Covid death survey

[supercorndogs]

I didn’t dodge fucking thing so how bout you tone it down and work on your fucking reading comprehension

The nurses and doctors aren’t using it because it’s a waste of fucking time by the time finally admit themselves. They’re already past the point of it making a difference “if” it would’ve made a difference. The thing that shows the most improvement is the steroids and laying them on their stomachs.

The health care workers are feeling pretty helpless at this point. Nothing is a sure fix for it or even garanteed to help dong what they can for them and making sure rheyew comfortable and hoping they pull through. Some do and some dont

So they are being given it, but they aren't because it doesn't work.

Anti-inflammatory activity of ivermectin in late-stage COVID-19 may reflect activation of systemic glycine receptors

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Ivermectin may be a clinically useful anti-inflammatory agent for late-stage COVID-19"​

How do they know its a waste of time? I would venture a guess, they do not know it doesn't work in late stages, like they didn't know it works in the early stages. They have no idea because of shit like this.

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

 

[TurboTrout]

Know personally, as in see or talk to daily to weekly, 7 or so people who popped hot for the wuhan flu, none went to the hospital, must just took the 2wk covidcation and watched Netflix, caught up on household stuff and paperwork and screwed around at home, one actually got decently sick, but not enough to bother with a hospital or meds or anything.

but yeah, like everyone you talk to knows like 10 people who died from it, like running the odds of that, yeahhh nope

 

[HogsLife]

So they are being given it, but they aren't because it doesn't work.

Anti-inflammatory activity of ivermectin in late-stage COVID-19 may reflect activation of systemic glycine receptors

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Ivermectin may be a clinically useful anti-inflammatory agent for late-stage COVID-19"​

How do they know its a waste of time? I would venture a guess, they do not know it doesn't work in late stages, like they didn't know it works in the early stages. They have no idea because of shit like this.

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

Me? I have no idea. Im not a doctor or a nurse or have anything to do with the medical field I get my first hand info from my wife who speaks relating to the past 2 years she’s worked directly with these Patients on the COVID units 3-5x a week.

I’ll be sure to let her know that the Bear Pit web MD’s on Snipers Hide feel she’s not doing quite enough.. Its probably a conspiracy where the Drs and Nurses are purposely not caring or providing for the Covid patients just to pump the numbers up.. smh

crazy how entire ICU’s are so full
Of COVID patients that there’s no room for the other ICU patients and instead of 2:1 patient to nurse ratio. It’s like 6:1 and everyone that comes in is damn near knocking on deaths door already

 

[GetReal]

I know ALOT of ppl who got COVID and recovered.

Can't say I know of ANYONE, personally, dying from just COVID. Mostly just anecdotes of ppl who died WITH Covid.... but with accompanying co-morbidities.

That reality makes the death stats truly hard to rely on. I saved a story of a fellow who died in a motorcycle crash but WITH COVID being listed as a COVID death.

I think if we didn;t have internet, cable TV news and instant worldwide information about eveything, this pandemic would be much less "deadly."

 

[TurboTrout]

Plus now that the election and all is over, power and money have shifted about as much as it’s going to and the hysteria is running out of gas, this just occurred to the “experts”

CDC's Laboratory Outreach Communication System (LOCS) | CDC

www.cdc.gov

And lest we forget a REAL noble prize pioneer expert interview about fauchi and his lack of understanding of PCRs, back before the topic was kool...oh yeah Mullins also INVENTED the PCR



*was NOT able to find this video searching YouTube, searched on DuckDuckGo to find the YouTube video.....

 

[HogsLife]

I know ALOT of ppl who got COVID and recovered.

Can't say I know of ANYONE, personally, dying from just COVID. Mostly just anecdotes of ppl who died WITH Covid.... but with accompanying co-morbidities.

That reality makes the death stats truly hard to rely on. I saved a story of a fellow who died in a motorcycle crash but WITH COVID being listed as a COVID death.

I think if we didn;t have internet, cable TV news and instant worldwide information about eveything, this pandemic would be much less "deadly."

I agree. COVID is a real deal and it’s killing a lot of folks. Numbers wise? It’s a drop in the bucket. It’s more the fact that it’s overloading out healthcare facilities and workers

Bout the only thing I believe with this entire debacle is COVID is real and you never know how it’s gonna affect you until you u get it

-Vaccine and vaccine mandates are bull shit.

