Can I get some input on my suppressor short list? 2024

[pale-horse-idaho]

First of all, sorry to ask such an over-asked question. I am ready to drop by the LGS and make a purchase. My LGS has every "can" except the 22 take-down, which I can order and ship to them.

May I ask those who actually own one or more of these suppressors comment only. Too many opinions just puts me into analysis paralysis.

May I also ask that we stick to this list only, yes I know you have Jane Fonda's 1967 Maglight suppressor and it works better than all other suppressors, its just not info I need.

Here is my list;

22 Take-down-- (I've read it hits blast baffle on 22-ar15's and the rear cap sticks on the barrel, some minor first round pop)

Mask-- ( Research shows they are a marketing co. not a manufacturer and have bad QC along with bad support, little to no FRP)

Occulus-- ( I've read comments it has some FRP, they don't answer the phone!!!)

Nyx Mod2-- ( K-baffles float around no marking, no alignment, POI shift?, open k-baffle design makes a mess of the tube and baffles get stuck, might have powder blasting on blast baffle over time??)

** Checkmate HD-- (Aluminum tube worries me, saw pictures of a blown apart checkmate HD and the tube split by the blast baffle, think this one is a NO-GO!)

The mask always comes up as one of the best and if they had a good reputation and actually made the suppressor and had good QC/support I would just buy it.

I do not see a lot of info on the Tbac -22, but they did answer the phone and answer all my questions. I don't like the fact that the rear cap gets stuck on the barrel. It seems like a well built "can". The Co. seems good as well. They answer the phone.

Nyx-mod 2 is a real unknown, also not much info out there. Seems hard to get apart when dirty and stack has no re-alignment marks or clicks. The open baffle to the tube seems like an "old" design.

The occulus looks great and is built like a tank. I would have preferred a one-piece design but it is a two and not sure if it really matters. Not much info on FRP for this "can".

 

[Zak Smith]

(I've read it hits blast baffle on 22-ar15's and the rear cap sticks on the barrel, some minor first round pop)

The baffle spacing is set for the rimfire spec (0.40" muzzle to shoulder length). If you have a centerfire spec thread length, you will need a spacer or two to get it right.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

Zak Smith,

Ok so if I buy a CMMG 22LR dedicated barrel and run an SBR AR-22 I should be OK if I understand you correctly?

Can I also run some Vibra-tight on the rear cap threads to keep it from sticking to the barre? Is this operator error or ?

 

[Zak Smith]

I don't know how they cut their muzzle threads. Rimfire spec is supposed to be 0.40" but I've seen them (.22LR barrels in general) all over the place. I typically just throw a couple peel washers on there to space it out if the threads are too long.

 

[AirgunnerPCP]

I have both the Mask and Takedown 22. Both are excellent cans and both are very quiet. It's been awhile since I've shot them back to back but I do believe the Mask had very little to no FRP on rifles and pistols while the Takedown 22 had mild FRP on pistols. I do like the lighter weight of the TBAC on pistols but the negative is that it is a bit longer. I've not owned the other cans you list. It's my opinion though that as far as rimfire cans go you almost can't go wrong. Look for something that is easy to clean in the form factor you want that's in stock and call it good.

Mask-- ( Research shows they are a marketing co. not a manufacturer and have bad QC along with bad support, little to no FRP)

Saying that Dead Air is a marketing company because they don't manufacture their own cans is ignorant. It's extremely common for companies in many industries to outsource manufacturing to other companies. It doesn't make them a marketing company. Sometimes it's an engineering decision to outsource or sometimes it's a financial or scheduling decision to outsource. I do agree they dropped the ball lately when it comes to customer service and the situation they ended up in is a risk when you outsource. From what I've seen on the web it looks like Dead Air is catching up to the backlog.

 

[alamo5000]

First of all, sorry to ask such an over-asked question. I am ready to drop by the LGS and make a purchase. My LGS has every "can" except the 22 take-down, which I can order and ship to them.

May I ask those who actually own one or more of these suppressors comment only. Too many opinions just puts me into analysis paralysis.

May I also ask that we stick to this list only, yes I know you have Jane Fonda's 1967 Maglight suppressor and it works better than all other suppressors, its just not info I need.

