Comey Testimony - What's Your Takeaway?

[Tucker301]

My thoughts:

1. Comey got his ego all blown up when 60 Minutes wrapped him in Captain Murica bunting and placed him on the Rushmore waiting list. That was when they liked him for not signing off on Bush era wiretapping orders, before they wanted him fired for implying wrong-doing by Holy Hillary, before they were outraged over Trump firing him for being flaky as fuck. He is self-important, and even though he said otherwise in testimony, he believes himself to be a shining beacon of truth of justice in a sewer of corruption and injustice.


2. His pre-testimony memo was brilliant. He got valuable feedback on what it would take for him to be indicted or not for felonies for not presenting damning evidence of the president obstructing justice. Put it out there, and see what the sharks make of it. Smart.

3. His future book promotion tour is off to a Helluva start. I mean that in the most malicious and accusatory way possible. I think he had sensationalism and controversy selling books in the back of his mind on every action and answer.

4. The swamp don't want to be drained, and the enemy of an enemy is indeed a friend. This is a bi-partisan effort to control or completely remove Trump.

 

[1J04]

He plays the game very well. He scares me. Literally. Haven't seen it, don't know if I can stomach it, but I gotta try when I get home. I have no doubt your assessment is accurate, even if you are a bit sloppy.

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

sirhrmechanic where are ya, I wanna see your thoughts to this one.

Mr Tucker, are you saying Comey is a ally with the enemy of an enemy = friend statement?

 

[Cartman]

In my opinion he's a dirty cop.

He listed all the elements of an Espionage Act felony by HRC, then acted ultra vires of his roll as head of an investigative agency and usurped the roll of prosecuter in determining she should not be prosecuted because she did not commit certain actions that congress did NOT include as required elements of the crime.

Crooked, in my opinion.

I haven't read his testimony today. But I did hear about his opening statement yesterday. Sounds like he's bending his Flynn statement like a reed in the wind. Flynn did not commit a crime in talking to the Russians. Now we're down to an administrative issue of a box on a form not being marked in a timely fashion. Nothing burger.

Anything and everything to bring down this administration while giving the real crimes of previous office holders a pass.

Hasn't Comey already had to "clarify" three separate testimonies? He sounds like an unreliable witness.

I just saw a headline that Comey admits he leaked. In my opinion it's high time former Secretaries of State and FBI directors are no longer too big to jail.

I felt that during the BH0 occupation this country was more and more like a banana republic. Seeing an active, slow-motion, coup going on -- with representatives of both parties sitting on their hands -- I feel like I wasn't far off.

 

[Tucker301]

sirhrmechanic
Mr Tucker, are you saying Comey is a ally with the enemy of an enemy = friend statement?

I'm saying that all the Ds and most of the Rs are equally threatened by what Mr. Trump has brought to Washington, so the only collusion in play is their shared desire to break him.

 

[Tucker301]

Late development: "A Columbia University law professor and close friend of former FBI director James Comey has confirmed he leaked contents of one of Comey’s memos to The New York Times."
Now I'm no law professor, but I'm thinking that qualifies Comey for criminal charges on sharing FBI information about an active investigation with someone outside the government.

 

[fdkay]

Several telling things here.
As Rubio pointed out, the ONLY thing NOT leaked was the fact that Trump, himself, was not being investigated.
Odd, that he kept detailed notes of any conversation with Trump, but NONE in conversations with Obama and Clinton.
He was able to determine there was NO criminal intent in regards to HRC, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, but he is unable to come to a conclusion if obstruction was committed and that needs to be resolved with a special investigator.
Admits that Lynch interfered with his investigation, going as far as instructing him to refer to it as a "matter".

 

[sirhrmechanic]

 

[Tucker301]

 

[sirhrmechanic]

When you drain a swamp, every piece of pre-cambrian shit, lizard, reptile, slime-dwelling fuck comes out of the ooze and tries to bite you, sting you, infect you and otherwise kill you... from gators to leeches.

Today... we saw the slime-creatures rising from the lagoon... and they ain't just gunning for Trump. They want the heads of us Deplorables.

