Car Batteries -- Looking for some Hider info!
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I bet you put walmart right out of biz . Like they need a cry ass pud bringing back a battery after having it installed in a piece of shit that kills batteries . Moron
One of the largest contributors to the reduced battery life is using all recycled lead. You can refine recycled to a certain point, but never return its properties to compare to virgin lead. The refiners are going to a "good enough" point. I have spent a bunch of time dealing with power station backup batteries which have mostly been all GNB or Deka flooded lead acid. We only get virgin lead batteries for our application which we have more issues with jars cracking then the batteries loosing capacity, they do get maintained at 78 degrees all the time.
I have Odysseys in the truck, and 10 pieces of heavy equipment. They have been doing good. My 4 runner and wifes SUV both have walmart batteries (Johnson Controls) because there open 24hrs a day. Like others have said there are really only 3-4 choices of batteries
I have Odysseys in the truck, and 10 pieces of heavy equipment. They have been doing good. My 4 runner and wifes SUV both have walmart batteries (Johnson Controls) because there open 24hrs a day. Like others have said there are really only 3-4 choices of batteries
Any deep cycle use is better with an AGM battery, because they aren't damaged like a conventional lead acid battery by being discharged. I.E ran until they are dead.
Belt and suspenders. And btw: I do drive a raggedy old truck with a manual transmission!!
Johnson Controls, Stryten and East Penn. Johnson has more than half the market. Brand labels are meaningless.
Ground loop.
Avoid Optima, there was a time, sadly not any more.
I use cheap batteries generally get 4-6 years.
I have a theroy that its not the batteries, its the voltage regulator on alternators improperly charging and killing them prematurely. Who builds modern alternators.... No tangible evidence, just a theory.
Avoid Optima, there was a time, sadly not any more.
I use cheap batteries generally get 4-6 years.
I have a theroy that its not the batteries, its the voltage regulator on alternators improperly charging and killing them prematurely. Who builds modern alternators.... No tangible evidence, just a theory.
I still like Optima batteries, and use them on the few "old" cars I have left.
The maintainer I like is the good ole battery tender, if you have several cars they have models that will charge several cars at once. I also have these on my tractors, zero turn, and other "battery" start things.
Some cars get "cheap shit" batteries, my rail buggy (a vw sand rail) clearly a toy has a cheapo $139 wally world battery and has for 3 years now, sits out in an unheated shop all year long and this year gave the same service it always has, it is also on a battery tender.
At one time I was very heavy in "cars" and had 24 lic, insured, driving cars. Today the "toy" card are down to about 4 plus a couple bikes. Back surgery will slow you down a bit. I had a few 6v applications and a few that had 2x 6v batteries and used the Optima for those. When the 63 beetle gets done I have not made the decision yet to go 12 or 6.
Personally I think having the maintainer is the best thing in the world for keeping a battery happy, and having a good one that will not cook batteries is a must.
The maintainer I like is the good ole battery tender, if you have several cars they have models that will charge several cars at once. I also have these on my tractors, zero turn, and other "battery" start things.
Some cars get "cheap shit" batteries, my rail buggy (a vw sand rail) clearly a toy has a cheapo $139 wally world battery and has for 3 years now, sits out in an unheated shop all year long and this year gave the same service it always has, it is also on a battery tender.
At one time I was very heavy in "cars" and had 24 lic, insured, driving cars. Today the "toy" card are down to about 4 plus a couple bikes. Back surgery will slow you down a bit. I had a few 6v applications and a few that had 2x 6v batteries and used the Optima for those. When the 63 beetle gets done I have not made the decision yet to go 12 or 6.
Personally I think having the maintainer is the best thing in the world for keeping a battery happy, and having a good one that will not cook batteries is a must.
Because southeast Texas exists. Used to live in Spring Texas.
Same issues. 2-3 years of use until I bought the same Interstate deep cycle I use in my boat. 8 years and still going in my 2013 GMC Sierra.
If you mean for vehicles not driven often, "Battery Tender" is somewhat of the standard but I've been using these for a while and they work just as well. We have many vehicles in our family.
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Its an 05. It now has 329,000 miles on it, and I beat the everlasting dick fuck out of it. Dick. Fuck. Alaska, MT, OR, Moab. Didn't give a shit and all all of that and came back for more.
It is about done with its pansie grocery getter life. I'm going to replace the engine since it has started smoking finally (dick fuck out of it), and probably cut the whole top off, remove the doors, put in a roll cage and a turret ring and a bulletproof windscreen and make it my desert rat type truck. Like this one:
In new cars there is a lot of parasitic loads placed on the battery. If you are going to let your car sit for any length of time put it on a charger. I have good luck with Odyssey batteries. They are TPPL (Thin plate pure lead) and that helps to increase their life span. Also, they can sit on the shelf for 2 years before needing to be charged, then put into service.
The car battery industry has always used recycled lead from the industrial batteries sector which use virgin lead for longer life. Car batteries are produce to be cheap and replaceable. When auto manufacturers look to save money they cut cost on the batteries. Companies like Exide will make Motorcraft batteries for Ford and make them as cheap as possible which means using more or all recycled lead to keep cost down. Most car owners will just put in the same OEM battery, so the battery manufacturers still make money for years to come.