Here is my list;

22 Take-down-- (I've read it hits blast baffle on 22-ar15's and the rear cap sticks on the barrel, some minor first round pop)

Mask-- ( Research shows they are a marketing co. not a manufacturer and have bad QC along with bad support, little to no FRP)

Occulus-- ( I've read comments it has some FRP, they don't answer the phone!!!)

Nyx Mod2-- ( K-baffles float around no marking, no alignment, POI shift?, open k-baffle design makes a mess of the tube and baffles get stuck, might have powder blasting on blast baffle over time??)

** Checkmate HD-- (Aluminum tube worries me, saw pictures of a blown apart checkmate HD and the tube split by the blast baffle, think this one is a NO-GO!)

The mask always comes up as one of the best and if they had a good reputation and actually made the suppressor and had good QC/support I would just buy it.

I do not see a lot of info on the Tbac -22, but they did answer the phone and answer all my questions. I don't like the fact that the rear cap gets stuck on the barrel. It seems like a well built "can". The Co. seems good as well. They answer the phone.

Nyx-mod 2 is a real unknown, also not much info out there. Seems hard to get apart when dirty and stack has no re-alignment marks or clicks. The open baffle to the tube seems like an "old" design.

The occulus looks great and is built like a tank. I would have preferred a one-piece design but it is a two and not sure if it really matters. Not much info on FRP for this "can".

I have an Occulus and a Griffin Optimus Micro. Both of them are excellent and both are built like tanks. The Griffin is also rated for 5.56 which is insane for a rim fire can. In one of the promo videos they did a full auto 60 round mag dump through one with no issues.

About the only down side to either of them is weight, which for me is not a concern. Especially on a rifle it's not a thing to worry about so much. Even on a pistol they are fine but some people are sensitive to it for some reason.

In my opinion between those two the Griffin is quieter on rifles and the Oculus is quieter on pistols. I've done my own back yard redneck science test and that's the result. Neither one is bad by any measure though. I would highly recommend either of them.

And for me being extremely rugged and basically bomb proof is a priority for me personally and both of them fit the bill.

The Rugged can has more FRP among the two. The Griffin one basically has none or very little. Again, both are excellent choices.

 

[jmw]

I own a tbac 22 takedown. I would highly recommend it

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

I have both the Mask and Takedown 22. Both are excellent cans and both are very quiet. It's been awhile since I've shot them back to back but I do believe the Mask had very little to no FRP on rifles and pistols while the Takedown 22 had mild FRP on pistols. I do like the lighter weight of the TBAC on pistols but the negative is that it is a bit longer. I've not owned the other cans you list. It's my opinion though that as far as rimfire cans go you almost can't go wrong. Look for something that is easy to clean in the form factor you want that's in stock and call it good.



Saying that Dead Air is a marketing company because they don't manufacture their own cans is ignorant. It's extremely common for companies in many industries to outsource manufacturing to other companies. It doesn't make them a marketing company. Sometimes it's an engineering decision to outsource or sometimes it's a financial or scheduling decision to outsource. I do agree they dropped the ball lately when it comes to customer service and the situation they ended up in is a risk when you outsource. From what I've seen on the web it looks like Dead Air is catching up to the backlog.

What I meant was because they outsource the making of their product they lose some control of quality. Its what I have read and its also what I experienced as a 22 year biz owner myself.

When big important chit needed to be done right or else..... I did it myself!

When I bought my first suppressor my LGS talked me out of a sandman and into a recce 7. He said they had so many returns on DA products it just wasn't worth the risk. He also said they had never had a rugged or griffin return and they sell a metric boat-load of suppressors each month.
My comment is/was based on knowledge and research.

Here is a great thread on who makes what and for who.

Which Companies Make Their Suppressors in House? - Page 1 - AR15.COM

Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear.

www.ar15.com

 

[Cletus Van Damme]

I have a mask 22 with no issues. I really like it, I’m a huge TBAC fan and have a few of their centerfire silencers but I personally thing the DA mask 22 is about as good as it gets for a rimfire silencer.

 

[FuhQ]

I have a Mask HD and 2x TBAC 22TD's. Both are excellent cans, and I highly recommend either of them.