The peaceful attempt, indeed. And so it will remain the peaceful attempt. Until it is time to not be.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

 

[Tucker301]

And whatever the fuck this was.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Casper has lost his shit more than Leahy has... Leahy is now completely batshit crazy, demented alzheimer'd to the point of drooling on his own chin 24 x 7... but his staff can wind him up and point him at the far left button to vote for. Casper (who I really respected and met several times) has just gone completely drool-happy on us.

Guess the two cancel each other out at this point. One batshit crazy Republican... one Batshit crazy leftist progressive, commie, leaking, getting-our-assets-killed-with-his-big-mouth turd burglar...

Man I miss the days of Jesse Helms. He was batshit crazy. But in a good way. Mostly.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Michael]

This will get me on any watch list not previously subscribed to.

It is becoming increasingly clear that congress will have to be destroyed.
The founding fathers set a trap for us here in what is now the future, insuring that changing the participants en masse could not be accomplished. Their intent was to forestall destabilization but 200 some odd years later the actual effects are catastrophic.
Comey is just a symptom of the larger and insurmountable problem.

 

[Jethro3898]

Here is what I took away:

1. Comey wrote memos detailing his conversations with people he doesn't like, not with people he does. That should speak volumes as to his intent.
2. Memos are nothing more than his interpretation of events. They should be subject to scrutiny, interpretation and opinion, not taken as courtroom stenography. His memos are not a record of fact. Note that his memos cast his participation in each conversation in the best possible light and that Trump was creepy and underhanded.
3. If (and I do mean if) the memos are true and perfectly factual, Trump simply hasn't yet grasped (or had not grasped at the time the meetings took place) that Washington isn't New York. EVERYthing you say (even in private) is subject to scrutiny and disection to the Nth degree. Anything he says can apparently be regurgitated and twisted if someone so desires. He needs to choose his words more carefully and possibly even bite his tongue.
4. Comey said that Trump's statements about the disarray at the FBI, the morale and Comey's leadership of the FBI after he fired him were lies. Actually, Mr. Comey, those are called opinions and even Donald Trump is allowed to have them......even if you don't agree with them. I could tell James Comey his wife is ugly (hypothetical as I have never seen her) and he could get pissed and call it a lie. Just because she is pretty to him doesn't mean she is pretty to me. Same goes for the FBI not being run efficiently or the morale being low. He can call it a lie all he wants, but it is an opinion and the president has a right to express that opinion as the comments are were subjective.
5. It is almost as if Comey gave both ends of the spectrum just enough talking points to ensure that when one door was closed, another one was cracked open to be chewed on by the talking heads.....and the circle jerk will still continue.

 

[Cartman]

I just read Pat's column and he too references a coup and third world banana republics.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/06/the-impeach-trump-conspiracy/

 

[Rthur]

And whatever the fuck this was.

Is this a direct quote?
If so shit heal has delirium.

R

 

[jrassy]

As soon as he said he was shocked by what he heard(comey) and had no comeback , I was done, fuck him. How many years as a prosecution attorney? If I did my job half as bad.....

 

[Xshot]

In the big picture Comey came off as a whiny, treacherous little bitch. I'm sure he's thinking it didn't go as he intended. He revealed too much about his nefarious SOP.

 

[Alphatreedog]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it looks like both sides cut a deal . Comey clears Trump and Trump doesn't give Comey a boyfriend in Club Fed . The left gets to walk away and doesn't have it's membership decimated for now . Maxine waters and a few other noise boxes will keep squawkin but it's done. . They will still resist in the legislature and still press on with the slow boil of we frogs in a pot but for now truce . I wonder how Comey's suicide note will read ?

 

[Tucker301]

Is this a direct quote?
If so shit heal has delirium.

R

It's close.

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[FS1]

If the Swamp takes down Trump I do believe it will get real ugly real fast.

Trumps lawyer says the NYT was quoting from memo before Comey said he leaked them. If True I think Trump intercepted the leak from Comey through intel. Then he tweeted Better be sure there are no tapes. Comey has been the leaker and just got busted. Mueller meeting with Comey was about leaks not Obstruction. Comey told Congress the truth about leaks because the lie to the FBI is always worse than the crime. And he told Mueller the Truth so he had to tell Congress. Just a theory.

