would like to here your oppions on concealed carry VS. open carry. do you think your more likely or less likely to be confronted by someone trying to harm you if you open carry.
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Sidearms & Scatterguns concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
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Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
That seems to be what everyone says so why is open carry so discriminated.
That seems to be what everyone says so why is open carry so discriminated.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
i conceal carry the dildo of death, but open carry the chain that affixes to it to retrofit it into the dildo mace of death
i conceal carry the dildo of death, but open carry the chain that affixes to it to retrofit it into the dildo mace of death
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
There are only 3 recent instances of people being confronted, and having their guns taken from them in this thread but I think it gets the point across.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/open...-grab-ocer.html
You will have to scroll down for the 2nd 2 links.
The general consensus on OC seems to be that if your going to do it you should be using some sort of retention holster and have a LOT of training on retention etc.
The whole OC vs CC is a debate that will probably never. For what its worth I carry every day and its always CC.
There are only 3 recent instances of people being confronted, and having their guns taken from them in this thread but I think it gets the point across.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/open...-grab-ocer.html
You will have to scroll down for the 2nd 2 links.
The general consensus on OC seems to be that if your going to do it you should be using some sort of retention holster and have a LOT of training on retention etc.
The whole OC vs CC is a debate that will probably never. For what its worth I carry every day and its always CC.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I don't bother with OC. The area's that I carry, have cities with laws concerning open carry, and In metropolitan area's it can get a little dicey trying to figure out where one town ends and one town begins, thus the difference in laws..... But if i conceal carry it, they can't say shit. Also, your less likely to get grief from business and other people if they don't even know you have it. Would OC be easier in terms of wardrobe/no printing? Hell yes. But the other hassles that go along with it, mitigate that. So IWB she goes.
As much trouble as we're having getting CCW in IL, i know it'll be a long time before we get OC. So, all the more reason not to even concern myself with that. I'll just CCW, not make a big deal of it. Most of the time, people figure I'm carrying but don't really know.
I don't bother with OC. The area's that I carry, have cities with laws concerning open carry, and In metropolitan area's it can get a little dicey trying to figure out where one town ends and one town begins, thus the difference in laws..... But if i conceal carry it, they can't say shit. Also, your less likely to get grief from business and other people if they don't even know you have it. Would OC be easier in terms of wardrobe/no printing? Hell yes. But the other hassles that go along with it, mitigate that. So IWB she goes.
As much trouble as we're having getting CCW in IL, i know it'll be a long time before we get OC. So, all the more reason not to even concern myself with that. I'll just CCW, not make a big deal of it. Most of the time, people figure I'm carrying but don't really know.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i conceal carry the dildo of death, but open carry the chain that affixes to it to retrofit it into the dildo mace of death </div></div>
Chain drive dildo? Hmmm. Sounds vaguely Japanese ...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i conceal carry the dildo of death, but open carry the chain that affixes to it to retrofit it into the dildo mace of death </div></div>
Chain drive dildo? Hmmm. Sounds vaguely Japanese ...
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I read a quote somewhere that stuck with me, "always carry, never tell." That hits the nail on the head in my book. I wouldn't like the attention that OC would bring, although I can see the deterrence value it COULD have. I would much rather blend in with everyone else and hopefully no one will ever have to know I carry.
I read a quote somewhere that stuck with me, "always carry, never tell." That hits the nail on the head in my book. I wouldn't like the attention that OC would bring, although I can see the deterrence value it COULD have. I would much rather blend in with everyone else and hopefully no one will ever have to know I carry.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you. </div></div>
Who are you to decide who can express his opinion and who can’t?
I expressed my opinion, articulated it logically and put it in context by pointing out my lack of experience.
On the other hand, when I see your response all I read is blablablabla and then some more blablablalba and then some more again.
I gotta admit…. It’s a lot of blabla for someone who writes “you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you”
So you just type all your blabla in response to my post without even listening to what I have to say?
You know what, I really don’t trust a narrow minded dictator like you with a gun (open carry or concealed… hey doing my best to stay on topic
).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you. </div></div>
Who are you to decide who can express his opinion and who can’t?
I expressed my opinion, articulated it logically and put it in context by pointing out my lack of experience.
