Deputy shot in head while sitting in cruiser

[Bullfrog08]

We aren't though. I understand why you feel that way, and sometimes I have too, but we aren't. When I look at my 4 year old daughter, I know that we can't give up. I don't have that luxury. Our generations allowed this fucking mess to happen on our watch, and it's up to us to fix it, not dump gas on it and laugh while it burns.

Oh, I feel for your kids, I do! Believe me! With my deepest, truest heart, I do!

Its why I chose not have any. Problem is, we cant even have civil discourse over why cops are being shot. Look at the personal insults you have thrown in debate. I know they have been thrown your way too. I see it! Its two ways....

If we cant even admit there is a reason cops are being a target, we cant fix shit!

There is no fixing this......I wish there was, even if just for your kids sake.

 

[wade2big]

Elon Musk acts that way?

They don’t ALL act that way.

 

[Jsp556]

We aren't though. I understand why you feel that way, and sometimes I have too, but we aren't. When I look at my 4 year old daughter, I know that we can't give up. I don't have that luxury. Our generations allowed this fucking mess to happen on our watch, and it's up to us to fix it, not dump gas on it and laugh while it burns.

So what’s your solution? I’m not trying to be a dick, I’d like to hear how you fix it.

We both agree, government is the problem. We differ on our opinion of what role the police play in government and society.

My honest opinion is that this experiment we called a constitutional republic is over. The great melting pot was filled with water and oil, it can’t mix. Multiculturalism killed us.

Balkanization is the only thing that could save the union and only if the federal government were cut back to the scope that the founders planned. People get along with others that share their culture. Again, water and oil don’t mix.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

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That awkward moment when you make claims about how bad Africa is because " it doesn't have a govt".....and use slavery as an example.......only for slavery to be more prevalent in countries with strong and oppressive govts

What I said was true. Also, try an overlay of countries without an effective government and you'll probably learn that Africa isn't the only place without them.

You're doing a victory dance in your feces again, but you didn't do anything but prove my point. It's a shame you lack the intelligence to understand that.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

So what’s your solution? I’m not trying to be a dick, I’d like to hear how you fix it.

We both agree, government is the problem. We differ on our opinion of what role the police play in government and society.

My honest opinion is that this experiment we called a constitutional republic is over. The great melting pot was filled with water and oil, it can’t mix. Multiculturalism killed us.

Balkanization is the only thing that could save the union and only if the federal government were cut back to the scope that the founders planned. People get along with others that share their culture. Again, water and oil don’t mix.

I don't disagree with anything you've said there. Not one word of it.

And that is a proposed solution. It is even a viable solution, even if it seems hopeless. We need a massive reset, and we will get one eventually, maybe even in our lifetimes, or maybe not. So, in the meantime, why don't we discuss ideas that move things in the right direction instead of screaming at the end of a cog while a giant machine grinds us into the ground?

 

[wade2big]

So what’s your solution? I’m not trying to be a dick, I’d like to hear how you fix it.

We both agree, government is the problem. We differ on our opinion of what role the police play in government and society.

My honest opinion is that this experiment we called a constitutional republic is over. The great melting pot was filled with water and oil, it can’t mix. Multiculturalism killed us.

Balkanization is the only thing that could save the union and only if the federal government were cut back to the scope that the founders planned. People get along with others that share their culture. Again, water and oil don’t mix.

There is only but one solution and backing the blue isn’t part of it and the men in that “profession” aren’t on the right side of it. In fact they would be tasked with perpetrating violence on behalf of the government in order to protect the status quo as this has been their job the whole time. Only a fool believes otherwise.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

There is only but one solution and backing the blue isn’t part of it and the men in that “profession” aren’t on the right side of it. In fact they would be tasked with perpetrating violence on behalf of the government in order to protect the status quo as this has been their job the whole time. Only a fool believes otherwise.

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You are an absolutist. It's like a disability.

This isn't that black and white.

There are plenty of positions one can take between

1. Fuuuuck the cops! Kill them all ahhhhh!

And

2. Sucking the thin blue dick.


Most people, myself included fall somewhere in between. You think anyone who doesn't want to do drive by's on police stations is a boot licker, and that just not the way it is. There are plenty of things in life that are fucked up and need fixing, but also serve a purpose. You don't automatically throw them into a fire because they don't function at peak efficiency. Life isn't that simple

 

[DocRDS]

So not all isis members are bad guys?