Mueller's relationship to Comey gives me a lot of concern. Comey has proven He has some weasel qualities. Lets hope the FBI is not a bunch weasels too.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it looks like both sides cut a deal . Comey clears Trump and Trump doesn't give Comey a boyfriend in Club Fed . The left gets to walk away and doesn't have it's membership decimated for now . Maxine waters and a few other noise boxes will keep squawkin but it's done. . They will still resist in the legislature and still press on with the slow boil of we frogs in a pot but for now truce . I wonder how Comey's suicide note will read ?

It looked that way until Trump's lawyer filed a complaint against Comey late yesterday...

Comey is part of the swamp. He was bred there... grew up there... learned how to navigate, survive and thrive there. Part of the problem? You betcha. By the time you get to be supergrade, with very, very few exceptions, you are so captured by the system as to be willing to do anything to defend it. Because without the swamp... your million dollar mansion in Potomoc and your Jaguar and your security detail and your tickets to the Kennedy Center and your lucrative teaching job when you retire and... and.... and.... all goes away.

And the private sector requires actual.... results. So most of these folks could not last a week.

The swamp is fighting back with every tooth nail and claw it has. It's survival for these folks. Do you really think K-Street lobbying firms where starting salaries are 1/4 mil a year are just going to say "Oh, we're done. Guess we'll open a Jiffy Lube in Iowa or go sell Buicks?" Will the lawyers, accountants, consultants, pollsters and, daresay, journalists... let go? Not on your life. It is the 'faraway capital' from the Hunger Games. Hedonism run amok in a sea of wealth pillaged from the districts. Like Kim Jong nutball, these people will push the national destruct button before they will give up their perks.

IMHO, this is the last shot we have at dialing thing back from the brink without massive cataclysm. Can it be done? Yes. Is Trump the guy for the job? I hope so. Because there ain't anyone else on the horizon, is there?

Great thoughts for a weekend...

Oh and Theresa May stepped on her tits, didn't she? Sorry to our Brit members. But she's no Iron Lady.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[vh20]

Sirhr - was busy farming all day yesterday and missed what you reference with May. I heard she won re-election, but lost party-control of Parliament. What is the gaff you are referring to?

 

[knockemdown]

Re: comey's firing...timing was everything. The good guys knew comey had devious 'cards' up his sleeve to play, so they wouldn't act until those cards could be assessed & neutralized...

Remember back & notice how comey got fired when he was out on the west coast, giving some erroneous speech???
That was to insure that, as soon as comey's termination was official, the DOJ could roll into his office with overwhelming surprise & confiscate his computer(s) and locate any other 'cards' he had stashed to play against Pres. Trump. Hit fast, hit hard, and overwhelm the opposition. That's what DOJ did, and that's why comey got fired while on the other side of the country, he had no easy means to contact the 'swamp' for reinforcements. Before he, or the 'swamp' knew it, The 'good guys' had executed a devastating blow. That's why they were so pissed about comey's firing. A major 'swamp' player was now effectively removed from the table, and his hand of cards turned over for all to see...

And those seemingly 'silly' tweets about "he better not have tapes"? IMHO, those were actually veiled messages from Pres. Trump to comey & swamp co. that DOJ was now in possession of his hidden deck. Think about it, why else would Pres. Trump tweet such blather??? He did it to prove to the 'swamp' exactly what just happened, and that HE had the goods now!

Alas, comey was forced to use the 'memo' narrative as a means to explain why he had been compiling dirt against Pres. Trump. IMHO, he transcribed his 'memos' from his memory of illegal surveillance tapes taken of his meetings/phone calls w/ Pres. Trump. Surveillance that was done in an effort to get Pres. Trump to say something 'illegal' on tape & therefore be used to remove him from the White House. Thankfully, that didn't happen, and thankfully, the DOJ was able to acquire & therefore negate many of the swamp's dirty hidden cards in comey's hand...

Subsequently, comey is now short stacked & has precious few cards to play, so he goes out on a limb and 'leaked' his "memos" to the press, in a feeble effort to remain at the table of power. Given the fact that Pres. Trump was never caught doing/saying anything that was actually, "illegal", this bullshit narrative that comey is now telling is all he has to play with. Needless to say, the odds of Pres. Trump being impeached on that alone, is now a pipe dream. But that won't stop the 'swamp', they'll keep diggin' in the mud until they can't climb out of their own hole...