On the other hand, when I see your response all I read is blablablabla and then some more blablablalba and then some more again.
I gotta admit…. It’s a lot of blabla for someone who writes “you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you”
So you just type all your blabla in response to my post without even listening to what I have to say?
You know what, I really don’t trust a narrow minded dictator like you with a gun (open carry or concealed… hey doing my best to stay on topic
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
one thing i have noticed when you open carry people always seem to stare in disbelief that you are carrying a gun on your side it doesn’t matter if your headed to the backwoods for some camping or headed to Wal-Mart i don’t feel that it should be such a big deal. It actually makes me uncomfortable to live in a nation that would not want its fellow citizens armed
one thing i have noticed when you open carry people always seem to stare in disbelief that you are carrying a gun on your side it doesn’t matter if your headed to the backwoods for some camping or headed to Wal-Mart i don’t feel that it should be such a big deal. It actually makes me uncomfortable to live in a nation that would not want its fellow citizens armed
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
People come here expecting somewhat expert opinion, and I should at least thank you for qualifying yours as anything but. I didn't say that you couldn't express yourself, just that you were pontificating and that my index fingers were solidly jammed in my ears whilst humming "neener neener neener." Exeunt, alarum.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you. </div></div>
Who are you to decide who can express his opinion and who can’t?
I expressed my opinion, articulated it logically and put it in context by pointing out my lack of experience.
On the other hand, when I see your response all I read is blablablabla and then some more blablablalba and then some more again.
I gotta admit…. It’s a lot of blabla for someone who writes “you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you”
So you just type all your blabla in response to my post without even listening to what I have to say?
You know what, I really don’t trust a narrow minded dictator like you with a gun (open carry or concealed… hey doing my best to stay on topic
).
</div></div>
People come here expecting somewhat expert opinion, and I should at least thank you for qualifying yours as anything but. I didn't say that you couldn't express yourself, just that you were pontificating and that my index fingers were solidly jammed in my ears whilst humming "neener neener neener." Exeunt, alarum.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you. </div></div>
Who are you to decide who can express his opinion and who can’t?
I expressed my opinion, articulated it logically and put it in context by pointing out my lack of experience.
On the other hand, when I see your response all I read is blablablabla and then some more blablablalba and then some more again.
I gotta admit…. It’s a lot of blabla for someone who writes “you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you”
So you just type all your blabla in response to my post without even listening to what I have to say?
You know what, I really don’t trust a narrow minded dictator like you with a gun (open carry or concealed… hey doing my best to stay on topic
</div></div>
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I could never understand why anyone would open carry in a public place. Anyone who lives in a state that allows this has seen the average joe walk into a mall with pistol holstered openly and seen where the focus of everyone goes. It goes right to their gun. Now everyone is aware of that guy that other wise would have never got a second look. Congradulations he made himself a target. CC is the smart way to go. The more you blend in the better your chance to survive. Just my 2 cents.
I could never understand why anyone would open carry in a public place. Anyone who lives in a state that allows this has seen the average joe walk into a mall with pistol holstered openly and seen where the focus of everyone goes. It goes right to their gun. Now everyone is aware of that guy that other wise would have never got a second look. Congradulations he made himself a target. CC is the smart way to go. The more you blend in the better your chance to survive. Just my 2 cents.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2down1UP2down</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I could never understand why anyone would open carry in a public place. Anyone who lives in a state that allows this has seen the average joe walk into a mall with pistol holstered openly and seen where the focus of everyone goes. It goes right to their gun. Now everyone is aware of that guy that other wise would have never got a second look. Congradulations he made himself a target. CC is the smart way to go. The more you blend in the better your chance to survive. Just my 2 cents. </div></div>
While I can understand how you would think that my experience growing up in Arizona leads me to believe otherwise. I have seen on numerous occasions people open carrying in a multitude of environments; everywhere from the streets of Prescott, Nogales, Flagstaff, Tucson, and Pine Top to upscale malls in Scottsdale. Honestly the list of places I have seen people carrying is pretty much everywhere I have ever been in the state.
