Cop that shot wheelchair dude gets manslaughter

[Bender]

at least he committed to finishing his vegetables.........





And I’m going to hell

Cop charged with manslaughter for shooting wheelchair-bound man

Ryan Remington, 32, a former Tucson, Arizona police officer who gunned down a wheelchair-bound man suspected of stealing a toolbox from Walmart last year has been indicted on manslaughter charges

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Exigent circumstances. An armed person was entering a building that is occupied. Qualified immunity, he was trained not to go hands on with a knife wielding suspect and he believed that the armed suspect may harm people in the store.

 

[Bender]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

 

[Maser]

All one has to do is know about the murders of Daniel Shaver and Ryan Whitaker to know just how AZ cops operate.

 

[brian1]

at least he committed to finishing his vegetables.........





And I’m going to hell

Cop charged with manslaughter for shooting wheelchair-bound man

Ryan Remington, 32, a former Tucson, Arizona police officer who gunned down a wheelchair-bound man suspected of stealing a toolbox from Walmart last year has been indicted on manslaughter charges

www.dailymail.co.uk

Did he shoot him with a Remington pistol? Perhaps he took his own name too seriously?

 

[brian1]

All one has to do is know about the murders of Daniel Shaver and Ryan Whitaker to know just how AZ cops operate.

I looked them up. You're right. Clear cold murder, one shooter got off free with no charges, the other one somehow beat the charges. I have no sympathy for dirtbags who fight or attack police and get shot as a result, but that is truly some unjustified shit there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ryan_Whitaker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

 

[EddieNFL]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

Poor training. Should have taken no more than two (that's allowing for stress).

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

Thats a helluva name.. Richard Richards.
Pap had a buddy named Hutch Hutchison. Pretty much required to go full manly man and grow a mullet + date a stripper named Bridget the Midget with a name like that.

 

[TexPatriot]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

Yeah, that was bullshit, rather, straight up murder and he should have been charged with that.

He got the LE discount.

Besides, he could have just shot out a tire.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

I didn't say that I agree with what I wrote. Just saying that when lawyers make laws, hire the people to protect them and enforce their laws there's a protection for their actions.

Qualified immunity is a giant loophole. The guy already threatened one person with a knife. The cop knew that. All he has to say is that he "believed" that wheelchair guy was going to use "deadly force".
Was there ten different ways that the guy could have been stopped? Yes, but his training in whatever LEO school will cover his choice.
Gotta go home safe!!

 

[spamassassin]

at least he committed to finishing his vegetables.........





And I’m going to hell

Cop charged with manslaughter for shooting wheelchair-bound man

Ryan Remington, 32, a former Tucson, Arizona police officer who gunned down a wheelchair-bound man suspected of stealing a toolbox from Walmart last year has been indicted on manslaughter charges

www.dailymail.co.uk

Clean if actually unnecessary shoot. Known BG with a recent history of evading, brandishing, making threats of violence and burglary wants to move the fight into a more crowded setting. Would an asp to the face probably have done just as good of a job? Yes. Would a taser maybe have worked? Yes if bonehead had put himself in a position to alter wheelie-bro's course. Did the guy threaten to murder some people and get what he had coming to him for it? Yep. You suck the dick you lose the kingdom, Romans I. You pull the knife you get the bullets, Acts.

 

[UKDslayer]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

What's odd is that (theft under $950) isn't even a crime in California.

 

[BullGear]

Since the cop has only been charged with manslaughter, it seems it a bit too early to say that he's going to be found guilty in a court of law. I'd like to see more details in the case. I will say it looks bad for the cop. I wonder if he called for backup or he just decided he was going to take care of this himself.

Sadly there's a lot of politics involved when a cop shoots someone. I don't know how the town took to this shooting. Maybe there's a lot of pressure on the DA to do something, or maybe it's a rock solid case against the cop.

Either way, it's a sad situation for the victim and his family.

 

[Im2bent]

 

[mrdrar]

I remember this when it happened. If wheelchair dude was making tracks toward my family, I would buy the police officer a steak dinner. "Victim" had plenty of opportunity to reconsider his choices.

 

[akmike47]

“Wheelchair” yes it has wheels, but not a wheelchair. It’s a mobility scooter but that doesn’t sound as good in a headline. Guy pulled a weapon and “ran”, then tried to go into another store armed.

Yeah they could have just kicked him over, but he could have stabbed them also.

 

[BCP]

IIRC the guy was a criminal who had a long and fucked up history, somehow getting injured while in jail and winding up in a wheelchair. Waving a knife around at a store clerk while shoplifting random things, probably was all out of fucks to give because his life sucked.

 

[candyx]

Poor training. Should have taken no more than two (that's allowing for stress).