-We all knew the FDA was gonna approve the vaccines. They’re getting lobbied, and there too much at stake $$$$ wise at this point for them mot To approve it. Heads would roll and law suits would pile up if at this point it was deemed unsafe

-Phizer making $6 Billion this year on the vaccine. You think if they knew it was worthless or dangerous they’d tell
You about it it? Fuck no. They’d just keep pushing your boosters and pocketing your money
.
tnis is what happens when Healthcatw and Government is mixed. no one trusts the healthcare field because it tainted with politics agendas

 

[GetReal]

-We all knew the FDA was gonna approve the vaccines. They’re getting lobbied, and there too much at stake $$$$ wise at this point for them mot To approve it. Heads would roll and law suits would pile up if at this point it was deemed unsafe

-Phizer making $6 Billion this year on the vaccine. You think if they knew it was worthless or dangerous they’d tell
You about it it? Fuck no. They’d just keep pushing your boosters and pocketing your money
.
tnis is what happens when Healthcatw and Government is mixed. no one trusts the healthcare field because it tainted with politics agendas

The thing about this FDA "approval" is that its totally different than the usual FDA approval, that only happens after 5-7 years of clinical trials.

The claims of FDA approval are a lie.

 

[TurboTrout]

I agree. COVID is a real deal and it’s killing a lot of folks. Numbers wise? It’s a drop in the bucket. It’s more the fact that it’s overloading out healthcare facilities and workers

Bout the only thing I believe with this entire debacle is COVID is real and you never know how it’s gonna affect you until you u get it

-Vaccine and vaccine mandates are bull shit.

-We all knew the FDA was gonna approve the vaccines. They’re getting lobbied, and there too much at stake $$$$ wise at this point for them mot To approve it. Heads would roll and law suits would pile up if at this point it was deemed unsafe

-Phizer making $6 Billion this year on the vaccine. You think if they knew it was worthless or dangerous they’d tell
You about it it? Fuck no. They’d just keep pushing your boosters and pocketing your money
.
tnis is what happens when Healthcatw and Government is mixed. no one trusts the healthcare field because it tainted with politics agendas

It’s a business


Dangerous, got to do the math, if the numbers are good they'd still sell

They are a business, as long as the rewards to the company outweighs the financial risks, it’s going to be a go.

Lawsuits Show Pattern of Drug Companies Hiding Side Effects: Report

Court records increasingly show that drug companies are waiting until they have maximized profits to reveal that their drugs are linked to dangerous side effects, according to a new report.

www.aboutlawsuits.com

 

[HogsLife]

It’s a business


Dangerous, got to do the math, if the numbers are good they'd still sell

They are a business, as long as the rewards to the company outweighs the financial risks, it’s going to be a go.

Lawsuits Show Pattern of Drug Companies Hiding Side Effects: Report

Court records increasingly show that drug companies are waiting until they have maximized profits to reveal that their drugs are linked to dangerous side effects, according to a new report.

www.aboutlawsuits.com

Oh it’s 100% a business. Got diddly shit to do with our “safety and well being”. Never has.

 

[supercorndogs]

Nobody trusts the medical field because they were complicit is spreading the bullshit. The misreported deaths to collect checks, they put people on vents for no other reason than to get a check. They forwarded bullshit guidance not to seek early treatment. They wrote fraudulent papers about the dangers of HQ.

I agree. COVID is a real deal and it’s killing a lot of folks. Numbers wise? It’s a drop in the bucket. It’s more the fact that it’s overloading out healthcare facilities and workers

Bout the only thing I believe with this entire debacle is COVID is real and you never know how it’s gonna affect you until you u get it

-Vaccine and vaccine mandates are bull shit.

-We all knew the FDA was gonna approve the vaccines. They’re getting lobbied, and there too much at stake $$$$ wise at this point for them mot To approve it. Heads would roll and law suits would pile up if at this point it was deemed unsafe

-Phizer making $6 Billion this year on the vaccine. You think if they knew it was worthless or dangerous they’d tell
You about it it? Fuck no. They’d just keep pushing your boosters and pocketing your money
.
tnis is what happens when Healthcatw and Government is mixed. no one trusts the healthcare field because it tainted with politics agendas

Those are major medical publications that are saying Dr.S are not doing enough. I posted it, I didn't write it. You came in speaking with authority, "about all these people are definitely dying of the COVID" and "And all these ICUs are full" and reached a point where you admitted "you have no idea." Which may be the only fully true thing you have written.

