Clear bias in history books-high school/college

[postmabail]

I was doing my reading today for my DC history and ran across this you can read my expert from my mandatory notes to my professor which I talked about what I felts was clearly one sided. I get a history book can never be completely unbiased as a human interaction with it had to happen at some point. However this just felt very out in the open. This happened earlier in the year too with a chapter on President grant I can also post my notes to that if anyone is interested. My professor has not once commented on what I said to him despite giving me 100% on all my notes for the class. I am thinking most people my age just read over this and don’t think twice and the subtle hints and jabs here in there will eventually create problems down the road. I am by no means a history buff this was just my honest observation from my reading material. And I’m bored in an airport with a 5 hr layover so I got all the time to make a post like this

 

[charliehorse27]

That’s pretty interesting he didn’t comment on any of the notes. He probably hasn’t read the book himself!

 

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So in any text....there is going to be misleading, biased, or just flat out wrong information.....hell, i see it in books about steel and machining sciences....you are damn sure going to see it in history books.

the job the professor should be doing is calling out any blatantly biased or misleading information in the texts.

if they are doing their job properly, the primary roll of the professor should be to facilitate the learning of Facts.....and let students form their own opinions.

now there is a roll for the professors opinions on the matter....and hell, even the authors opinions on the matter.....but they should be prefaced before hand that they are, in fact, just opinions.......especially when you are in a roll of authority, its really easy to present your biases and opinions as facts.


but we are all guilty of it to some extent.....hell, to this day i tell my students that if they ever design a product with Phillips head screws, that God hates them and they will in all likelihood go to hell....like i said, we all have our biases.

 

[Maggot]

So in any text....there is going to be misleading, biased, or just flat out wrong information.....hell, i see it in books about steel and machining sciences....you are damn sure going to see it in history books.

the job the professor should be doing is calling out any blatantly biased or misleading information in the texts.

if they are doing their job properly, the primary roll of the professor should be to facilitate the learning of Facts.....and let students form their own opinions.

now there is a roll for the professors opinions on the matter....and hell, even the authors opinions on the matter.....but they should be prefaced before hand that they are, in fact, just opinions.......especially when you are in a roll of authority, its really easy to present your biases and opinions as facts.


but we are all guilty of it to some extent.....hell, to this day i tell my students that if they ever design a product with Phillips head screws, that God hates them and they will go to hell....like i said, we all have our biases.

Agreed, I hate Phillip's head and straight are even worse. Torx rule.

 

[DRandi]

So in any text....there is going to be misleading, biased, or just flat out wrong information.....hell, i see it in books about steel and machining sciences....you are damn sure going to see it in history books.

the job the professor should be doing is calling out any blatantly biased or misleading information in the texts.

if they are doing their job properly, the primary roll of the professor should be to facilitate the learning of Facts.....and let students form their own opinions.

now there is a roll for the professors opinions on the matter....and hell, even the authors opinions on the matter.....but they should be prefaced before hand that they are, in fact, just opinions.......especially when you are in a roll of authority, its really easy to present your biases and opinions as facts.


but we are all guilty of it to some extent.....hell, to this day i tell my students that if they ever design a product with Phillips head screws, that God hates them and they will in all likelihood go to hell....like i said, we all have our biases.

Agreed, I hate Phillip's head and straight are even worse. Torx rule.

As someone who spins fasteners for a living, I agree wholeheartedly. Inverted Torx also rock. Much more positive fastener engagement to tool than hex.

Speaking of retarded fasteners.... ran across this one years ago. Metric machine thread bolt with tamper proof stud and 5 points like a Torx only not. Also in a recessed hole and the only bit available is for a nut driver.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

While I won't deny that there are definitely places fit for Torx, you all know that Robertson are the bestest!

 

[DRandi]

While I won't deny that there are definitely places fit for Torx, you all know that Robertson are the bestest!

No! Just fucking no!!! Take that dam shit and get the fuck out!!! I actually own a Robertson S0 drive bit, and fuck you again!!!!

 

[DRandi]

Fucking 0.062” square drive.... shit fucking strips out just looking at it

 

[pmclaine]

Thank you for being a critical thinker.

The text book looks to be written at a 6th grade level unfortunately, the barest of mentions regarding the most complex of problems.

How come when My Lai is mentioned we only get Calleys name not Hugh Clowers Thompson Jr?

Cambodia wasnt first violated by the US, North Vietnam made it a target when Cambodia refused or couldn't enforce its neutrality.

Continue to question and dont consume the product if you think it is bullshit.

Being educated is as much about what you reject as what you consume.

Marketing is for scoundrels

 

[DRandi]

Sarcasm off, liked the video.

In all seriousness, personally it’s not that I dislike square drive, Phillips, or even flats. It’s that manufactures come up with new boneheaded ways of implementation. Hell I’ve had to cut out more Torx than I can remember.

Latest and greatest stupid engineering screw call out I dealt with. Sunroof guide rail has four M5x.9mm screws torqued to 3nm, but with a T15 Torx head! For those who don’t know. A M5 screw is one size larger than the T25 Torx screws on most scope rings for perspective.

So a T15 Torx driver head that’s two time smaller than a T25, on a screw one size larger than a T25, yet same torque spec.... fun as a technician.

 

[E. Bryant]

I only did a quick search, but couldn't find much political bias in a small sample of my college texts:

I'll keep looking, though - certainly there is some political bias that I'm just not seeing.

Oh, and Torx Plus is where it's at:

 

[DRandi]

Mess with any spline drives yet? Fit on 6, 12, and Torx in a pinch.

 

[DRandi]

 

[pmclaine]

I only did a quick search, but couldn't find much political bias in a small sample of my college texts:

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I'll keep looking, though - certainly there is some political bias that I'm just not seeing.

Oh, and Torx Plus is where it's at:

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Nerd.....

 

[E. Bryant]

Nerd.....

I went to a school with a 3:1 ratio of men to women, and came back home with my future wife. So that means I was better-adjusted than about 70% of my male classmates. On second thought, this really doesn't refute your claim.

One of the SocSci classes I had to take was "Ethics in Engineering". It pretty much came down to "generally don't hurt or kill people with your work, unless that's what you intended to do in which case please do your job well". This was fairly progressive stuff, considering the number of my professors that considered Hammurabi to be a bit too liberal for their tastes.