Could be way off, but that's my take!

 

[FS1]

They spied on and investigated Trump with the FBI, NSA, CIA and maybe GCHQ. They got nothing. Think about that. Trump must be a pretty clean Hombre to withstand that. How many others in DC do you think could survive that? That's how the Deep State gets all in DC to roll over and be their chump. Compromise them and they will do what ever it takes to keep it out of the NYT and WAPO.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

May should have gained seats and stomped that commie Bernie-wanna-be. Instead she ran a crappy campaign and let some idiot policy wonk put what became called a "Dementia Tax" in their platform... and all the old people who should have voted tory voted commie... So she keeps her seat (IMHO, she'll resign within a few weeks) but in a coalition government, not a majority. Which is going to be bad for her.

So the last bastion of capitalism in a socialist EU is on the tipping point of going back to 1940's communist labour party government. Good thing the pound is down. I like buying toys from England.

Hello, Holland and Holland? About that gun I've wanted to order....

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[supercorndogs]

Re: comey's firing...timing was everything. The good guys knew comey had devious 'cards' up his sleeve to play, so they wouldn't act until those cards could be assessed & neutralized...

Remember back & notice how comey got fired when he was out on the west coast, giving some erroneous speech???
That was to insure that, as soon as comey's termination was official, the DOJ could roll into his office with overwhelming surprise & confiscate his computer(s) and locate any other 'cards' he had stashed to play against Pres. Trump. Hit fast, hit hard, and overwhelm the opposition. That's what DOJ did, and that's why comey got fired while on the other side of the country, he had no easy means to contact the 'swamp' for reinforcements. Before he, or the 'swamp' knew it, The 'good guys' had executed a devastating blow. That's why they were so pissed about comey's firing. A major 'swamp' player was now effectively removed from the table, and his hand of cards turned over for all to see...

And those seemingly 'silly' tweets about "he better not have tapes"? IMHO, those were actually veiled messages from Pres. Trump to comey & swamp co. that DOJ was now in possession of his hidden deck. Think about it, why else would Pres. Trump tweet such blather??? He did it to prove to the 'swamp' exactly what just happened, and that HE had the goods now!

Alas, comey was forced to use the 'memo' narrative as a means to explain why he had been compiling dirt against Pres. Trump. IMHO, he transcribed his 'memos' from his memory of illegal surveillance tapes taken of his meetings/phone calls w/ Pres. Trump. Surveillance that was done in an effort to get Pres. Trump to say something 'illegal' on tape & therefore be used to remove him from the White House. Thankfully, that didn't happen, and thankfully, the DOJ was able to acquire & therefore negate many of the swamp's dirty hidden cards in comey's hand...

Subsequently, comey is now short stacked & has precious few cards to play, so he goes out on a limb and 'leaked' his "memos" to the press, in a feeble effort to remain at the table of power. Given the fact that Pres. Trump was never caught doing/saying anything that was actually, "illegal", this bullshit narrative that comey is now telling is all he has to play with. Needless to say, the odds of Pres. Trump being impeached on that alone, is now a pipe dream. But that won't stop the 'swamp', they'll keep diggin' in the mud until they can't climb out of their own hole...

Could be way off, but that's my take!

And hopefully expose to more people, what they really are.

 

[Alphatreedog]

Saw Pelosi runnin her mouth talkin more shit about Trump . Somebody needs to spray that bitch with Hly Water and watch the fickin hag melt .Maybe she could just spontaneously combust whil sixty nining with Feinstein . Could happen right .

 

[Tims]

Comey is a dirty cop. Trump should have fired him on day one. Unfortunately, we haven't the last of him.

 

[Gunga]

We the People need to push back against the establishment interests that want to take down a lawfully elected president. The push back needs to start before the corrupt politicians in DC unseat the man we voted into office.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

He reminded me of Nately's whore's kid sister.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Next time I'm in DC (...in your dreams...), I'll try and refrain from sitting in any chairs with low backs. The better to avoid being stabbed....

Greg

 

[Greg Langelius *]

When you spray her with that holy water, please don't do it here in Arizona; we're already on a severe fire watch...