The lighter weight of the TBAC is nice, and it has 2 more baffles and is slightly quieter than the Mask, on both rifles and pistols...Including a 3" barreled Ruger 22/45.

Also, even with the issues DA has had only recently, the Mask HD was never part of the problematic stuff...You'll be fine.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

I have a Mask HD and 2x TBAC 22TD's. Both are excellent cans, and I highly recommend either of them.

The lighter weight of the TBAC is nice, and it has 2 more baffles and is slightly quieter than the Mask, on both rifles and pistols...Including a 3" barreled Ruger 22/45.

Also, even with the issues DA has had only recently, the Mask HD was never part of the problematic stuff...You'll be fine.

Yes I heard that. I was at my LGS today and I asked about the return rate of the Mask and they said they had never returned one, so it was GTG in their opinion. And they do not like DA! He said with Mask you will be fine but would not recommend any other DA product.

They are now sold out of everything except the Occulus and the Mask. So my choice is going to be one of those two. I am trying to keep it as simple as I can and do not want to transfer the Tbac-22 in from another state and cause more delays.

I have read the Mask back end cap can stick on the barrel like the Tbac? That's a tic in the no Christmas card list. The occulus has a fixed rear cap that wont get stuck on the barrel, is that correct?

But quiet and no FRP is important so the Mask may get chosen anyway and I just work around the rear end cap issue.

 

[Zak Smith]

You can put a dab of loctite on the rear endcap if you want to. Otherwise I find that putting a little transverse force on the can body when unscrewing will add enough friction to the rear endcap's threads that it may come off the barrel if it doesn't want to. I have this issue maybe on 10% of the barrels I really crank it onto. Kind of depends on the muzzle threads.

 

[jmw]

Getting a can transferred to your ffl takes like a week, not that big of a deal

 

[AirgunnerPCP]

What I meant was because they outsource the making of their product they lose some control of quality. Its what I have read and its also what I experienced as a 22 year biz owner myself.

When big important chit needed to be done right or else..... I did it myself!

My comment is/was based on knowledge and research.

Here is a great thread on who makes what and for who.

Which Companies Make Their Suppressors in House? - Page 1 - AR15.COM

Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear.

www.ar15.com

My point is that outsourcing isn't necessarily bad or is an indicator of poor quality. If that were true we would not have a lot of the technology or products we see in everyday life. Some companies understand that some operations aren't in their wheelhouse and instead of trying to tool up and develop a brand new process its better to outsource it to a company who has the knowledge and core competence to do it.

There are tools like incoming inspections, final inspection, robust revision control, etc. that enable the design and building of large complex (definitely more complex than a suppressor) assemblies and products with components or assemblies that are outsourced in design and/or manufacture. Whether DA had those in place I don't know. Obviously there was a slip in quality at some point during the process which indicates their process needs to be improved.

 

[M4orturnate]

The mask and the takedown are both great cans. Between those two id get the tbac just based on how much they support shooting sports and the fact they're on here to answer questions. Not saying it's never happened but I've never seen a DA cert on a prize table

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

The mask and the takedown are both great cans. Between those two id get the tbac just based on how much they support shooting sports and the fact they're on here to answer questions. Not saying it's never happened but I've never seen a DA cert on a prize table

That's actually a great point and something I noticed but did not add to the equation. I found an out of state GS that has the TBAC in stock. Does anyone know how long the form 3's are taking right now?

 

[Zak Smith]

7-10 days

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

My point is that outsourcing isn't necessarily bad or is an indicator of poor quality. If that were true we would not have a lot of the technology or products we see in everyday life. Some companies understand that some operations aren't in their wheelhouse and instead of trying to tool up and develop a brand new process its better to outsource it to a company who has the knowledge and core competence to do it.

There are tools like incoming inspections, final inspection, robust revision control, etc. that enable the design and building of large complex (definitely more complex than a suppressor) assemblies and products with components or assemblies that are outsourced in design and/or manufacture. Whether DA had those in place I don't know. Obviously there was a slip in quality at some point during the process which indicates their process needs to be improved.

Understood!

I think DA was driving from the trunk. If things are not going right the worst thing you can do is ignore your paid customers that cannot go anywhere else because NFA.