Some isis members are pretty good guys?

Yeah a group that kidnaps and enslaves people could definitely force people to join against their will. If your entire town is going to kill you if you don't join, you do what you gotta do to survive.

Keep trying though, one day you'll get it.

 

[wade2big]

You are an absolutist. It's like a disability.

This isn't that black and white.

There are plenty of positions one can take between

1. Fuuuuck the cops! Kill them all ahhhhh!

And

2. Sucking the thin blue dick.


Most people, myself included fall somewhere in between. You think anyone who doesn't want to do drive by's on police stations is a boot licker, and that just not the way it is. There are plenty of things in life that are fucked up and need fixing, but also serve a purpose. You don't automatically throw them into a fire because they don't function at peak efficiency. Life isn't that simple

I don’t call for violence or celebrate the death of anyone. I just happen to dislike people that work for an abusive, thieving, murderous gov’t and that goes double for those that carry a gun to defend it and force it onto others for a paycheck. LEO are the only reason gov’ts can exist. Tolerable ones or not. Couldn’t have tyranny without them.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Yeah a group that kidnaps and enslaves people could definitely force people to join against their will. If your entire town is going to kill you if you don't join, you do what you gotta do to survive.

Keep trying though, one day you'll get it.

This literally happened to people in the SS. I wanted to say it earlier, but it's hard to fight 6 people at a time in this conversation, especially when at least one of them is a bona-fide moron.

There were absolutely good people in the SS. When someone sticks a gun to the head of your children, you'll do about whatever they want. This isn't television, and good people can be forced into horrible things. It's happened all over the world.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Bruh.....you are making excuses for ISIS members and have claimed some SS were good guys...

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are drunk right now

Turn off the computer, go to bed, sober up, and think about the things your world view is making you say...and well readdress this in the morning.

See, you're taking out your ass again.

Imagine you're born in Iraq in about 1995. When the US puts boots on the ground, you're a child. You grow up in an occupied country. Most of your male relatives have been maimed or killed fighting the US occupying force. You've been forced to follow the rules of a foreign government all of your life. Then, they pack up and begin to leave, and you join a group of "freedom fighters" determined to rid your country of invaders. From their prospective, it's red dawn. In fact, if you're a military aged male in Iraq in 2016 and you don't join isis, you're a real bitch. It's all about perspective.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

You are simping for the SS and ISIS and have the audacity to call other people morons?

Lol

I wish I could have this conversation with you in person.

 

[45-90]

A cop gets shot in the head while seated in his patrol car...a horrible murderous tragedy...if he was one of the few "reasonablely good guys", or a welcome end to a dirt bag cop as bad as the criminal who murdered him. As for the murderous dirt bag, this was not his first offense, and most likely released many times by liberal prosecutors and judges. Cops mostly do not uphold the constitution, they are sworn to, just like all the rest of the government officials...they all go along with tyranny and tyrants to keep their jobs and pensions. So there are no good cops...when 3 in 23,000 stand up against tyranny, as of the current count standing against the FBIs thuggery behavior.
Scumbag cops have earned their disgusting reputation, ...and the others who know are also involved, or look other way...hence no good cops. Probably 90% if cops should be arrested, or removed, as departments are full of corruption, and unlawful & unconstitutional cops.

 

[Lange Carabine]

Yeah a group that kidnaps and enslaves people could definitely force people to join against their will. If your entire town is going to kill you if you don't join, you do what you gotta do to survive.

Keep trying though, one day you'll get it.

They cant force you to do anything. You make a choice.
You can stand in your convictions and suffered the consequences.
Or you can bow down and join them to stay alive, for a little while yet anyway.
However, by doing what you gotta do to survive you make yourself a willing participant in whatever evil this group intends to perpetrate and as such you loose your good guy status.

 

[Lange Carabine]

This literally happened to people in the SS. I wanted to say it earlier, but it's hard to fight 6 people at a time in this conversation, especially when at least one of them is a bona-fide moron.

There were absolutely good people in the SS. When someone sticks a gun to the head of your children, you'll do about whatever they want. This isn't television, and good people can be forced into horrible things. It's happened all over the world.