So maybe you should tone it the fuck down a bit.......

 

[TurboTrout]

Nobody trusts the medical field because they were complicit is spreading the bullshit. The misreported deaths to collect checks, they put people on vents for no other reason than to get a check. They forwarded bullshit guidance not to seek early treatment. They wrote fraudulent papers about the dangers of HQ.


Those are major medical publications that are saying Dr.S are not doing enough. I posted it, I didn't write it. You came in speaking with authority, "about all these people are definitely dying of the COVID" and "And all these ICUs are full" and reached a point where you admitted "you have no idea." Which may be the only fully true thing you have written.

So maybe you should tone it the fuck down a bit.......

Do you know what you call a empty ICU or hospital? You do know they are also a business, a ton of empty beds is called a hospital for not too long.

 

[ChristianSilver]

Myself and my wife were both being treated for covid. Happened so fast, I currently recovering at home now. My wife passed away on the 20th of this month.

So sorry to hear about your loss. Stay strong, hope you have a speedy recovery.
Prayers for youBe Blessed.

 

[supercorndogs]

Do you know what you call a empty ICU or hospital? You do know they are also a business, a ton of empty beds is called a hospital for not too long.

On top that many hospitals reduced staff during COVID because they weren't making any money. Now they are still short handed. But its once again a matter of, is COVID killing people or is it policies leading to the most deaths. And what percentage of these deaths would have occurred without COVID. I know if they can send everyone a 1200 dollar check, and seniors and congressmen hundreds of thousands of dollars to stay home with their kids. They could have sent out COVID early treatment packs.

 

[TurboTrout]

On top that many hospitals reduced staff during COVID because they weren't making any money. Now they are still short handed. But its once again a matter of, is COVID killing people or is it policies leading to the most deaths. And what percentage of these deaths would have occurred without COVID. I know if they can send everyone a 1200 dollar check, and seniors and congressmen hundreds of thousands of dollars to stay home with their kids. They could have sent out COVID early treatment packs.

Covid was very much the new 9/11

Take a shitty situation, induce hysteria, use it to sell fear porn, invoke it when needed, profit

 

[HogsLife]

Nobody trusts the medical field because they were complicit is spreading the bullshit. The misreported deaths to collect checks, they put people on vents for no other reason than to get a check. They forwarded bullshit guidance not to seek early treatment. They wrote fraudulent papers about the dangers of HQ.


Those are major medical publications that are saying Dr.S are not doing enough. I posted it, I didn't write it. You came in speaking with authority, "about all these people are definitely dying of the COVID" and "And all these ICUs are full" and reached a point where you admitted "you have no idea." Which may be the only fully true thing you have written.

So maybe you should tone it the fuck down a bit.......

why in tho fuck would I feel the need to dodge your question exactly? I read your question to my wife this morning after she got off from wotk and then gave you her answer exactly as she told me. I ain’t dodging shit Just cause you don’t like the answer.

I speak regarding the hospital and ICU my nurse wife works at and what she tells
Me. She’s just as conservative as we are.She sees the agendas, Weary of the vaccine, and still hasn’t gotten it and has to deal with literally every one she works with taking about how stupid non- vaccinated people are and how they should be rounded up and put into camps..

All that doesn’t change get the fact of what she deals with all week. Now
You can believe what you want, maybe she’s lying to me and her and the doctors are all Mixed up in some big conspiracy against the rest of us..

She’s says her ICU is full of Covid. And COVID being the primary and only reason they were admitted . I believe her. I gotta listen to her vent about it every day after work for 2 hours on how one of her patients wife just died in the next room
and how shortly after hearing she passed, he started ceashing and passed away. I hear stories like that on a regular basis.

Youre right tho, maybe she did in fact die from a train wreck and he died shortly after in a sky diving accident ..

 

[BufordTJustice]

Myself and my wife were both being treated for covid. Happened so fast, I currently recovering at home now. My wife passed away on the 20th of this month.

So sorry for your loss. My prayers for you and your families.

 

[HogsLife]

And just to be clear. I agree 100% with when this all kicked off last year, numbers were being pumped up and it was used to instill fear and push a political agenda.