Should of used the Baldwin defense , " I didn't pull the trigger "

 

[7.62willdo]

I didn't say that I agree with what I wrote. Just saying that when lawyers make laws, hire the people to protect them and enforce their laws there's a protection for their actions.

Qualified immunity is a giant loophole. The guy already threatened one person with a knife. The cop knew that. All he has to say is that he "believed" that wheelchair guy was going to use "deadly force".
Was there ten different ways that the guy could have been stopped? Yes, but his training in whatever LEO school will cover his choice.
Gotta go home safe!!

If you GOTTA GO HOME SAFE maybe you should work at a pillow factory and not be a cop………

 

[Bender]

I was briefly a cop, not that it makes my opinion better or more valuable, but this is fucked up. I would have hated to have this type of twat on my team. That out of all the tools a cop has, especially against a literal wheelchair bound handicap you decide to go to full retard rather than just pushing him over? Tazer? Granted, I was not there, I can’t be an armchair quarterback but the list options were still huge before he went full retard. He should have never been hired.

 

[pmclaine]

I didn't say that I agree with what I wrote. Just saying that when lawyers make laws, hire the people to protect them and enforce their laws there's a protection for their actions.

Qualified immunity is a giant loophole. The guy already threatened one person with a knife. The cop knew that. All he has to say is that he "believed" that wheelchair guy was going to use "deadly force".
Was there ten different ways that the guy could have been stopped? Yes, but his training in whatever LEO school will cover his choice.
Gotta go home safe!!

Qualified immunity does not shield an officer from scrutiny in a shooting.

Work outside the color of the law you have no protection.

Enforce law as prescribed by legislation/statute you personally are protected from personal lawsuit.

The qualified immunity You describe is That which politicians enjoy.

They say “Fuck it. I know this is UnConstitutional but let them sue to get remedy. They better have deep pockets because my hand takes money from the tax payer.”

Absolutely no repercussion for actions of malice.

Even when they are reversed the tax payer pays for their crimes.

Gives me that level of immunity.

 

[pmclaine]

I was briefly a cop……

Now you are fucked.

Stand by for @wade2big pming you for shoulder patches or any other groupy SWAG you may have.

 

[candyx]

Maybe the Officer made a error in his judgement shit happens, on the other hand the "victim" a career criminal threatening people with a knife should of chose a different career path way back when...

 

[spamassassin]

So basically, what happens when either idiots or assholes or both collide?

 

[candyx]

So basically, what happens when either idiots or assholes or both collide?

Its science , fundamental constituents of the universe interact.

 

[Snipe260]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

Word was that he hated veggies as a kid!

 

[UKDslayer]

I was briefly a cop, not that it makes my opinion better or more valuable, but this is fucked up. I would have hated to have this type of twat on my team. That out of all the tools a cop has, especially against a literal wheelchair bound handicap you decide to go to full retard rather than just pushing him over? Tazer? Granted, I was not there, I can’t be an armchair quarterback but the list options were still huge before he went full retard. He should have never been hired.

Sadly, he may have thought "oh, knife, legit weapon, so I can shoot". Other factors should be taken into consideration. Justified shoot? Probably. Excessive force? Probably. Dude needed to be stopped - that mobility scooter could have caused an accident in front for the Lowe's. And he could have knife someone in a "surprise" attack..Lets see what say the jury.

Victim's story/why he was in mobility scooter? He had hip surgery while in prison. Seems like AZ normally takes good care of its prisoners, paid hip surgery, then he gets a mobility scooter. There's a lot of duty-injured vets with worse injuries and conditions that could use a ride like that.

 

[OkieMike]

Dude blasted a wheelchair bound guy 9 times? Come on....

Well if he had "rowed" faster...

I'm going to Hell too, aren't I?

Mike

 

[candyx]

Dude should of brought the wheelchair model with kevlar fabric backed chair fabric, buy once cry once. Now be serious who has ever shot a gun and only pulled the trigger once, now put a knife wielding perp in the mix.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I know you lived it but here's the loophole that he can use.
He made a split second decision because guy was about to enter an occupied dwelling with a deadly weapon just after brandishing it and threatening others. He failed to follow commands and the cop believed that people were in immediate danger.

Supreme Court Defends Qualified Immunity In Police Shooting, Excessive Force Cases

Cases need to include almost identical facts to overcome qualified immunity, the Supreme Court declared. It also strongly suggested making it even more difficult to sue law enforcement.

www.forbes.com

"

Qualified immunity does not shield an officer from scrutiny in a shooting.

Work outside the color of the law you have no protection.

Enforce law as prescribed by legislation/statute you personally are protected from personal lawsuit.

The qualified immunity You describe is That which politicians enjoy.

They say “Fuck it. I know this is UnConstitutional but let them sue to get remedy. They better have deep pockets because my hand takes money from the tax payer.”

Absolutely no repercussion for actions of malice.

