Can you make a take down rifle?

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Could one take a Stiller action and a Manners stock or a AICS stock and make it a take down rifle? How does a rifle barrel attach to the receiver if it's a take down? I'd live detailed information on this. Is it even worth it? Does it compromise accuracy? Do you just cut the stock on half and somehow attach it to the barrel?

like this:
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Any particular reason why? Nemesis makes a complete take down rifle that will fit into your backpack and is guaranteed to be sub MOA out to quite far.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RogueHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Could one take a Stiller action and a Manners stock or a AICS stock and make it a take down rifle? Do you just cut the stock on half and somehow attach it to the barrel?

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Haha, yes just get a Manners and cut it in half.
 
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On a serious note, Manners now makes this stock and will be selling them soon

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Thomas Manners</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a r&d stock that we will have at the shot show this year for the guys that want to stop by and take a look. This one is loaded up so it weighs in about 5.3lbs, it has our mini chassis, badger ERF mount and rail, KMW cheek hardware, our adjustable butt system and a steel hinge that is molded into the stock. Thanks
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LOL I wasn't seriously thinking about just cutting one in half! I'm a guy that likes guns that can be taken down and put away in small storage areas. that's all. Just asked out of curiosity while I look into what stock I'm actually going to buy next week.

are they making the folding one in a left hand?
 
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The part about turning a Stiller action into a break apart/take down would be ridiculous and the stock question of "somehow attach it to the barrel" would have taken a lot of work.

Throw enough money at it (thousands) and someone might try it (doubt it).

I'm not sure on the left hand question.

You can send a private message to Thomas Manners. Enter that name in the user list up top and click on the link. From there you can PM or email him.

If you are seriously in need of a briefcase rifle you might have to look at something that has already been done like DesertHK mentioned.

Have to ask though, why do you want one?

EDIT:

I just noticed the picture you linked is of an airsoft gun, now I strongly suggest REDJACKET and the "Neva Been Dun Befoe" package.
 
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WHY want a rifle that breaks down? Simple answers, some of which actually apply to me personally at the monent:

- Your car has a trunk lid small enough that manouvering a 50" plus rifle through the lid opening is a pain

- You live in an RV where storage space and manouveirng room are both at a premium, and where enclsoed clear storage spaces over 50 inches long are rare and treasured

- You travel with the rifle sometimes, and reserving 50" of clear space in a loaded trunk is hard, and hauling a 50+" piece of baggae into a hotel is both inconvenient and pretty much announces to the world that you have a substantial firearm that is going to be in a relatively poorly secured environment while you go to dinner

- Folding rifle stocks are incredibly expensive, especially when a "factory" option

- Cleaning a rifle on a typical table or workbench is a LOT easier when the assemblies being cleaned are both smaller and weighs less.

Takedown rifles are not a "new" thing. In the 1800s, Winchester made plenty of them. I suspect the reasons for wanting one have not changed dramtically in the last 125 years.

Jim G
 
Re: Can you make a take down rifle?

really depending on one's definition of "take down". nemesis "take down" to a backpack. I was on public transportation with the backpack (and all the goodies inside) and no one care and no one even suspect there is a weapon inside.

On the other hand, I can see that one may not need to "take down" that much. A folder with 20" barrel will be around 30" long. One can probably put that inside a violin case or tennis racquet case and be quite covert.
 
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Certainly HS rifles are top notch, but again if I want to go the take doen and covert approach, I would seriously consider the Nemesis 308. A take down 308 accurate out to 900 yards is hard to beat.
 
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AWC who makes Suppressors, has a custom stocked Remington that has a unique take down feature, I have one - the stock is very cool, made by McMillann. The rifle is what I would consider to be overpriced for what is essentially a factory barreled action - but the concept is interesting.
http://www.awcsystech.com/products/rifles/mp1-bdr/
I had mine worked on by Randy (hateCa) at R&D Precision to make it a more functional rifle - his bottom metal, trigger job, bedding and cut down the barrel to 18" and fitted with his brake which comes off when it gets to wear the matching AWC Thundertrap can. Its a nice little package - for a modern day ninja assassin. For me, It just looks cool in my safe.
 
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I'm pushing 3400 with my current build. I plan to buy the scope next year. can't get everything now which really sucks!

that HS in a left hand would be awesome I wish I had the money.

I have a pretty good setup on the way though. I may end up getting a folding stock from manners.
 
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HS Precision makes a helluva take down rifle. Take a look at their website or google pics. I have had 5 different MULTI caliber SETS in the take downs by HSP and they ALL shot great! I have a 375 HH, 300 Win and a 257 Weatherby all in same case ready for any big game species in the world. Pic calibers on same bolt fact and off you go or they will just make you bolt to go with every front end. CLEANER to have all same bolt face sizes but plenty of room in the Pelican safe.

Stock and action arent the issue as HSP has done them on REM, Win, and ??? til they developed their own action, the 2000 series.

They have a patent on the take down system they developed and it works great.
 
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A 20" rifle with a folding stock is pretty compact.

I won't get into the "need" debate because lord knows I have no need for half the firearms I have.

I look at the H&S type takedown rifles as a gimmick. Even in the professional realm, there isn't a whole lot of roles that rifle can fill that a 16" AI can't.
 
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While not the traditional takedown but you could use a folder stock and get a barrel vice and action wrench and just unscrew the barrel.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Muttt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I still don't get how they keep from blowing the barrel off with something like that????</div></div>

There are several different designs. On some the barrel still threads into the receiver, but with interrupted or coarse threads to speed assembly. On others like the one pictured above, the bolt locks into a barrel extension (think AR).
 
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I haven't seen photos of one in a long time, but Tac Ops makes or used to make a break down rifle with an accuracy guarantee for repeatable zero. I think it was the Charlie-45, and the Charlie-51. I have no experience with the rifles, just remember thinking it was interesting when I saw photos of it.