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I told us all few years back that Democracy was a failed experiment, but folks just on keep trying to push that dead donkey....; somebody's bound to kiss that donkey...

I'm not looking to get anything started; at my age, I'd just be in the way anyway. But I 'spect I'll get to see some unique new perspectives pretty soon, now...

Greg

 

[Alphatreedog]

I would love to see a Conservative Constitutionalist Party . Yeah a third party that represents the interest of America , it's people and the Constitution . Sadly I don't know if enough people would get behind this or still vote the lesser of two evils . Now would be the time to start groomong a Trey Gowdy and his VP and cabinet picks . I mean balls to the wall WarCampaign no effin stone unturned campaign . And yeah I know there is work to be done in the midterms but we really need to start thinking three election cycles ahead . This is election Jiu Jitsu .

 

[Niles Coyote]

I'd rather see no party and where the primary decides the final few to run for the general election and 2nd place is the VP... Rand Paul and Ted Cruz would have been sweet.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

I would love to see a Conservative Constitutionalist Party . Yeah a third party that represents the interest of America , it's people and the Constitution . Sadly I don't know if enough people would get behind this or still vote the lesser of two evils . Now would be the time to start groomong a Trey Gowdy and his VP and cabinet picks . I mean balls to the wall WarCampaign no effin stone unturned campaign . And yeah I know there is work to be done in the midterms but we really need to start thinking three election cycles ahead . This is election Jiu Jitsu .

I hear you, and lean towards agreeing with you, except for one issue. Look towards the Canuckian way of doing things political, to see the unbenefits of a "more than two party" election. Ya'll may not have the perfectest system, but there ARE worse systems.

Holding the elected AND the appointed to responsibility,,, now there's a concept, eh?

 

[Threadcutter308]

I would love to see a Conservative Constitutionalist Party . Yeah a third party that represents the interest of America , it's people and the Constitution . Sadly I don't know if enough people would get behind this or still vote the lesser of two evils . Now would be the time to start groomong a Trey Gowdy and his VP and cabinet picks . I mean balls to the wall WarCampaign no effin stone unturned campaign . And yeah I know there is work to be done in the midterms but we really need to start thinking three election cycles ahead . This is election Jiu Jitsu .

Gowdy!, hell yeah!!!!

Straight up guy, a model for what the rest of all the politicians in DC should aspire to be (but sadly, will never achieve....).

 

[W54/XM-388]

I'd rather see no party and where the primary decides the final few to run for the general election and 2nd place is the VP... Rand Paul and Ted Cruz would have been sweet.

And then you would get exactly California where all future elections will be only 2 democrats up for election.

The reason you DON'T do it that way is to keep one populist party from being the only choice in the elections.

You won't ever have no parties... they have been around since the dawn of politics.

 

[Alphatreedog]

Another thing that I would like to see is contractcs between the candidate and the people . Hold these fucks responsible. Funny that we would even need to consider that as there are laws and a Constitution to do just that .

 

[FS1]

Do any of you legal minds know if conspiring to undermine the sitting president is a crime? When Comey gave that memo to Richman to harm the Pres and force the appointment of a special counsel. Is that a Conspiracy?

 

[sirhrmechanic]

^^^ Interesting question.

Also add to that the fact that his leaks were selective. He leaked the stuff that made Trump look like he applied pressure... but he did not leak the fact that Trump was not under investigation for collusion, etc.

There is an article about Muller's 'legal firepower' and the team he is assembling. It's some very, very heavy hitters who know how to get prosecutions. But my question is... are they going to use that power to go after the Trump Administration... or is the investigation going to lead right back to the last administration, the FBI, the State Dept, the NSA, etc. Muller is no partisan. He will go after dirt wherever he finds it. Is the alt.left prepared for people like Lynch, Jarrett, Hillary, Clapper, Podesta... and on and on and on... to be subpoenaed, deposed and then... have their stories all check out?

Methinks this whole thing may turn into the biggest plug getting pulled out of the swamp-bottom so lots of nasty creatures can swirl around the drain on their way out. Certainly hope so!