I think we can agree that DA lost control of something. Not sure how you drop the ball on replying back to your customers, answering the damn phone and follow up?

During my decision making process one of my check list items is calling the company and seeing how they respond. I dislike dealing by email when I have a problem or question. TBAC was top of the list on that one.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

7-10 days

Thanks Zak. Not too long to wait for a quality product!
Zak any idea if Vibratight would work well on the rear cap? Its like thread velcro and can be used over and over.

 

[AirgunnerPCP]

Understood!

I think DA was driving from the trunk. If things are not going right the worst thing you can do is ignore your paid customers that cannot go anywhere else because NFA.

I think we can agree that DA lost control of something. Not sure how you drop the ball on replying back to your customers, answering the damn phone and follow up?

During my decision making process one of my check list items is calling the company and seeing how they respond. I dislike dealing by email when I have a problem or question. TBAC was top of the list on that one.

Agree completely. I only have the one TBAC can but based on its quality alone I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. It helps that they're active in the shooting sports generally too.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

Agree completely. I only have the one TBAC can but based on its quality alone I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. It helps that they're active in the shooting sports generally too.

I think my mind is made up. Thanks to all the smart folks on SH. The greatest thing on the internet, besides big titty porn, is the wealth of knowledge and great people who are willing to help.

I am going to order the TBAC-22 next week. Now I just need the Tax Stamp Gods to be kind to me on the wait.

2 day form 4 approval and a Kac suppressor, lucky guy!

 

[ping]

I own both the Mask and the TBAC 22 takedown. I bought the Mask first and loved it. I got the TBAC about a year later and love it even more.

The TBAC is quieter on every combination of hosts I have. The Mask comes in 2nd. I've only used them on the following hosts: Ruger Mark IV, browning buckmark, S&W M&P 15-22, Sig 522, Rem 22LR rifle bolt action, Tikka T1x 22lr and a few more. All my children (17Y to 24Y) and a few younger cousins say the difference is huge. I'm old and my hearing isn't perfect but I do notice a difference. I just think the delta is minimal between the TBAC and the Mask.

I did have the issue with the 15-22 threads where I needed a spacer for the TBAC. The other firearms are threaded for the 22lr and don't need spacers.

I also had the issue with the end cap initially but once I saw one of the TBAC guys pull on the suppressor a bit while unscrewing I tried that and I haven't had an issue again.

If I only had the $ to buy one I would buy the TBAC from my limited experience with these.

 

[FuhQ]

I own both the Mask and the TBAC 22 takedown. I bought the Mask first and loved it. I got the TBAC about a year later and love it even more.

The TBAC is quieter on every combination of hosts I have. The Mask comes in 2nd. I've only used them on the following hosts: Ruger Mark IV, browning buckmark, S&W M&P 15-22, Sig 522, Rem 22LR rifle bolt action, Tikka T1x 22lr and a few more. All my children (17Y to 24Y) and a few younger cousins say the difference is huge. I'm old and my hearing isn't perfect but I do notice a difference. I just think the delta is minimal between the TBAC and the Mask.

I did have the issue with the 15-22 threads where I needed a spacer for the TBAC. The other firearms are threaded for the 22lr and don't need spacers.

I also had the issue with the end cap initially but once I saw one of the TBAC guys pull on the suppressor a bit while unscrewing I tried that and I haven't had an issue again.

If I only had the $ to buy one I would buy the TBAC from my limited experience with these.

Same scenario for me, but about 2 years apart. I've put thousands and thousands of rounds through my Mask HD, and I still love that can, and it's built like a damn tank for a .22LR can, but that TBAC 22TD is just...Better. I don't know how else to describe it. They each have their pros and cons, but in the end, the TBAC is quieter, and lighter, and those make for a better balancing situation on a pistol and rifle. You don't notice it's there. Also, for some reason, my rifle groups slightly better with the TBAC on there. And I agree... Doing it all over again, I'd just start out with the TBAC's.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

Perfect! It looks like I made the right choice. I only wish my LGS had them in stock. But I am willing to wait a couple weeks extra to get the best 22 suppressor.

