for the shoot, you have an open invitation to stay at my place. I'm only an hour from Perry.
Re: Camp Perry F Class 2112
There were some questions being asked on another site about what the schedule was for F-class at Camp Perry this year. I sent in some questions to the NRA. In case anyone here is interested, response below:
<span style="color: #3366FF">Subject: RE: Contact from NRAHQ web site: Competitions
Wade,
The program is still being written as we speak but here is a rough idea of what is planned.
F/O and F/TR will both be allowed to shoot in Long Range matches. This is an experiment to determine whether or not it is viable to add F-Class to the Camp Perry schedule. In other words, will competitors show up?
F-Class shooters will actually be shooting a Regional, but be shooting all the same courses of fire as the Long Range shooters. F-Class will be involved in all shoot-offs and team events but will be competing for their own awards.
F-Class will also be allowed to shoot the America Match.
A total of 48 F-Class shooters will be allowed entry. If we can fill those spots we will be in a better position to ask the OHNG to improve the range to add more firing points for next year. They are currently balking at doing so.
Next year (2013) I hope to add a Mid-Range High Power and a Mid-Range F-Class National Championship to the schedule. This match will be fired concurrently with High Power or with Long Range, I don't know which yet. It depends on from where I believe we will draw the largest number of shooters. Nothing is cast in stone on this yet.
Dennis L. Willing
Director, NRA Competitive Shooting Division</span>
There were some questions being asked on another site about what the schedule was for F-class at Camp Perry this year. I sent in some questions to the NRA. In case anyone here is interested, response below:
<span style="color: #3366FF">Subject: RE: Contact from NRAHQ web site: Competitions
Wade,
The program is still being written as we speak but here is a rough idea of what is planned.
F/O and F/TR will both be allowed to shoot in Long Range matches. This is an experiment to determine whether or not it is viable to add F-Class to the Camp Perry schedule. In other words, will competitors show up?
F-Class shooters will actually be shooting a Regional, but be shooting all the same courses of fire as the Long Range shooters. F-Class will be involved in all shoot-offs and team events but will be competing for their own awards.
F-Class will also be allowed to shoot the America Match.
A total of 48 F-Class shooters will be allowed entry. If we can fill those spots we will be in a better position to ask the OHNG to improve the range to add more firing points for next year. They are currently balking at doing so.
Next year (2013) I hope to add a Mid-Range High Power and a Mid-Range F-Class National Championship to the schedule. This match will be fired concurrently with High Power or with Long Range, I don't know which yet. It depends on from where I believe we will draw the largest number of shooters. Nothing is cast in stone on this yet.
Dennis L. Willing
Director, NRA Competitive Shooting Division</span>
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