Even when they are reversed the tax payer pays for their crimes.

Gives me that level of immunity.

"The law must be clearly established for an officer to be denied qualified immunity, yet courts can grant qualified immunity without ever deciding if the right exists, thus not making it clearly established. In its twin unsigned rulings, the Supreme Court re-emphasized that cases involving split-second decisions must include almost identical facts and strongly suggested it could make overcoming qualified immunity in those types of excessive-force cases even more difficult "

 

[pmclaine]

I know you lived it but here's the loophole that he can use.
He made a split second decision because guy was about to enter an occupied dwelling with a deadly weapon just after brandishing it and threatening others. He failed to follow commands and the cop believed that people were in immediate danger.

Supreme Court Defends Qualified Immunity In Police Shooting, Excessive Force Cases

Cases need to include almost identical facts to overcome qualified immunity, the Supreme Court declared. It also strongly suggested making it even more difficult to sue law enforcement.

www.forbes.com

"


"The law must be clearly established for an officer to be denied qualified immunity, yet courts can grant qualified immunity without ever deciding if the right exists, thus not making it clearly established. In its twin unsigned rulings, the Supreme Court re-emphasized that cases involving split-second decisions must include almost identical facts and strongly suggested it could make overcoming qualified immunity in those types of excessive-force cases even more difficult "

Short of saying you are never justified in shooting someone in a wheel chair…….which would be absurd, than the facts of the case need to determine.

Society is of the mindset to make accommodations for mouth breathers be they societies failures or trained agents of the state.

Sucks!

Bring back the concepts of responsibility and shame we can start to fix it.

Last weeks $10k debt forgiveness says don’t hold your breath!

 

[candyx]

I know you lived it but here's the loophole that he can use.
He made a split second decision because guy was about to enter an occupied dwelling with a deadly weapon just after brandishing it and threatening others. He failed to follow commands and the cop believed that people were in immediate danger.

Supreme Court Defends Qualified Immunity In Police Shooting, Excessive Force Cases

Cases need to include almost identical facts to overcome qualified immunity, the Supreme Court declared. It also strongly suggested making it even more difficult to sue law enforcement.

www.forbes.com

"


"The law must be clearly established for an officer to be denied qualified immunity, yet courts can grant qualified immunity without ever deciding if the right exists, thus not making it clearly established. In its twin unsigned rulings, the Supreme Court re-emphasized that cases involving split-second decisions must include almost identical facts and strongly suggested it could make overcoming qualified immunity in those types of excessive-force cases even more difficult "

The problem lies with the protection of criminals by the liberals at all cost no matter who they harm. The Officer could of dumped a 21 round mag into that perp and it wouldn't bother me, he saved someone from being stabbed. Sick and tired of the pity when the perp loses, he chose to fight and he lost. Give him a participation trophy post mortem if it makes you feel any better.

 

[BCP]

This is one of those stories where it sounds horrible until you read that Wheelchair Guy was a complete douchebag with assault/attempted murder convictions and all sorts of other fuckery so then you don't give nearly as much of a fuck.

It's not like he shot an innocent grandpa who accidentally forgot to pay for a tape measure.

 

[TheHorta]

Frees up a closer parking space.

 

[OkieMike]

Frees up a closer parking space.

Don't get me started on that...

"Try to see past my disability and treat me like everyone else... "

Also...

"How dare that MF'er park in my special reserved parking spot!"

Mike

 

[wade2big]

The problem lies with the protection of criminals by the liberals at all cost no matter who they harm. The Officer could of dumped a 21 round mag into that perp and it wouldn't bother me, he saved someone from being stabbed. Sick and tired of the pity when the perp loses, he chose to fight and he lost. Give him a participation trophy post mortem if it makes you feel any better.

Had a person in the store felt threatened then a mag dump would be fine by me. An officer of the state almost never.

What you don’t realize is the state itself protects criminals by design. Police and the “justice” system force good people to live amongst scum which artificially inflates the criminal population among us. It can and has been extremely costly for men to rid their neighborhoods of trash. They themselves would be prosecuted for removing permanently the pedophile, drug dealer, or rapist from their neighborhood to protect their wives and daughters once and for all. They are then forced to rely on the state who at best temporarily houses the criminals at the expense of the taxpayer and then reinserts them into your neighborhood to prey again. Lately they aren’t removed hardly at all.

Allow criminals to thrive by making it illegal and costly for people to police their own, hire police to do just as much “good” as it takes to create an illusion of justice and “public safety”, come up with a catchy slogan like back the blue so people think cops are for the better and you now have a revolving door of justice and a reason to higher more cops for your safety and protection of course. Unfortunately history shows us police are loyal to the state which hands them a paycheck and whose main duty is to protect the state and force it’s agenda on you while squishing any thought of rebellion by force. It’s obvious as night and day.