Hosts will be a CZ 457 rifle, a threaded 10-22 and a black Mamba mk4.

 

[Bluedog82]

Perfect! It looks like I made the right choice. I only wish my LGS had them in stock. But I am willing to wait a couple weeks extra to get the best 22 suppressor.

Hosts will be a CZ 457 rifle, a threaded 10-22 and a black Mamba mk4.

What’s an extra couple of weeks on top of a couple of months?

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

What’s an extra couple of weeks on top of a couple of months?

True that!

Got the order placed, now the wait. Thanks to SH and all the great folks here. Want to thank the TBAC guys for the help as well. Cant wait to get it approved and mounted up!

Thanks for your order​ ​ ​

Order #1xxxxxx​ Thunder Beast 22 Take Down: Sound Suppressor, Multi Purpose 22 Take Down I acknowledge that this product is REQUIRED to ship to an FFL - I will input the FFL's SHIPPING ADDRESS at checkout.: Yes $xxx.00 USD​ ​

 

[HaydenLane]

As high-flow technologies advance, I don’t see any reason to purchase something restrictive other than price. A traditional centerfire suppressor can be had for half the price of most low back pressure models. There isn’t nearly the same price delta in 22 cans.

That said, right now I’d be looking at the CAT/SR/A1 or Huxwrx Flow 22 TI.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

As high-flow technologies advance, I don’t see any reason to purchase something restrictive other than price. A traditional centerfire suppressor can be had for half the price of most low back pressure models. There isn’t nearly the same price delta in 22 cans.

That said, right now I’d be looking at the CAT/SR/A1 or Huxwrx Flow 22 TI.

Yeah ahhh NOPE!!!!!!!!!

Read and enjoy their FU policy! Someone needs to scoot their bed against the wall.

Definitely worth a read if you’re considering buying.

If you break it & it’s user error or not using their mount

• “If your CAT suppressor is broken or cocked up because of some stupid shit you did, we WILL NOT replace it. If you use anyone else’s accessory and it blows out the end, sends a round through the side, that’s on you buddy, and we WILL NOT replace it.”
• “CAT suppressors are engineered to line up exactly with the bore of your rifle (including a bore tolerance slightly larger than the caliber rated for your suppressor), as do our muzzle devices, so it defies engineering logic with all things equal that you’d have a failure.”
• “Please don’t try and say the suppressor was on one of our muzzle devices, because we’ll ask for a receipt and a photo of all the parts, and we’ll see what you did to it in two seconds. We just won’t replace suppressors because of stupidity, laziness or lack of commonsense, and anyone who thinks we should is an idiot too (you can buy each other beers and cry yourselves to sleep).”

If you break it using their complete mount system

• “If you buy a CAT suppressor, muzzle device and a reducer as a complete system, we are going to fix it by replacing it entirely in every case not because you want us to but because that’s who we want to be.” I would read this to mean an entirely new silencer & serial number, therefore new Form 4 wait - but this is unconfirmed speculation

Customer service while waiting

• “please don’t annoy us with questions while we are trying to fix it. We don’t have time to explain what is wrong with it. We don’t want to not communicate with you because we don’t love you, we just have so much shit going on in the real world.”
• “We don’t need you to confirm with us that we received your magic wand. You tracked it to us, didn’t you? Ok, then leave us alone, we’ll turn it around as quickly as our work schedule allows. You just do your part, we’ll do ours.”
• “Again, we love you but if you’re disappointed by the fact that we had zero contact with you and won’t engage in 3-4 conversations on email, Instapop or your Mommy’s Facebook account about the status of whatever you’re on about, dry your eyes, Princess. We have Ying and Svetlana on social media to answer your questions, but we don’t have time at CGS’ factory in Area 51. We can either fix your sweet 6″ cherry blaster or we can email back and forth, maybe talk on the phone about your thoughts on advanced material dynamics when we could be working.”

Returns

• “Any new wand blaster that you may wish to return will incur a $300 Restocking Fee, not our fault you get Buyer’s Remorse.”