As you mentioned people do notice the weapon but then carry on with their business. Most often people give them a very wide berth or are indifferent. I have seen on at least 5 occasions tourists strike up conversations with the person carrying and talking about it, in all the times I have seen this occur the conversation was civil and it seemed both parties enjoyed it.
I have not heard of anyone being victim of a crime because they were seen open carrying. It is my opinion that more often then not it exposes other people to the idea that guns aren't so evil and that everyday citizens live with them responsibly. It also has the benefit of giving off a strong "tread lightly" vibe, which is a plus imho.
Think about this. How would the perception of guns by the ignorant masses change if doctors and businessmen in suits carried them openly?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 2down1UP2down</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I could never understand why anyone would open carry in a public place. Anyone who lives in a state that allows this has seen the average joe walk into a mall with pistol holstered openly and seen where the focus of everyone goes. It goes right to their gun. Now everyone is aware of that guy that other wise would have never got a second look. Congradulations he made himself a target. CC is the smart way to go. The more you blend in the better your chance to survive. Just my 2 cents. </div></div>
While I can understand how you would think that my experience growing up in Arizona leads me to believe otherwise. I have seen on numerous occasions people open carrying in a multitude of environments; everywhere from the streets of Prescott, Nogales, Flagstaff, Tucson, and Pine Top to upscale malls in Scottsdale. Honestly the list of places I have seen people carrying is pretty much everywhere I have ever been in the state.
As you mentioned people do notice the weapon but then carry on with their business. Most often people give them a very wide berth or are indifferent. I have seen on at least 5 occasions tourists strike up conversations with the person carrying and talking about it, in all the times I have seen this occur the conversation was civil and it seemed both parties enjoyed it.
I have not heard of anyone being victim of a crime because they were seen open carrying. It is my opinion that more often then not it exposes other people to the idea that guns aren't so evil and that everyday citizens live with them responsibly. It also has the benefit of giving off a strong "tread lightly" vibe, which is a plus imho.
Think about this. How would the perception of guns by the ignorant masses change if doctors and businessmen in suits carried them openly?
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
My personal opion is that everyone should C.C. do to the fact that if theres always that fear in the back of a criminals head that hey its more then likely that this man or women has a pistol and is willing to use it that the crime rate in america would drop in amounts unheard of. However if everyone was that comfortable with carrying and using a pistol that there would be no need for concealed carry laws
My personal opion is that everyone should C.C. do to the fact that if theres always that fear in the back of a criminals head that hey its more then likely that this man or women has a pistol and is willing to use it that the crime rate in america would drop in amounts unheard of. However if everyone was that comfortable with carrying and using a pistol that there would be no need for concealed carry laws
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Think about this. How would the perception of guns by the ignorant masses change if doctors and businessmen in suits carried them openly?[/quote]
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Think about this. How would the perception of guns by the ignorant masses change if doctors and businessmen in suits carried them openly?[/quote]
+1
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.
To the OP, I open carry occasionally here in the sticks and have pretty much neutral feedback. People notice and then move on for the most part. I do not carry into larger towns and usually just leave it off when going in stores where the owners don't know me, but I find that most times just being friendly and not acting stand-offish/hostile goes a long way towards keeping it from becoming tense. Just my two pennies, fwiw.
-The Kid.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.
To the OP, I open carry occasionally here in the sticks and have pretty much neutral feedback. People notice and then move on for the most part. I do not carry into larger towns and usually just leave it off when going in stores where the owners don't know me, but I find that most times just being friendly and not acting stand-offish/hostile goes a long way towards keeping it from becoming tense. Just my two pennies, fwiw.
-The Kid.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Open carry is discriminated and frowned apon because the media makes guns out to be evil. And because the majority of the population. Has no experience or understanding of firearms, their owners, and their purpose and assume that someone with a gun is a criminal.
I like both. People would be less apt to start trouble if a gun is clearly visible, then again, of you're open carrying in a convenience store, and the hoodlum behind you wants your gun, they just have to bash you over the head with any number of items readily available. It's a tough call.
Open carry is discriminated and frowned apon because the media makes guns out to be evil. And because the majority of the population. Has no experience or understanding of firearms, their owners, and their purpose and assume that someone with a gun is a criminal.