At that time my wife was working in CA, shorty thereafter I moved my family out of this commie shithole and I to a free state. And that’s where she’s working g now

 

[kentuckyMarksman]

My next door neighbor got Covid last December and died. The owner of a gun shop around the corner from me got it and died. A family friend of mine also got it and died.

My cousin got it, spent time in the hospital, but recovered. A co-worker wife and 2 year old daughter got it, and recovered. My wife's aunt got it, and recovered, but her sense of taste hasn't returned (11 months now). A couple I know got it, the wife was very ill for 2 weeks, and recovered. Her husband tested positive, but was asymptomatic.

 

[gonzaga]

Just lost a friend to Covid.
2 weeks ago I was delivering to hear and noticed that she sounded like she had allergies, this continued for the rest of the week. When I'd seen her on Thursday I told her you need to go to the Dr, those "allergies" are kicking your ass. By the next day she was struggling to breath. 1 week and 1 day later she passed away at the age of 50. Her O2 level was below 65.
I do not know of any underlying health conditions....

 

[GetReal]

Do you know what you call a empty ICU or hospital? You do know they are also a business, a ton of empty beds is called a hospital for not too long.

I know one one hospital in Anderson SC thta was running at 95% of capacity....bcuz they closed 75% of their 200 bed facility due to inbility to staff it.

And less than 10% of their admitted patients were COVID related.

NOTHING lies like numbers.

 

[TurboTrout]

It’s also interesting to see all the fat people wearing masks, like when did you start giving a shit about your health?

 

[BoilerUP]

My local hospital’s ICU is 100% full…75% are COVID patients. Average age in the ICU is less than 55.

They lost a 34 year old earlier this week, with no significant/common comorbidities, who was given ivermectin at family request.

 

[Schw15]

I was at Colorado memorial north and they are jammed packed covid 19. No room from what they told me.
I do believe this was a man made and got released. But who really knows its here. As far as Government's and science ect. Hasn't the Government's controlled every aspect of everything since the beginning and unfortunately it will always be political. It's sad for the people but it is what it is. They also only release what they want people to know on either side.

 

[BufordTJustice]

Serious question...why is a reluctance to take a vaccine yet unproven, skeptical of a media/gov. proven to lie and manipulate the truth to serve an agenda, or generally wish to be left alone to make decisions that best suits a person's beliefs, vilified and accused of being anti-vac, selfish, or deny the severity of Covid? Sorry if/when answers derail this thread...I know 0 Covid deaths, I feel at this point we have all probably been exposed to the virus? Again...my apologies to the OP

 

[TurboTrout]

Serious question...why is a reluctance to take a vaccine yet unproven, skeptical of a media/gov. proven to lie and manipulate the truth to serve an agenda, or generally wish to be left alone to make decisions that best suits a person's beliefs, vilified and accused of being anti-vac, selfish, or deny the severity of Covid?

Same reason those who question a religion are treated the way they are.

Big gov (and it’s media, educational, Corp branches) is a religion to many

 

[BillOH]

I had 2 friends from shooting matches that died from Covid. Both 60+ with a health issue that would not have killed them for years. I had 2 friends from shooting that had a close relative die from Covid. One was in a nursing home and the other had lung issues previously that would not have caused his death for years.

I know several people who have had Covid. Some it kicked their butt but they survived and others with few problems.

 

[HogsLife]

Alot of corrupt bull shit going on but accusing our front line workers (nurses) of not lying a s purposely not helping / caring for their patients is a bit much. Like blaming Pvt. Jones for pulling out of Afghanistan.

My local hospital’s ICU is 100% full…75% are COVID patients. Average age in the ICU is less than 55.

They lost a 34 year old earlier this week, with no significant/common comorbidities, who was given ivermectin at family request.

everythinng I’ve heard anout it this recent rise is there seems to be a lot more younger folks getting it that are in otherwise pretty Good health. Some vaccinated some not. Before it was a lot of elderly, over weight, or had other underlying issues.

I don’t know about that vaccine. I can see some people making the choice to go get it if they’ve never had it. Or they have health issues. Like what do
they have to lose? You don’t know how it’s gonna affect you until you get it As far as people who’ve already had Covid and it was fairly mild, and then chose to go out and get the vaccine? Eehhhh Doesn’t seem to be turning o out well for them at all. And that where me and the wife are at. Both had it close to a year ago. It was mild, no breathing issues and we haven’t had it again, and she’s worked COVID 3-5x a week since.