Are you really stupid enough to believe evil people like this will spare your family's lives just because you chose to knuckle under and do what they wanted?
People like that will get their jollies by making you stand there watching while they do unspeakable things to your wife and children, and when they're finished they'll put a bullet in their heads, and yours too if you're lucky.
And if they let you live so you can " do what they wanted" you too will have chosen to become a willing participant in whatever evil they plan to carry out because you made that choice based on emotion rather than discernment and wisdom. So, there goes your good guy status also.
There were no good people in the SS, and there are no good people in ISIS. They were/are all willing participants by choice.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

"If you don't join isis, you're a real bitch" - hecouldgoalltheway 2023



@Bullfrog08, I did you one better

maybe I should have uses smaller words. You may never understand anyways because you are likely the coward you appear to be anyways. I'll try again..

Imagine America was invaded and occupied for 20 years. During that time they killed off much of your family and ravaged your country. You had to live under their oppressive rules. Then, when you are of military age, they weaken and begin to pull out. You wouldn't pick up a rifle and fight? You wouldn't fight to repel the invaders? I mean you personally probably wouldn't, that's why this idea has to be explained again for you, but any man worth his salt would join that fight. There were Nazis and people in the SS who believed they had been invaded too, and repelling the jews and other fringe groups was neccessary to save their country. It's no different than what was described above as a solution to save America. The destruction of diversity has been mentioned in this conversation as a thing required to save America. Are you unable to see that it is the same thing the Nazis were trying to accomplish? They were losing their country to millions of invaders, and they tried to stop it. You probably don't understand how quickly something like that could start here with these border jumpers. It has played out all over the world many times. It doesn't require every SS soldier to be a bad person. Not every one of them was gassing babies, most of them were fighting in battlefields on the front lines in open battle. If you can't grasp these concepts, I'll stop wasting my time with you. I probably should have stopped long ago because I figure you're about 30, have lived a life devoid of actual struggle, and can only see through a set of eyes that know nothing of the world beyond your front door. But hey, I've been wrong before.

 

[M4orturnate]

Be careful. They’re your friends until they aren’t.

Not too worried. Like most things the truth is somewhere in the middle. Lots of guys hate the laws to unfortunately cowardice is a issue and most cops dont have other marketable skills.

 

[Ronws]

You're talking out of your ass now.

 

[eca7891]

You guys still on this?

 

[Ronws]

Tell me, at what point do you become responsible for your own actions?

Do you get a grace period of like 3 Jews or something?...but by the time you stuff that 4th one in the over that's all on you?

"A man's got to know his limitations." - Inspector Harry Callahan.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Tell me, at what point do you become responsible for your own actions?

Do you get a grace period of like 3 Jews or something?...but by the time you stuff that 4th one in the over that's all on you?

Your ignorance of ww2 is showing. You realize that the Ukranians manned many of the death camps right? Them and a few other groups. Bosnians and a few others. Most, like 97% most of the German soldiers were fighting on the front. Most of them never saw a Jew die in WW2. Stick around for more shit that you have no idea about.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

He says dodging the question

Tell me, how many Jews do you get to stuff into an over before it's your fault?

Or is itike American idol and it depends entirely on how tragic your backstory is?

If your an orphan you get 1 free jew

A black crippled orphan you get 2 free Jews

You overcame childhood cancer and had to walk up hill to chemo....both ways...well you get the mega pass and can kill as many as you want

So is it 29? You aren't even 30 yet are you?

Don't worry son, some day you'll mature to a point where infantile blabbering will cease to amuse you too. Well, maybe.

 

[96coal449]

To be honest, I haven't read this whole thread. Just the last page.

Yes, our police depts have become definitely corrupted. I tend to look at the sheriff's ang their departments a bit differently. Yes some sheriffs are corrupt too but, at least the people of that county can fire their sheriff and replace him. Lets remember, the sheriff, supreme law of land within his given county.

Many of you know me a bit better by now, since I've actually involved myself in conversations instead of just reading. Some may have noticed, I am always pushing for unity. With the exception of the glowies and trolls, of course.

Do we know what the motive was behind this deputies death? May he acted unjustly and paid a price? Was this a gang initiation type thing?
Or, a hate crime fueled by propaganda?

The motive needs to be understood before we can push forwards, to better our communities, and restore our republic.
United we stand.

 

[MadDuner]

To be honest, I haven't read this whole thread. Just the last page.