I like both. People would be less apt to start trouble if a gun is clearly visible, then again, of you're open carrying in a convenience store, and the hoodlum behind you wants your gun, they just have to bash you over the head with any number of items readily available. It's a tough call.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I personally prefer to conceal carry.
I like the element of surprise. I feel like through much practice of quick draw and shooting from the concealed carry position, I think I am just as well off as if I was open carrying. The only difference is that I am not telegraphing that I have a weapon and that you should use more force against me than you were initially planning.
I personally prefer to conceal carry.
I like the element of surprise. I feel like through much practice of quick draw and shooting from the concealed carry position, I think I am just as well off as if I was open carrying. The only difference is that I am not telegraphing that I have a weapon and that you should use more force against me than you were initially planning.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
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Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I carry everyday, concealed. The reason is simple. Open carry makes you a target for badguys, scared old women, liberals who want to prove a point and everyone else who cannot mind their own buisness. I wish open carry was a good option but until the majority of society carries it is not. When a one of the above mentioned people walks into a store and 75% of the people in the store have a gun on their hip it is a mute point. When same person walks in and you are it, well you are it.
I carry everyday, concealed. The reason is simple. Open carry makes you a target for badguys, scared old women, liberals who want to prove a point and everyone else who cannot mind their own buisness. I wish open carry was a good option but until the majority of society carries it is not. When a one of the above mentioned people walks into a store and 75% of the people in the store have a gun on their hip it is a mute point. When same person walks in and you are it, well you are it.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I conceal when I'm not working, OC when I am. If someone else wants to "make a statement" or attempt to "educate" the unwashed, they can have at it.
I conceal when I'm not working, OC when I am. If someone else wants to "make a statement" or attempt to "educate" the unwashed, they can have at it.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I have oced in Nv, havent had a problem yet (even in Reno). Situational awareness has a lot to do with things I think. I cc everytime I go to town, in the winter its not bad, but in the summer when its 110 outside, that holster sure can leave some bad rashes on my leg.
I have oced in Nv, havent had a problem yet (even in Reno). Situational awareness has a lot to do with things I think. I cc everytime I go to town, in the winter its not bad, but in the summer when its 110 outside, that holster sure can leave some bad rashes on my leg.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HathcockWannebe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
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You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.</div></div>
Wannabe (how fitting), do some reading in this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
Specifically, examine this post:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it
</div></div>
I dont even know what to say to that.
If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280354#Post3280354</div></div>
So, Wannabe, how much Glock-fondling time do <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> have in?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HathcockWannebe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.</div></div>
Wannabe (how fitting), do some reading in this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
Specifically, examine this post:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it
</div></div>
I dont even know what to say to that.
If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280354#Post3280354</div></div>
So, Wannabe, how much Glock-fondling time do <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> have in?
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
open and concealed have their place. in my home town in nevada i carry open. it's rural, its small, i know my way around, situational awareness is much easier. in tacoma, open carry is legal, but i choose to carry concealed. its not as open, there are far more variables, and it's a much more liberal environment. It's all about what you're comfortable with and what REASONABLY suits your environment. a glock or a j-frame or a 1911 or whatever, in a leather holster on your belt will go over much better with society, even the liberal ones, than a 5-7 with 8 spare 20 round mags on your belt. is it legal, sure. is it reasonable? shit no.
open and concealed have their place. in my home town in nevada i carry open. it's rural, its small, i know my way around, situational awareness is much easier. in tacoma, open carry is legal, but i choose to carry concealed. its not as open, there are far more variables, and it's a much more liberal environment. It's all about what you're comfortable with and what REASONABLY suits your environment. a glock or a j-frame or a 1911 or whatever, in a leather holster on your belt will go over much better with society, even the liberal ones, than a 5-7 with 8 spare 20 round mags on your belt. is it legal, sure. is it reasonable? shit no.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H.S.F.&H.C.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would like to here your oppions on concealed carry VS. open carry. do you think your more likely or less likely to be confronted by someone trying to harm you if you open carry. </div></div>
Would a man be more likely to attack people which he knew had a gun?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H.S.F.&H.C.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would like to here your oppions on concealed carry VS. open carry. do you think your more likely or less likely to be confronted by someone trying to harm you if you open carry. </div></div>
Would a man be more likely to attack people which he knew had a gun?