 

[wade2big]

This is one of those stories where it sounds horrible until you read that Wheelchair Guy was a complete douchebag with assault/attempted murder convictions and all sorts of other fuckery so then you don't give nearly as much of a fuck.

It's not like he shot an innocent grandpa who accidentally forgot to pay for a tape measure.

He couldn't have existed long enough to build that resume in an armed society of moral men without the protection of the state’s police. Inflate the criminal population and then hire more police to “fight” the crime the state artificially and intentionally created. Then use the state’s police to control the law biding when needed. Here we are.

 

[pmclaine]

Frees up a closer parking space.

Heard he had government funded NODs for driving at night…..best our money can provide.

 

[candyx]

Had a person in the store felt threatened then a mag dump would be fine by me. An officer of the state almost never.

What you don’t realize is the state itself protects criminals by design. Police and the “justice” system force good people to live amongst scum which artificially inflates the criminal population among us. It can and has been extremely costly for men to rid their neighborhoods of trash. They themselves would be prosecuted for removing permanently the pedophile, drug dealer, or rapist from their neighborhood to protect their wives and daughters once and for all. They are then forced to rely on the state who at best temporarily houses the criminals at the expense of the taxpayer and then reinserts them into your neighborhood to prey again. Lately they aren’t removed hardly at all.

Allow criminals to thrive by making it illegal and costly for people to police their own, hire police to do just as much “good” as it takes to create an illusion of justice and “public safety”, come up with a catchy slogan like back the blue so people think cops are for the better and you now have a revolving door of justice and a reason to higher more cops for your safety and protection of course. Unfortunately history shows us police are loyal to the state which hands them a paycheck and whose main duty is to protect the state and force it’s agenda on you while squishing any thought of rebellion by force. It’s obvious as night and day.

Its a double edge sword for sure, anyone connected to the government is a danger.

 

[TexPatriot]

If a CHL carrier walked behind the guy telling him to stop and then shot him nine times or one time because he saw the guy was going into Lowes and his excuse was he couldn't verbally warn people to get back and people are too fucking stupid to not get out of the way of a guy on an electric scooter, that CHL carrier would have caught a murder charge.

Lets cut the bullshit. A hardware store is full of tools and implements; long handled rakes, shovels, rope, tarps, etc... I guarantee me or any other able bodied person could have immobilized the guy until police arrived. And then they could have shot him.

 

[candyx]

If a CHL carrier walked behind the guy telling him to stop and then shot him nine times or one time because he saw the guy was going into Lowes and his excuse was he couldn't verbally warn people to get back and people are too fucking stupid to not get out of the way of a guy on an electric scooter, that CHL carrier would have caught a murder charge.

Lets cut the bullshit. A hardware store is full of tools and implements; long handled rakes, shovels, rope, tarps, etc... I guarantee me or any other able bodied person could have immobilized the guy until police arrived. And then they could have shot him.

Nice pointed shove to the throat or steel rake over the face or the best the 10' long chain saw attachment for the weed wacker to de-limb him.

 

[JoshPutman]

Shoulda just thrown out the spike strips.

Maybe he could have just shot him in the leg

 

[Im2bent]

Should have performed a pit maneuver in the parking lot when he drove up instead of parking.

 

[candyx]

Shoulda just thrown out the spike strips.

Maybe he could have just shot him in the leg

I thought he was aiming at the batteries myself.

 

[rhsc]

Here's an analysis of the shooting by a non-LEO:




I think this guy goes out on a limb speculating about why Officer Remington decided to shoot when he did, but he also points out some interesting facts of the encounter, such as how Remington appeared to walk alongside Richards for some time, apparently with little fear of being attacked. Also, an attempt by Richards to provoke suicide-by-cop could be a factor here too. Finally, Remington firing into the store in the direction of an employee is nearly impossible to justify. This situation is pretty messed up from just about any perspective you care to examine it.

 

[TexPatriot]

Nice pointed shove to the throat or steel rake over the face or the best the 10' long chain saw attachment for the weed wacker to de-limb him.

Actually, I was thinking an Echo weed eater because at least they start.

Rope and drag him off, nail him back of the head with a can of Thompson's Water Seal, or just come up behind him and yank a wire loose from his ride, the possibilities are endless.

 

[TurboTrout]

Seems a little excessive, I mean just walk up some stairs

Guess with qualified immunity the default answer is get it on

If that was a private home owner, or security guard, it would be a pre determined 25-life trial, but some animals are more equal than others

 

[akmike47]

How has this not been posted?

 

[JoshPutman]

But he didn't restomp the groin!

 

[Pritch]

Bender

Hell ain't so bad you get to catch up with all your friends

and all the well trained ladies are down there

never have to worry bout heating either JS

Just dont be good enough to get the pineapple treatment the wrong way