Defective Product Returns

• “You have had five (5) fucking calendar days to play with your balls and return any defective CAT product from the date you received it. If you send us any CAT product back, it must be in the original packaging, and must be accompanied by your original receipt or proof of purchase, not a note from your Mommy.”
• “Once we receive your defective CAT product, we will inspect it and notify you that we have received your return (with an acknowledgement that we probably fucked it up at our North Korean Sweatshop), so we’re sending you a new one.”

I’m neutral here, just highlighting the key takeaways.

Only thing I wholeheartedly disagree with is the 5-day window to return a defective product… if I’m a weekend warrior & receive a new mount on Monday but I’m not shooting until Sunday, I might not be aware of a defect until I use it. If you send me a defective product, you should be willing to replace it period… at a minimum, you should be open exchanging a defective product within 30 days.

 

[HaydenLane]

Yeah ahhh NOPE!!!!!!!!!

Straight from their website:

Combat Application Technologies (CAT) offers a Lifetime Warranty on all suppressor models against defects in materials and workmanship, and there is no time limit to make a claim. CAT will simply repair, replace or refund any defect suppressor. CAT reserves the right to replace an obsolete suppressor model with a current production model in the same caliber.

CAT’s warranty does not cover suppressor damage resulting from alterations, failure to perform any preventive maintenance, use of inappropriate or defective ammunition, unauthorized repairs, normal wear and tear exceeding 20,000 rounds annually, or actions or events beyond CAT’s reasonable control. CAT understands that certain manufacturers offer an “Unconditional Lifetime Warranty”, and CAT respects a purchaser’s rights to buy a suppressor relevant to their performance and quality needs. Should you be unsure of warranty replacement guidelines in the result of a failure, please contact CAT for further information. In the event that any purchased suppressor is not covered under the Lifetime Warranty exceptions stated above, CAT will arrange to have the suppressor repaired or replaced for a fee of twenty (20) percent of the purchase price, plus the cost of shipping.

 

[pale-horse-idaho]

Straight from their website:

Combat Application Technologies (CAT) offers a Lifetime Warranty on all suppressor models against defects in materials and workmanship, and there is no time limit to make a claim. CAT will simply repair, replace or refund any defect suppressor. CAT reserves the right to replace an obsolete suppressor model with a current production model in the same caliber.

CAT’s warranty does not cover suppressor damage resulting from alterations, failure to perform any preventive maintenance, use of inappropriate or defective ammunition, unauthorized repairs, normal wear and tear exceeding 20,000 rounds annually, or actions or events beyond CAT’s reasonable control. CAT understands that certain manufacturers offer an “Unconditional Lifetime Warranty”, and CAT respects a purchaser’s rights to buy a suppressor relevant to their performance and quality needs. Should you be unsure of warranty replacement guidelines in the result of a failure, please contact CAT for further information. In the event that any purchased suppressor is not covered under the Lifetime Warranty exceptions stated above, CAT will arrange to have the suppressor repaired or replaced for a fee of twenty (20) percent of the purchase price, plus the cost of shipping.

What I posted was "straight off their website" as well. Posted on Reddit a while back.
Looks like the massive blowback got someone to change their policy. Still NOPE!
That was quick! Oh and their website looks some some 101 college gamer coded it. HORRIBLE!

 

[Stugots]

I own an Energetic Armament NYX 22 Mod 2 and a Silencerco Switchback. Of the 2, I prefer the NYX mainly because it is lighter. My buddy owns a Thunder Beast 22 Takedown and a Silencer Central Banish that I have played with. I much prefer the 2 cans that I own to my friends .22 cans.

 

[kthomas]

What I posted was "straight off their website" as well. Posted on Reddit a while back.
Looks like the massive blowback got someone to change their policy. Still NOPE!
That was quick! Oh and their website looks some some 101 college gamer coded it. HORRIBLE!

Their marketing and customer facing communications are definitely off-putting, IMO.

 

[FuhQ]

Their marketing and customer facing communications are definitely off-putting, IMO.

I was interested in one of the CAT cans, but after reading all the negative CS reviews and stuff, definitely won't be putting them near the top of the short-list...

 

[Yondering]

Their marketing and customer facing communications are definitely off-putting, IMO.

I gotta agree with that too.

Sounds like OP bought something already - any update on how it worked out for you? Seems like it's hard to go wrong with the TB options.