I ain’t about kicking my proven natural immune system out of the picture for some vaccine that isn’t even workin. Fuck that noise

 

[theLBC]

I know ALOT of ppl who got COVID and recovered.

Can't say I know of ANYONE, personally, dying from just COVID. Mostly just anecdotes of ppl who died WITH Covid.... but with accompanying co-morbidities.

That reality makes the death stats truly hard to rely on. I saved a story of a fellow who died in a motorcycle crash but WITH COVID being listed as a COVID death.

I think if we didn;t have internet, cable TV news and instant worldwide information about eveything, this pandemic would be much less "deadly."

i wish, but it doesn't really matter that we see the propaganda, because the hospitals were being paid huge bonuses for every positive case, and they got paid even more if the victim was put on a vent, and the top cash prize if they were able to kill the patient.

they are getting big bucks from our taxes to extend and exaggerate the whole thing, same as pharma, which means the cdc and fda gets more kickbacks via the foundations.

 

[greentick]

ivermectin horse dewormer. I know people who tried that said it almost killed them over the covid. Not smart to use in my mind it is horse dewarmer how do you know dose? Just my thought have horses and animals no city slicker but not worth animal meds to me

Ivermectin has a wide safety margin in dosing.

Using 1.87% horse quality is 1g per 200lbs, break out your digital reloading scale. Not giving advice. If someone wants to take veternary meds it's their decision but it's not rocket-science to cypher out the dose.

I prescribe it all the time for scabies in the ER, have for years prior to COVID even being a thing.

It is very safe and actually won a Nobel prize in 2015

 

[Holliday]

• My daughter’s family in Maine all had Covid- No hospitals
• My brother and his wife here in Wyoming both had covid- No Hospitals
• Owner at one of major suppliers contracted covid, nearly died, lengthy hospitalization and rehab. Had to learn to talk and swallow again.
• Lady I deal with in front office of same supplier lost her father and sister to Covid. Really sad. Sweet lady. She took a leave of absence and just returned.

 

[HogsLife]

i wish, but it doesn't really matter that we see the propaganda, because the hospitals were being paid huge bonuses for every positive case, and they got paid even more if the victim was put on a vent, and the top cash prize if they were able to kill the patient.

they are getting big bucks from our taxes to extend and exaggerate the whole thing, same as pharma, which means the cdc and fda gets more kickbacks via the foundations.

So our doctors and nurses are killing people on purpose for money?

Well that’s pretty sweet. Been married to a killer for hire for 15 years and didnt even know it.

Awesome.. lol

 

[Holliday]

Just had the covid 19 with pneumonia. I also have asthma. It was honestly the worse thing I've ever been threw. 103 plus fevers 2 or 3 times a day body aches out of this world couldn't taste or smell. I ended up dropping oxygen so low ended up in hospital and was on oxygen full time. I just got off of oxygen yesterday. Lost 30 pounds and still can't really do anything very weak and lungs still recovering. My mom is in hospital now something but got a blood clot and been on 13 liters of oxygen to maintain at 90 o2. I didn't believe covid til now and made me a believer in it. Oh I'm 33 pretty healthy live in Colorado and work in mountains running up hills all day. Haven't worked for over 1 month and prolly going to be another month to get back to try and work

Prayers for you and your Mom.......

 

[Schw15]

Ivermectin has a wide safety margin in dosing.

Using 1.87% horse quality is 1g per 200lbs, break out your digital reloading scale. Not giving advice. If someone wants to take veternary meds it's their decision but it's not rocket-science to cypher out the dose.

I prescribe it all the time for scabies in the ER, have for years prior to COVID even being a thing.

It is very safe and actually won a Nobel prize in 2015

Didn't know all that but I'm not a doctor or anything just was saying what I seen. By any means am I saying I know but you are a Doctor so I will look into it

 

[Schw15]

Prayers for you and your Mom.......

Thank you

 

[theLBC]

So our doctors and nurses are killing people on purpose for money?

Well that’s pretty sweet. Been married to a killer for hire for 15 years and didnt even know it.