As for undermining... my opinion is that it would be hard to make that stick as a crime... though a good attorney, to steal a phrase, 'can indict a ham sandwich.' I think the crime would be in leaking a document that, on the basis of the fact that it was a conversation with a sitting president and was written by the FBI director, possibly related to a criminal matter... makes it automatically classified, whether so marked or not. Isn't everything that the FBI Director and President discuss related to official investigations, by nature, classified? If that is the standard, IMHO, you have a case.

It's only going to get more interesting!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[pmclaine]

Too smart by half.

The swamp is boxing itself into a corner as it fights the draining.

The media and investigation panels too conveniently don't ask the most obvious questions to ask in order to legitimize the farce of the investigation.

I don't have high expectations for it to be drained and the failure will confirm what has been known - we are a third world banana republic with some pretty wrapping on the exterior.

 

[FS1]

Another question. If Mueller has given Comey Immunity would we know that now? Or would it be secret like everything else seems to be? I am thinking maybe that is why Comey blabbed. Mueller busted him and gave him immunity? Also if that did happen you are required to tell the truth or lose immunity. So if Trump is right and Comey lied to Congress would that kill his immunity if he had it?

Just some Random thinking

 

[Greg Langelius *]

My view, Comey has embarked on his Revenge Tour; and that's not just my view

My view about Trump's past and future is that I think it's fair and wise to let everybody stand on the actual facts of their own actual behaviors. If wrongdoing has been perpetrated, on either side, then it needs to be known, and needs to be conclusively addressed, wherever that leads. I think we'd all be a lot better served if everyone stepped back from ultra-partisan stances.

Obviously, that won't happen. In the light of radical partisan motivations, I think that any and all who advance such biases to the point of derailing the government's duty to be about the peoples' business, and advance, instead, the party's business, should be nailed to the courthouse wall as a reminder that a public trust has nada to do with politics.

That won't happen either.

Draining the Swamp is turning out to be an exercise in futility and hypocrisy. The government can't manage itself in a non-partisan manner, the only way that can happen is still at the ballot box. There is still a lot of work to do, with half of the Senate, and all manner of State, County, and local politic-rats still holding on, many of whom have yet to be voted on post Trump-election; and that only addresses the elected ones, the bureaucrats are a whole 'nother can o' worms.

I see a whole bunch of distraction and complacency among my fellow conservative voters. They think it's all over now, and that they/we can relax. That sentiment couldn't be more wrong.

This lesson needs to be taught and retaught until, as they say, we can not only get it right, but we also can't get it wrong.

A vampire isn't truly dead until it's both staked and burned. Lotta undeads still lurching about out there in the Swamp....

So, the ball's still in our court.

Muller has been described as Comey's "Brother in Arms". I think he's revving up the band for a medley of potshots and near misses at Trump. I would really like to be wrong about this, but....

I think that Schumer's being altogether too coy and reclusive. He needs to be in the sharp spotlight for a long time to come. I see him as the 'Queen Bee'; utterly protected while manipulating the entire hive. Make that Queen Killer Bee...

I see him as coveting the role of King Killer, knowing full well that the King Killer typically dies with the King. Maybe he thinks that might be a fitting Swan Song.

Just how far does 'resistance' need to go before it becomes 'conspiracy to commit domestic terrorism'? Americans are far too dense when it comes to equating politics with domestic terror. it's out there, and it's growing. I suspect that a careful reading of the law regarding organized crime could have some serous application to the current 'resistance' movement.

Greg

 

[FS1]

If Trump is able to discredit Comey's credibility wont he being giving Lynch a free pass also? If Comey is not credible how can he testify against Her. Maybe that's the plan. Who knows at this point?

 

[pmclaine]

If Trump is able to discredit Comey's credibility wont he being giving Lynch a free pass also? If Comey is not credible how can he testify against Her. Maybe that's the plan. Who knows at this point?

The Lynch admission by Comey is part and parcel of his credibility gap.

So he was willing to take direction and change his description of reality when asked by Democrats to do so but when asked by Trump to do no more than correct the record regarding what Comey has admitted is "fake news" concerning an investigation of Trump that didn't exist, Comey refused to do so.

So when someone is actually under investigation he will play it like they are not but when someone is not under investigation he will leave that person dangling in the wind and refuse to refute claims that they are.

A coup right before our eyes.