To help your batteries last longer try and keep you car out of direct sunlight when not in use, heat kills battery life. Charge your battery periodically with the correct battery charger for your battery, wet cell, VRLA or lithium.
The car battery industry has always used recycled lead from the industrial batteries sector which use virgin lead for longer life. Car batteries are produce to be cheap and replaceable. When auto manufacturers look to save money they cut cost on the batteries. Companies like Exide will make Motorcraft batteries for Ford and make them as cheap as possible which means using more or all recycled lead to keep cost down. Most car owners will just put in the same OEM battery, so the battery manufacturers still make money for years to come.
To help your batteries last longer try and keep you car out of direct sunlight when not in use, heat kills battery life. Charge your battery periodically with the correct battery charger for your battery, wet cell, VRLA or lithium.
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Hit or miss in my experience. Just changed my gator battery that was 5 years old and abused. Garage kept, heavy start stop use, with a few swimming and one rollover lesson
My jeep is less than 2 years old and I’ve had two issues with the battery. Garage kept and hardly abused.
My jeep is less than 2 years old and I’ve had two issues with the battery. Garage kept and hardly abused.
Don’t get me started on boat batteries.
Have 4 in my boat, seems as though I have to replace at least 2 a year.
Have 4 in my boat, seems as though I have to replace at least 2 a year.
do like my local CDRJ service dept and switch things up by connecting + to - and - to + next time you install a battery.
I use 110 for that… 220 in Euro black sites. Phone magneto in Africa where there is no power….My only question to the OP is who's nuts does he plan on hooking up the car battery to?
Someone really needs to develop a solar version…
Sirhr
Like, everything closed, all locked, and still has that drain after about 15 minutes? There’s definitely something wrong if that’s the case
most of the amp loss comes from the isolator (400MAs). I can disconnect the line that goes to it, and my parasitic loss drops to 100MAs
Genuine Cole Hersee Smart Battery Isolator 200A 48530
not sure why the Isolator pulls so many mAs. I realize that it's always on, but you'd think it wouldn't be that high. I'm unable to find a spec on line to verify what the parasitic loss should be using this product; but I know mine's around 400mA.
Anything “smart” will have a draw if it’s not part of the original equipment. This is a Mercedes spec so take that into consideration: mA draws should not be more than about 50mA. Depending on the specific truck you’re talking about, the current draw shouldn’t be too hard to find. Or you can leave it alone if you don’t have any concerns about it…
What do you have on in there?
This is the draw on our patrol cars with everything on, but nothing being used, no radio being used, camera on but not recording, printer on but not printing, no radar on.
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I've got a Mercedes battery in my E-250 that is going on 5 years old.
My experience as of late is:
1) Interstate battery I got from interstate...sucked. It's still working; but I've used my battery restoration charger (CTEK) and keep it on trickle (NOCO Genius) since it was 2 years old. Anytime whether dips to 40's it's a crap shoot.
2) VW branded battery which I believe is from NARVA is excellent in that car. No problems (knock on wood). It's a gel cell I believe or maybe just sealed.
3) Northstar is THE battery now but very pricey. What Optima used to be!!!
4) Braille if you're really into spending money; but mixed results from what I've read.
1) Interstate battery I got from interstate...sucked. It's still working; but I've used my battery restoration charger (CTEK) and keep it on trickle (NOCO Genius) since it was 2 years old. Anytime whether dips to 40's it's a crap shoot.
2) VW branded battery which I believe is from NARVA is excellent in that car. No problems (knock on wood). It's a gel cell I believe or maybe just sealed.
3) Northstar is THE battery now but very pricey. What Optima used to be!!!
4) Braille if you're really into spending money; but mixed results from what I've read.
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Oh and I got to put TWO new batteries in my jeep today. Did I mention it’s only 1-1/2 years old?
Yes sir, I’ve noticed it with all batteries, literally. I was wondering if anyone else would point it out. Driving me insane.
See my experience is the opposite. Every damn time I put my shit I trickle charge over winter, I have to replace them the following spring. If I don’t put it on trickle charge then it’s a crap shoot but they fire up more so than not when compared to the ones on charge all winter. I know that sounds crazy but I was talking to my neighbor and he has the same issue with his bikes. It’s very strange.
Infiniti Q30 (German manufacture) also has 2 batteries. Pain in the ass to do a parasitic drain test on. Newer cars have computers that control generator output, and they haven't worked the bugs out yet. If you make a lot of short trips, it never charges the battery. New battery chemistry is also getting very finicky; they are engineering for a best case scenario that doesn't happen in the real world. I worked in the industry, and it is becoming a BIG customer satisfaction problem.
If things are being put away for the winter/season, disconnect the positive cable/clamp. Also, don't forget to check liquid levels before 'putting them up' because there is/can be evaporation. Top off only with distilled water. (some use de-ionized, but they both taste the same to me)
Did not read through reply’s. We have work trucks, tractors, SxS’s and are always buying batteries. Guy I know in battery business said the recycled lead in new batteries does not have the life of new lead. Take that for what its worth???