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. But I have a lot of experience (much more than what I would like to) with idiots, morons and donkeys (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride. I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.
I have not responded to your comments in the other topic that I have started and that you’re referencing. I’m responding to you here.
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. But I have a lot of experience (much more than what I would like to) with idiots, morons and donkeys (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride. I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.
I have not responded to your comments in the other topic that I have started and that you’re referencing. I’m responding to you here.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
open carry draws atention, if someone attacks you while you are carrying openly, it will be a much more dangerous situation for you. if you carry concealed, less attention is drawn to you. you might not get singled out. idk. this is fun reading.
open carry draws atention, if someone attacks you while you are carrying openly, it will be a much more dangerous situation for you. if you carry concealed, less attention is drawn to you. you might not get singled out. idk. this is fun reading.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. <span style="font-weight: bold">But I have a lot of experience</span> (much more than what I would like to) <span style="font-weight: bold">with</span> idiots, morons and <span style="font-weight: bold">donkeys</span> (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). <span style="font-weight: bold">I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride.</span> I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.</div></div>
Let's not thread-jack, shall we? OP, my apologies.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. <span style="font-weight: bold">But I have a lot of experience</span> (much more than what I would like to) <span style="font-weight: bold">with</span> idiots, morons and <span style="font-weight: bold">donkeys</span> (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). <span style="font-weight: bold">I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride.</span> I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.</div></div>
Let's not thread-jack, shall we? OP, my apologies.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HathcockWannebe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.</div></div>
Wannabe (how fitting), do some reading in this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
Specifically, examine this post:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it
</div></div>
I dont even know what to say to that.
If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280354#Post3280354</div></div>
So, Wannabe, how much Glock-fondling time do <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> have in?
</div></div>
LOL. Dude, you may be a tool, but that IS funny stuff! I'm just starting to feel bad for the poor Glocks...poor innocent handguns are gonna need therapy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HathcockWannebe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have no experience but, again, I’m just going to use common sense.
If you open carry, you’re less likely to be confronted.
BUT…..
If you open carry, and if you’re confronted, it’s likely that you’d die. The aggressor sees your weapon and will kill you without warning if he decides to confront you. He would put a bullet in the back your head and then will take your belongings. If it’s concealed, the same aggressor would probably approach you in a more conventional way giving you time to react.
I have no experience and I don’t carry. But if I did, I’m pretty sure it would be concealed. I think it provides a huge tactical leverage.
</div></div>
You have, admittedly, no experience, but yet you're pontificating anyway? The fact that I happen to be against OC for GPs doesn't buy you a pass. Get some experience: you gotta lot of Glock-fondling ahead of you before I even dimly perceive you in my rear-view mirror, let alone listen to you.</div></div>
Veer, no one but you could possibly make you look so much the insecure braggadocio. Excellent work! Haha. "Man, I've got to find a Glock to fondle so that Veer G will give me some respect!", said Nobody Ever. How many hours of fondling do we have to clock before you vaguely perceive us poor rookies in your rear-view mirror (let alone listen to us!) ? Can we get like half-credit for carrying one? I wanna be reasonable, but man! I just want you to be able to perceive me in your rear-view mirror, you know? So what do you say; can we work out some kind of deal? Maybe like after 500 hours of fondling, 50 hours of fingering, and maybe 25 hours of tonguing the mag well we could have our opinions submitted to you for a preliminary critique? I hope I don't come across as somebody that is looking for a shortcut to gaining your respect, Sir.</div></div>
Wannabe (how fitting), do some reading in this thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
Specifically, examine this post:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it
</div></div>
I dont even know what to say to that.
If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280354#Post3280354</div></div>
So, Wannabe, how much Glock-fondling time do <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> have in?