Yes, our police depts have become definitely corrupted. I tend to look at the sheriff's ang their departments a bit differently. Yes some sheriffs are corrupt too but, at least the people of that county can fire their sheriff and replace him. Lets remember, the sheriff, supreme law of land within his given county.

Many of you know me a bit better by now, since I've actually involved myself in conversations instead of just reading. Some may have noticed, I am always pushing for unity. With the exception of the glowies and trolls, of course.

Do we know what the motive was behind this deputies death? May he acted unjustly and paid a price? Was this a gang initiation type thing?
Or, a hate crime fueled by propaganda?

The motive needs to be understood before we can push forwards, to better our communities, and restore our republic.
United we stand.

The media and LE orgs will only release the motive if it fits their agenda.

 

[eca7891]

And why did these Ukrainians support Germany during WW2?

How about you add that little tidbit before you paint them as willing nazis?

 

[96coal449]

The media and LE orgs will only release the motive if it fits their agenda.

Yes..... very understood. The propaganda machine is intensively huge.
Although, we all seem to find, the truth usually comes out in the end.

 

[W54/XM-388]

maybe I should have uses smaller words. You may never understand anyways because you are likely the coward you appear to be anyways. I'll try again..

Imagine America was invaded and occupied for 20 years. During that time they killed off much of your family and ravaged your country. You had to live under their oppressive rules. Then, when you are of military age, they weaken and begin to pull out. You wouldn't pick up a rifle and fight? You wouldn't fight to repel the invaders? I mean you personally probably wouldn't, that's why this idea has to be explained again for you, but any man worth his salt would join that fight. There were Nazis and people in the SS who believed they had been invaded too, and repelling the jews and other fringe groups was neccessary to save their country. It's no different than what was described above as a solution to save America. The destruction of diversity has been mentioned in this conversation as a thing required to save America. Are you unable to see that it is the same thing the Nazis were trying to accomplish? They were losing their country to millions of invaders, and they tried to stop it. You probably don't understand how quickly something like that could start here with these border jumpers. It has played out all over the world many times. It doesn't require every SS soldier to be a bad person. Not every one of them was gassing babies, most of them were fighting in battlefields on the front lines in open battle. If you can't grasp these concepts, I'll stop wasting my time with you. I probably should have stopped long ago because I figure you're about 30, have lived a life devoid of actual struggle, and can only see through a set of eyes that know nothing of the world beyond your front door. But hey, I've been wrong before.

Free bit of advice, it NEVER turns out well for anyone to try to express anything other than extreme hatred for all things and all people connected with the National Socialist Party and those police and military who "just obeyed orders" and "just did their duty".

A lot of the horrors that German troops did all over Europe has been slowly whitewashed over, as those that saw the atrocities died off and those who listened to their first hand accounts are very old and nobody pays them any attention.
(The Japanese were incredibly more evil, but we whitewashed that over in exchange for them pretty well)

It's one of those 3rd rail things, the only way to win is not to touch it.

 

[higginsworksforme]

Popo got caught lackin'.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Free bit of advice, it NEVER turns out well for anyone to try to express anything other than extreme hatred for all things and all people connected with the National Socialist Party and those police and military who "just obeyed orders" and "just did their duty".

A lot of the horrors that German troops did all over Europe has been slowly whitewashed over, as those that saw the atrocities died off and those who listened to their first hand accounts are very old and nobody pays them any attention.
(The Japanese were incredibly more evil, but we whitewashed that over in exchange for them pretty well)

It's one of those 3rd rail things, the only way to win is not to touch it.

I disagree. It's human nature to paint with a broad brush, but it is also the least accurate way to portray people. The same people in this conversation trying to justify why this cop was killed and saying things like "I don't care when they die" would have have been standing in line to wear the swastika. They just can't see it.

Imagine a scenario where a new president a few years from now hypes everyone up on removing the illegals from America by force. Offers well paid jobs and tugs at their patriotism. We will gather them up and send them back to their countries by force! The crowds cheer and the betas update their social media profile pics to display their new uniforms. The logistics fall apart quickly when the reality hits that housing and deporting so many people is an impossible task. Slowly at first, maybe in reaction to a camp riot, the killing begins. Then it gets easier. You find the people suited for it, the ones who don't mind the killing, and then you get good at it. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[FWoo45]

Don't care about the dick measuring contest. Do we have any actual info on this situation? Smoked by his girlfriend for cheating? About to testify against a dirt bag cop? 13/90 doing what they do?