Awesome.. lol

of course not all of them. or even most of them, and not every hospital.
remember, i do legal discovery for a healthcare company that provides a relevant service to hospitals and clinics across the country.

if the policy of that hospital is not to treat the patients with any kind of therapeutic, even before they are sick enough to be admitted, this becomes the beginning of their gravy train. the physicians and nurses often have no ability to override these policies, like when the .gov restricted the use of hcq, or when state health boards made it illegal to prescribe them.

for legal reasons i cannot offer details, but i know of wide extremes in how patients are treated from one modality in florida (for example), to another in new jersey or new york, where the difference in the % of deaths is shocking (to me anyway). and that isn't to say every modality in every state is good or bad. it often seems that it can be up to that hospital's administration entirely.

dude, i am not insulting your wife or her profession.
to me that is you trying to make it personal instead of considering what i posted with an honest and open mind.
it isn't about being right, it is about getting it right.

 

[HogsLife]

of course not all of them. or even most of them, and not every hospital.
remember, i do legal discovery for a healthcare company that provides a relevant service to hospitals and clinics across the country.

if the policy of that hospital is not to treat the patients with any kind of therapeutic, even before they are sick enough to be admitted, this becomes the beginning of their gravy train. the physicians and nurses often have no ability to override these policies, like when the .gov restricted the use of hcq, or when state health boards made it illegal to prescribe them.

for legal reasons i cannot offer details, but i know of wide extremes in how patients are treated from one modality in florida (for example), to another in new jersey or new york, where the difference in the % of deaths is shocking (to me anyway). and that isn't to say every modality in every state is good or bad. it often seems that it can be up to that hospital's administration entirely.

dude, i am not insulting your wife or her profession.
to me that is you trying to make it personal instead of considering what i posted with an honest and open mind.
it isn't about being right, it is about getting it right.

Oh I know youre not dude

Im not denying that it’s happened or may even still be happening in some medical facilities. Obviously you’re seeing it first hand. There’s been a lot of shady shit going on for the past few years and I know personally I have a really hard time not lumping everyone in the same fuck off basket together. Lotta nurses / frontline workers out there working their asses off, doing the best they can for the right reasons, but like you said , their hands are tied.

 

[TurboTrout]

So our doctors and nurses are killing people on purpose for money?

Well that’s pretty sweet. Been married to a killer for hire for 15 years and didnt even know it.

Awesome.. lol

Are you suffering from hysteria?
No one said that, you know no one said that.

Also medical fuck ups are like the 3rd leading cause of death. Folks who think docs are anything more than skilled labor are funny

Newsroom

Follow the Johns Hopkins Medicine newsroom for the latest updates in medicine, scientific discovery, and next generation medical education, expert sources, and media contact information.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

 

[HogsLife]

Are you suffering from hysteria?
No one said that, you know no one said that.

Also medical fuck ups are like the 3rd leading cause of death. Folks who think docs are anything more than skilled labor are funny

Newsroom

Follow the Johns Hopkins Medicine newsroom for the latest updates in medicine, scientific discovery, and next generation medical education, expert sources, and media contact information.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Haha I might very well be. Probably need to stop internetting for the day..

I'm aware how brain dead some of these Drs are. Some of the shit I hear is mind boggling. Im Convinced if it wasn’t for most these nurses, the Drs wouldn’t be able to tie their own shoes properly. Much less take care of a patient.

 

[theLBC]

Oh I know youre not dude

Im not denying that it’s happened or may even still be happening in some medical facilities. Obviously you’re seeing it first hand. There’s been a lot of shady shit going on for the past few years and I know personally I have a really hard time not lumping everyone in the same fuck off basket together. Lotta nurses / frontline workers out there working their asses off, doing the best they can for the right reasons, but like you said , their hands are tied.

hospitals are businesses with overhead and operational costs (and inflated salaries for admin, imho) just like other brick and mortar businesses.
when .gov tells hospitals that elective surgeries and procedures are verboten "for our safety", they immediately lose 30% of their income.
obviously i am rounding that off and there are some that do more outpatient surgeries and some do less.
how do you think they make that up so they can stay alive? we furloughed over 2000, and we are not a hospital but provide services to them.
do you think some hospitals might have over-reported covid cases to stay alive? lol.
unfortunately, in some cases it seems it is worse than over-reporting, it ends up looking outright evil imho, just like killing hundreds of thousands of americans and making billions of dollars by convincing doctors that oxycontin was not addictive.