</div></div>
LOL. Dude, you may be a tool, but that IS funny stuff! I'm just starting to feel bad for the poor Glocks...poor innocent handguns are gonna need therapy.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
look if your doing whatever your doing legal who gives a fuck CC or OC do whatever the fuck you want simple
i personally CC if this world was a bit different i might OC.. i dont care nor need any extra attention drawn to me
also i believe that if your OC anyone trying to harm you will do it faster than if your CC you might have a chance to surprise them
my thoughts
sorry for rant i cant stand debates that have been discussed since the beginning of time
look if your doing whatever your doing legal who gives a fuck CC or OC do whatever the fuck you want simple
i personally CC if this world was a bit different i might OC.. i dont care nor need any extra attention drawn to me
also i believe that if your OC anyone trying to harm you will do it faster than if your CC you might have a chance to surprise them
my thoughts
sorry for rant i cant stand debates that have been discussed since the beginning of time
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
We just need more good people to carry period, open or concealed. If all law abiding citizens would carry, criminals would be less likely to attack innocent people.
We just need more good people to carry period, open or concealed. If all law abiding citizens would carry, criminals would be less likely to attack innocent people.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I'd say conceal carry, is the smarter choice because you blend in thus not look like a threat or atleast look less threatening.
because say i'm going to do a shooting, i'm going to walk around a bit look at stuff maybe pick up a few items make it look like i'm shopping or what ever. instead i'm looking around at people and places people might hide from me, and anyone that looks like a valid threat will be first or one of the first to die.
This means if i see someone with a gun, guess what i'll execute them by firing a bullet through the back of there head, then i'll take there firearm to.
But this is just how i see it, because i'd think a gunman would go after threats first. But then again gunman don't really plan out there attack they sort of just do them, it seems.
So who really know which is better for that CC because less trouble, meaning causing some people to be uneasy and such. And because I'd get asked less questions by people and cops to.
I'd say conceal carry, is the smarter choice because you blend in thus not look like a threat or atleast look less threatening.
because say i'm going to do a shooting, i'm going to walk around a bit look at stuff maybe pick up a few items make it look like i'm shopping or what ever. instead i'm looking around at people and places people might hide from me, and anyone that looks like a valid threat will be first or one of the first to die.
This means if i see someone with a gun, guess what i'll execute them by firing a bullet through the back of there head, then i'll take there firearm to.
But this is just how i see it, because i'd think a gunman would go after threats first. But then again gunman don't really plan out there attack they sort of just do them, it seems.
So who really know which is better for that CC because less trouble, meaning causing some people to be uneasy and such. And because I'd get asked less questions by people and cops to.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. <span style="font-weight: bold">But I have a lot of experience</span> (much more than what I would like to) <span style="font-weight: bold">with</span> idiots, morons and <span style="font-weight: bold">donkeys</span> (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). <span style="font-weight: bold">I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride.</span> I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.</div></div>
Let's not thread-jack, shall we? OP, my apologies. </div></div>
Yes, we shall. See? we came to an agreement. I'm even starting to like you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Veer,
The only thing you’re achieving by referencing this other topic, is to make yourself look like an idiot in two topics instead of one.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3280304#Post3280304
It’s true that I have not much experience with handguns. <span style="font-weight: bold">But I have a lot of experience</span> (much more than what I would like to) <span style="font-weight: bold">with</span> idiots, morons and <span style="font-weight: bold">donkeys</span> (and I’m absolutely not implying that you’re an idiot and a moron…. Kinda subtitle, but some people will know what I mean). <span style="font-weight: bold">I usually ignore them. But once in while I like to take them for a ride.</span> I know, it’s a horrible thing to do but it’s sort of entertaining.</div></div>
Let's not thread-jack, shall we? OP, my apologies. </div></div>
Yes, we shall. See? we came to an agreement. I'm even starting to like you.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Just like your clothing and appearance, to me open carry is more about a statement then purely defense. If credentials must be presented, i carry a glock 19 or Sig 220, though any individual capable of deriving a thoughtful opinion should be given at minimum respect.
Just like your clothing and appearance, to me open carry is more about a statement then purely defense. If credentials must be presented, i carry a glock 19 or Sig 220, though any individual capable of deriving a thoughtful opinion should be given at minimum respect.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk.
I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk. </div></div>
Unsettling is you lookin' down some dude's overalls. REALLY unsettling is you posting about it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk. </div></div>
Unsettling is you lookin' down some dude's overalls. REALLY unsettling is you posting about it.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
ad nauseum
This has been discussed a bit. There is no right or wrong answer.
ad nauseum
This has been discussed a bit. There is no right or wrong answer.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk. </div></div>
Unsettling is you lookin' down some dude's overalls. REALLY unsettling is you posting about it.