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

The irony of an SS and ISIS apologist calling other people Nazis



Still haven't answered the question, at which point do you become responsible for your own actions?

I haven't defended anyone, but I knew you couldn't understand that. Frank should have everyone here take an IQ test when they set up their account, and idiots should be color coded.

Then someone like you says something... you know, like you do, and then instead of responding we see the red icon with orange stripes or whatever, and then we can simply avoid contact instead of wasting our breath on a moron.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

At which point do you become responsible for your actions?

It's a simple question you for some reason won't answer?

Or is murdering an entire family in the Cambodian killing fields fine so long as you are a "poor boy from a poor family"?

Let's break it down further since my attempts to make you see perspective were as wasted as your public education.

Responsible to whom?

Responsibility requires an additional agent.

Responsible to the law?
The government?
God?
Themselves?
A war crimes tribunal?
You?

Who are these people responsible to?
You speak like you're the deciding factor is how people are viewed for their crimes, but I've got bad news for you Skippy, nobody on this earth is worried about your judgement except maybe your children, and then that typically ends pretty early in their lives. So, responsible to whom?

 

[DocRDS]

Again, At what point do you become responsible for your actions?

Lets just review where you are at from where you came from. You have brought up Nazis, SS, ISIS to justify your celebration that a cop was executed on the street.

You have expressed support for violating the constitutional rights to a fair trial simply because people belong to the wrong group or are evil. Not only that you celebrate the death penalty without trial. THere are a lot of bad people who don't get the death penalty. Trying to cast this as "good" or "bad" is laughable..do we execute petty thieves? Not all crime justifies the death penalty.

You need help. A LOT of help.

When are YOU responsible for your actions. You're a sick little boy my friend. Very sick.
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@W54/XM-388 has a point, but I don't give a shit about being canceled. I know exactly what I'm in for and I know exactly what they(mcduckface and my son Bullshitfrog) are up to. I simply just don't care anymore. There were a lot of atrocities committed. There were lesser crimes committed. But that doesn't mean we betray our beliefs in fundamental rights of man. We put those guilty of crimes on trial. We tried to give a fair trial. Not everyone was Himmler or Hitler. That doesn't make them "good" but it also may mean their crimes didn't rise to summary execution. What about the average whermacht soldier? Is it a crime to fight in the losing side of a war? Nope. But I think you are falling for the BS that duckface above is trying to use...well all Nazis were bad so we can do do X. I will reiterate: even if 100% of Nazis are bad, they still deserve a fair trial. Its a "poison the well argument" we start with police, but jump to SS, Nazis or ISIS.

Rights are rights. I beleive in the bill of rights and do not substitute vengeance for justice whatever the mob says. Our amendments do not have exceptions like "unless they were like total dicks". No exceptions. Fair Trials, No Cruel or Unusual Punishment. Face your Accuser. We don't throw that away simply because the crowd gets angry and wants a lynching. I'll die on that hill. No Bear pit troll has more wisdom than our founding fathers even if they did own slaves (another poison the well argument).

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Yeah but at the same time.....you also said some SS were good guys......soooooo

You're another absolutist. It is the primary reason that I know you're very young and immature. Life is not black and white, it's gray as fuck, and it isn't simple, it's as muddy as the Mississippi River. The history you are carrying around in your head is government propaganda. You have so much to learn.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Your attempts at diffusion are noted



Still haven't answered the question.

At which point are you responsible for your actions?



I can see why a defender of ISIS has apprehensions about answering this.

I answered your question 20 different ways, you just lack the intelligence to understand the answers. Nobody can help you.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

"If you don't join ISIS you are a little bitch"


I dunno, that statement sounds pretty absolutist to me

Taken out of context like the low browed moron you are.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

No you didn't


At which point do you become responsible for your actions?

Or do you need me to ask you in German? Farsi?

I'll try again, one last time.

Responsibility requires an accounting entity.

Responsible to who?

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

You typed them in defense of ISIS

You are rare when among dolts. You can't grasp the simplest concepts.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

So your argument is morality and accountability are relative?

So theoretically you could make the argument pol pot did nothing wrong?

And tbe khmer rouge are not responsible for Cambodia?

You're almost there. There may be hope for you yet, but pay attention, this is the important part:

That SS Nazi gets medals and a paycheck from his government for his role in ww2. His family adores him for what they see as neccessary to "perserve their culture". He believes that he is doing the right thing for the people he feels responsible to and for.