Personally I like really light .22 cans to maintain the right balance on pistols; never had a need for full auto ratings or high pressure ratings that add weight and cost (I recall one .22LR suppressor a while back that was even rated for 5.56 - just why??). That started with my old Outback II way back when that was new, at ~3 oz and nice and quiet. Looking at a Warlock 22 now as just an extra since I still have way more hosts than suppressors, and enough kids shooting that I need more. Haven't heard a Warlock in person but like the light weight, similar to my Outback. Anyone here have one?

 

[FuhQ]

I gotta agree with that too.

Sounds like OP bought something already - any update on how it worked out for you? Seems like it's hard to go wrong with the TB options.

Personally I like really light .22 cans to maintain the right balance on pistols; never had a need for full auto ratings or high pressure ratings that add weight and cost (I recall one .22LR suppressor a while back that was even rated for 5.56 - just why??). That started with my old Outback II way back when that was new, at ~3 oz and nice and quiet. Looking at a Warlock 22 now as just an extra since I still have way more hosts than suppressors, and enough kids shooting that I need more. Haven't heard a Warlock in person but like the light weight, similar to my Outback. Anyone here have one?

Go ahead and get one of the TBAC 22TD cans. They’re fairly light, and super quiet. Precision-built cans. I really enjoy my 2.

 

[Yondering]

Go ahead and get one of the TBAC 22TD cans. They’re fairly light, and super quiet. Precision-built cans. I really enjoy my 2.

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Looks like a great can and I appreciate TBAC quality, but at 5.9 oz it's basically double the weight of my old Outback (2.9 oz) or a Warlock (3 oz). I've got no need for a full auto rating on a .22 can. Like I said, I favor light weight cans for a .22 pistol.

This one feels a lot like a stock 22/45 Lite, but it's quiet:

 

[LeftyJason]

Looks like a great can and I appreciate TBAC quality, but at 5.9 oz it's basically double the weight of my old Outback (2.9 oz) or a Warlock (3 oz). I've got no need for a full auto rating on a .22 can. Like I said, I favor light weight cans for a .22 pistol.

This one feels a lot like a stock 22/45 Lite, but it's quiet:

Baffles are ultrasonicable on a 22td. No aluminum.

 

[FuhQ]

Baffles are ultrasonicable on a 22td. No aluminum.

And CLR does a great job cleaning the 22TD baffles with just soaking for 30-60 minutes, not even having to scrub or use the US cleaner. Can’t use either with aluminum or magnesium.

 

[Yondering]

Baffles are ultrasonicable on a 22td. No aluminum.

If you knew how old that Outback II is you could probably guess that I’ve figured out cleaning it a long time ago. It would have been full of carbon at least 3-4 times over by now.

And you can sometimes clean aluminum in US cleaners, if you have some idea of what works and what doesn’t. It’s not the absolute that internet “wisdom” would have you believe; I’ve done it many times with various aluminum parts. It’s really slow for badly fouled .22 suppressor baffles though and I have better methods.

 

[LeftyJason]

If you knew how old that Outback II is you could probably guess that I’ve figured out cleaning it a long time ago. It would have been full of carbon at least 3-4 times over by now.

I looked them up. Original outback '03ish, ob2 '06 ish. Sounds like it is time to upgrade. Not saying get rid of it let it have somewhat of an easier retirement.

 

[Yondering]

I looked them up. Original outback '03ish, ob2 '06 ish. Sounds like it is time to upgrade. Not saying get rid of it let it have somewhat of an easier retirement.

No reason to. It’s lighter than most modern cans and at least as quiet as most. They disappeared when Gemtech switched to their monocore, which sucks bad, and that was done mainly because most people don’t have tools or know how to work on stuff anymore, and the Outback wasn’t originally designed for easy cleaning. Still an awesome can for someone who does.

I’m just looking for a spare, and still have no interest in something that weighs 5-6 oz. There’s no reason I need to put up with a can that heavy for .22, and I certainly don’t need a full auto rating for it. Good for those who do, but I’ll choose something lighter.

I really didn’t come here asking if I should keep using my suppressor. It’s almost like someone who’s been using stuff this long might already know a thing or two about it…