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Beat me to it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought of this thread while at wholesale sports today. There was this guy in there that was carrying his judge in a leather holster. He was doing some sort of combination concealed/open carry. When he was standing, it was concealed by his overalls, when he kneeled however, it was right out there in the open. I think that was more unsettling than just one or the other. Idk. </div></div>
Unsettling is you lookin' down some dude's overalls. REALLY unsettling is you posting about it.
Beat me to it.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Hahaha well played. It was riding high by his ribs. And it was grossly obvious. The massive revolver on the side of his torso was something that snatches attention. No homo...
Hahaha well played. It was riding high by his ribs. And it was grossly obvious. The massive revolver on the side of his torso was something that snatches attention. No homo...
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hahaha well played. It was riding high by his ribs. And it was grossly obvious. The massive revolver on the side of his torso was something that snatches attention. No homo... </div></div>
I forget where it is that you said that you were, but that image sounds straight out of People of Walmart.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OT-Medic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hahaha well played. It was riding high by his ribs. And it was grossly obvious. The massive revolver on the side of his torso was something that snatches attention. No homo... </div></div>
I forget where it is that you said that you were, but that image sounds straight out of People of Walmart.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I feel like I'm reading Junior High Facebook posts. Oops, I don't actually have any experience with that, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it.
Conceal it, good grief. Why would you not want an automatic Ace in the hole? If the situation is so crappy you need the gun you are carrying, you're going to want every advantage possible.
If doctors and lawyers in this town open carried everywhere they went, they would loose half of their clients and be out of business. Just like if I saw my doctor marching in an "Occupy" parade, it would piss me off and I'd get a new doctor.
I feel like I'm reading Junior High Facebook posts. Oops, I don't actually have any experience with that, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it.
Conceal it, good grief. Why would you not want an automatic Ace in the hole? If the situation is so crappy you need the gun you are carrying, you're going to want every advantage possible.
If doctors and lawyers in this town open carried everywhere they went, they would loose half of their clients and be out of business. Just like if I saw my doctor marching in an "Occupy" parade, it would piss me off and I'd get a new doctor.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Or, for a fantastic idea, everyone do (legally) what they're comfortable doing, within common sense? If you're only comfortable OCing while out in the sticks, and prefer to CC while in town, do that. If you prefer to OC around town, do it. Just maintain common sense and respect. I know guys who OC as a way to make a political statement, and it's a great way for them to arouse people's curiosity/answer questions on it. If you get all butt-hurt because an pistol in some leather comes across as silly to you, oh well. I bet you'll get over it.
Or, for a fantastic idea, everyone do (legally) what they're comfortable doing, within common sense? If you're only comfortable OCing while out in the sticks, and prefer to CC while in town, do that. If you prefer to OC around town, do it. Just maintain common sense and respect. I know guys who OC as a way to make a political statement, and it's a great way for them to arouse people's curiosity/answer questions on it. If you get all butt-hurt because an pistol in some leather comes across as silly to you, oh well. I bet you'll get over it.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
Why don't CIA operatives wear t-shirts that say "CIA" on them? Shouldn't that be a deterrent letting people know that they are highly trained professionals? Yes I know, not a completely fair analogy, but you get the point.
Whether or not it makes you a target or deters things...who knows. But seeing as how the odds of you/me/us being a victim in a situation that warrants drawing a firearm are, lets face it, pretty damn small...I'd rather use other measures to minimize it further by not going to certain areas of town at certain times, etc. Because open carry is a pain in the ass! People stare, people act uneasy, people make stupid comments (why they would antagonize someone they KNOW has a gun, I have no idea). You have to think a lot more, little things like keeping your gun side to the counter/wall, sitting at certain tables to keep it inaccesible to someone with sticky hands. People ask "is that real?" or "is that legal?". It gets real old explaining the laws to everyone. Hell, my buddy has even had the cops called on him twice! I don't know why anyone would call the police when no crime is being committed, but people are stupid. (He finally headed my advice and just got his CC). I'd rather just drive a shitty vehicle so criminals think it wouldn't be worth their time to rob me! haha
It's just simply too much hassle to open carry, with me not being able to see any benefit. Another not quite applicable phrase...don't show people the cards in your hand. I can see points for the argument going either way...as open carry being a deterrent or attracting shit. I'll bet the farm on the pass line with a new dice shooter...but when it comes to these odds, I'd rather not take the risk (if there) of it attracting bad stuff. Especially with the hassle that comes with that (possible) risk.