After it's over and he's tied to a post and killed by firing squad, they see it differently and hold him responsible as they see fit.


It's no different for an American soldier. Joe Smith kicks in a door in Iraq and kills a man with an AK. To that man and his family, he's an invader. Joe Smith is doing what he thinks is right to the people he feels responsible for and too, but to the man of that Iraqi, he's an ss nazi scumbag in a different uniform, and he's defending his home, much like any of you would if an invading army came in and kicked in your front door.

None of this shit is black and white.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

So you are justifying atrocities so long as you feel you are correct?

You are the one defending the claim "some SS are good guys".....

So am I to believe you agree with the final solution?

Unbelievable.

How do you function on a daily basis. Does your mother still cut up your cheerios for you?

 

[BurtG]

Even I realize we need some small limited gov


But all the pigs here be like
“ if your want prosecute the cops civilly criminally professionally when they break the law , YOU WANT NO COPS “



Fucking criminal scumbags breaking the law all the time. AND enforcing the unconstitutional dictates of the oligarchs.


If texas cop mrap enforcing lockdowns on private business didn’t teach you anything I don’t know what will


And lol at “cops are just protecting people “. BULLSHIT. at this point they are just Pirates for and protectors of the oligarchy

 

[EddieNFL]

None of this shit is black and white.

Stuffing defenseless people in ovens doesn't seem very gray to me.

 

[Bullfrog08]

"If you don't join isis, you're a real bitch" - hecouldgoalltheway 2023



@Bullfrog08, I did you one better

Now do pedophilia cults!

 

[Bullfrog08]

No you didn't


At which point do you become responsible for your actions?

Or do you need me to ask you in German? Farsi?

Ding ding ding.....at some point your moral compass has to say enough!

Shoot me!....I dont want to participate in your cult! Its corrupt, its nasty, its ugly!

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

The saying about how strong men make easy times and easy times make weak men has never been easier to see than right here in this conversation. Men who have been raised in the easiest time in human history in the richest country on earth, who never knew struggle, never knew real fear, have never seen the future they think they want played out, but are absolutely certain that they are correct are cancer. Age and maturity teaches you that life isn't as simple as it seems when you're young. Some people never learn this lesson at any age. The older I get the less sure I am of anything because I've been wrong so many times about situations, historical and recent, because I was brainwashed by some idiot teachers with a whitewashed version of world history. If you're making declarations about entire groups of people, it's ignorance, plain and simple, especially if it is decades or centuries ago. You just simply don't know what you don't know, but it also requires a level of cognitive dissonance that is rare among people smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time. Some of you are just idiots, some are trolls, and some simply lack the maturity to see through the bullshit. The good news for everyone is that the people I'm talking about don't have any real effect on anything. Your lives are unimportant, you'll influence nobody of note in your days on this planet, and you'll die quietly and be forgotten quickly. As it should be..

 

[higginsworksforme]

The saying ... be..

You expect us to read all that?

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

You can't claim " morality is relative"

Then make a definitive claim "some SS were good guys"

And have that not be a representation of your moral compass.

And Using your own logic, if morality is relative.....you cannot then claim the Holocaust was an inherently immoral event.....can you?

I can make the claim that morality is relative, because it is.

I can make the definitive claim that "some SS were good guys" because they certainly were. That's a mathematical certainty.

My moral compass is not a part of this discussion. I've never attempted to insert my own morality on any of the groups we've discussed here, even though you've tried to tie me to each of them in a weak attempt to demonize what should be a rational conversation about perception, but you're not a rational person.

I have made no claims about the morality of the holocaust, one way or the other. Nobody needs to declare that exterminating millions of people is immoral. At least I thought nobody needed to declare it until I had a discussion with you and the rest of the funky bunch.

 

[Lange Carabine]

I can make the definitive claim that "some SS were good guys" because they certainly were.

Name one

 

[higginsworksforme]

Name one

Franz Schlechtnacht

 

[Ronws]

Latest news is that they have arrested the suspect who shot the deputy. Garden variety paranoid schizophrenic off his meds. The mother had called authorities a number of times and he was motivated to self-harm. But they could not arrest him for not taking meds.

He bought the guns same as anyone else does. Maybe he lied on the ATFs form 4473. Does he get extra points for ignoring the ATF?