 

[HogsLife]

hospitals are businesses with overhead and operational costs (and inflated salaries for admin, imho) just like other brick and mortar businesses.
when .gov tells hospitals that elective surgeries and procedures are verboten "for our safety", they immediately lose 30% of their income.
obviously i am rounding that off and there are some that do more outpatient surgeries and some do less.
how do you think they make that up so they can stay alive? we furloughed over 2000, and we are not a hospital but provide services to them.
do you think some hospitals might have over-reported covid cases to stay alive? lol.
unfortunately, i some cases it seems it is worse than over-reporting, it ends up evil imho, just like killing hundreds of thousands of americans and making billions of dollars by convincing doctors that oxycontin was not addictive.

We’re in a pretty bad place for sure…

 

[rtB]

I'm in Phoenix, AZ. They reported on the radio on Friday that the ICUs in the area are almost full.

Then they added that 28% of those were Covid. So not even close to "full from Covid".

Then the add came on for a health care provider with 1000 job openings for nurses and 300 other. Really hard to tell if full means full or full means we laid a bunch of people off and we can't hire them back full.

 

[theLBC]

We’re in a pretty bad place for sure…

for sure.
if you have seen my ramblings, you might have seen me pissed off about .gov telling people not to take hcq as part of a therapeutic package (with zinc and zpak or other broad-spectrum antibiotic). many others can vouch for being given it if deployed in places like africa where it is common. i don't recall and .mil deaths from taking hcq.
the fact that they ran bullshit "trials" on patients that were already critically ill, sometimes already on vents, and not giving then zinc and antibiotics?
i was enraged. that is absolutely evil.
the straw that breaks the camel's back is .fda.gov (on twitter where i am banned) making fun if ivermectin as though it is used exclusively on farm animals. it is on the WHO list of critical medicines. they won a nobel price for this in 2015.
it is for horses?
how the fuck can this be tolerated? these clowns should be arrested.

 

[theLBC]

since this is an anecdotal survey, and many were able to share firsthand personal knowledge of somebody that died from covid (not with)...

will you all tell us if you know if your loved ones or friends were treated with HCQ+Zinc+Z-pak, or Ivermectin+Zinc+broad-spectrum antibiotic, when they first had symptoms or tested positive?

 

[greentick]

... but you are a Doctor ...

Just a simple ER PA... putting the Ass in Physician Assistant. Always a good idea to do your own research, medicine or whatever endeavor.

"Corporate medicine" is AFU. I have plenty of ideas on fixing the mess but see the above statement.

 

[HogsLife]

for sure.
if you have seen my ramblings, you might have seen me pissed off about .gov telling people not to take hcq as part of a therapeutic package (with zinc and zpak or other broad-spectrum antibiotic). many others can vouch for being give it if deployed in places like africa where it is common.
the fact that they ran bullshit "trials" on patients that were already critically ill, sometimes already on vents, and not giving then zinc and antibiotics, i was enraged. that is absolutely evil.
the straw that breaks the camel's back is .gov (on twitter where i am banned) making fun if ivermectin as though it is used exclusively on farm animals. it is on the WHO list of critical medicines. they won a nobel price for this in 2015.
it is for horses?
how the fuck can this be tolerated? these clowns should be arrested.

i feel you there man. It’s a disgrace. The healthcare system has been corrupted with political agendas and greed. A healthy immune system is “myth” and irrelevant now. Why? CUz you there’s no money to be made from it and anyone that disagrees is a conspiracy theorist.
Can’t trust anything you hear or read. I literally had to take a bury my head in the sand approach to this after this Afghan thing blew up just to keep My sanity. No News. Social Media, Bear Pit etc. it’s too much bro. There was a lot of good folks that helped us out over there and we just hung them out to dry and armed their enemies. Pushed away 20 years of work and sacrifice… its fucking sad and embarrassing


this country is not gonna last and it’s for the same reasona democracies / republics never have. Politicians are greedy Mfers who do nothing but power grab , and create division amoung the people, and the citizens are selfish mfers who put their own needs and desires above what’s best for the country .

China is the world power and will stay that way long after this country is gone cuz nobodies pulling their strings. They’re running their shit and our country’s “leaders” are bought and fucking paid for.

 

[Holliday]

Just received a text that a former schoolmate in Maine just lost his son to covid. No word on comorbidity, if any.