There's no answer to your question, only personal thoughts. Is the juice worth the squeeze for you? For me it's not. CC for this guy.
Why don't CIA operatives wear t-shirts that say "CIA" on them? Shouldn't that be a deterrent letting people know that they are highly trained professionals? Yes I know, not a completely fair analogy, but you get the point.
Whether or not it makes you a target or deters things...who knows. But seeing as how the odds of you/me/us being a victim in a situation that warrants drawing a firearm are, lets face it, pretty damn small...I'd rather use other measures to minimize it further by not going to certain areas of town at certain times, etc. Because open carry is a pain in the ass! People stare, people act uneasy, people make stupid comments (why they would antagonize someone they KNOW has a gun, I have no idea). You have to think a lot more, little things like keeping your gun side to the counter/wall, sitting at certain tables to keep it inaccesible to someone with sticky hands. People ask "is that real?" or "is that legal?". It gets real old explaining the laws to everyone. Hell, my buddy has even had the cops called on him twice! I don't know why anyone would call the police when no crime is being committed, but people are stupid. (He finally headed my advice and just got his CC). I'd rather just drive a shitty vehicle so criminals think it wouldn't be worth their time to rob me! haha
It's just simply too much hassle to open carry, with me not being able to see any benefit. Another not quite applicable phrase...don't show people the cards in your hand. I can see points for the argument going either way...as open carry being a deterrent or attracting shit. I'll bet the farm on the pass line with a new dice shooter...but when it comes to these odds, I'd rather not take the risk (if there) of it attracting bad stuff. Especially with the hassle that comes with that (possible) risk.
There's no answer to your question, only personal thoughts. Is the juice worth the squeeze for you? For me it's not. CC for this guy.
Re: concealed carry VS. open carry ????????
I open carry only when on duty in full uniform with vest and radio, none of my family with me and as a job. When off duty I am smart enough to conceal my weapon as I don't have any of the necessary items for my safety and I am not dumb enough to make my family and I a target just because I can. So if you are situationally aware enough and don't have your family with you then feel free to make your statement and risk only your self for your political statement. Please don't do it when your family can pay the price of you being the gun a bad guy wants. It is odd that the center of my badge (Ohio) is the state seal and shaped like a bullseye. Just so you don't get the wrong idea I also teach NRA basic pistol (qualifies citizens to apply for ccw permit in Ohio) because in this country all citizens have the right to bear in my opinion I just think that they are better suited as a surprise help than a target.
There is a reason fire fighters call us canaries, we are the first line of risk (no need to risk yourself, but you have the right to make a political statement if you choose just don't make that choice for the family let them choose for themselves).
Jeff
I open carry only when on duty in full uniform with vest and radio, none of my family with me and as a job. When off duty I am smart enough to conceal my weapon as I don't have any of the necessary items for my safety and I am not dumb enough to make my family and I a target just because I can. So if you are situationally aware enough and don't have your family with you then feel free to make your statement and risk only your self for your political statement. Please don't do it when your family can pay the price of you being the gun a bad guy wants. It is odd that the center of my badge (Ohio) is the state seal and shaped like a bullseye. Just so you don't get the wrong idea I also teach NRA basic pistol (qualifies citizens to apply for ccw permit in Ohio) because in this country all citizens have the right to bear in my opinion I just think that they are better suited as a surprise help than a target.
There is a reason fire fighters call us canaries, we are the first line of risk (no need to risk yourself, but you have the right to make a political statement if you choose just don't make that choice for the family let them choose for themselves).
Jeff
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I guess once a year its a necessary evil to have a repeat debate.
I guess once a year its a necessary evil to have a repeat debate.
