I do not reload but I am plan to learn in the near future. I dont know if this is possible with my limited knowlage, but can one load a .416 Barrett projectile into a .416 Rigby case and fire the round SAFELY out of a .416 Rigby rifle? Just a thought.
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Crazy .416 Rigby Question
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Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do not reload but I am plan to learn in the near future. I dont know if this is possible with my limited knowlage, but can one load a .416 Barrett projectile into a .416 Rigby case and fire the round SAFELY out of a .416 Rigby rifle? Just a thought. </div></div>
I'm just going to toss out a big NO, as I think the .416 Barrett is based off a chopped 50 BMG.
You'd probably have better luck trying to shoot a 338LM out of a 416 Rigby, LOL, although that ain't going to work either.
Chris
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do not reload but I am plan to learn in the near future. I dont know if this is possible with my limited knowlage, but can one load a .416 Barrett projectile into a .416 Rigby case and fire the round SAFELY out of a .416 Rigby rifle? Just a thought. </div></div>
I'm just going to toss out a big NO, as I think the .416 Barrett is based off a chopped 50 BMG.
You'd probably have better luck trying to shoot a 338LM out of a 416 Rigby, LOL, although that ain't going to work either.
Chris
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
.416 dia is .416 dia, so it should work. And much better Bc for the newer, long rand bullets.
But mag length or seating depth on the longer, more streamlined Barret type bullet may be an issue.
.416 dia is .416 dia, so it should work. And much better Bc for the newer, long rand bullets.
But mag length or seating depth on the longer, more streamlined Barret type bullet may be an issue.
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
Oh it would be so nice wouldn't it. But the barret bullets are long for caliber and probably wouldn't stabalize with most factory rigby twists. Other than that it might work. Where are you seeing just the bullets as a component for sale? If I could get 3 or 4 I could try it in my factory CZ. Having a fast twist rigby would be a killer set up for ultra long range if you could get some low drag bullets at a good price.
Oh it would be so nice wouldn't it. But the barret bullets are long for caliber and probably wouldn't stabalize with most factory rigby twists. Other than that it might work. Where are you seeing just the bullets as a component for sale? If I could get 3 or 4 I could try it in my factory CZ. Having a fast twist rigby would be a killer set up for ultra long range if you could get some low drag bullets at a good price.
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisGarrett</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do not reload but I am plan to learn in the near future. I dont know if this is possible with my limited knowlage, but can one load a .416 Barrett projectile into a .416 Rigby case and fire the round SAFELY out of a .416 Rigby rifle? Just a thought. </div></div>
I'm just going to toss out a big NO, as I think the .416 Barrett is based off a chopped 50 BMG.
You'd probably have better luck trying to shoot a 338LM out of a 416 Rigby, LOL, although that ain't going to work either.
Chris </div></div>
Obviously the brass of a Barrett .416 or .338 Lapua Mag will not fit a .416 Rigby too well. I am talking about the bullets (projectiles) not cartridges.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jet_lagged</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.416 dia is .416 dia, so it should work. And much better Bc for the newer, long rand bullets.
But mag length or seating depth on the longer, more streamlined Barret type bullet may be an issue. </div></div>
Good point. What about just shooting single shot? I wonder what the seating depth is on a .416 Rigby vs a .416 Barrett?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ptaylor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh it would be so nice wouldn't it. But the barret bullets are long for caliber and probably wouldn't stabalize with most factory rigby twists. Other than that it might work. Where are you seeing just the bullets as a component for sale? If I could get 3 or 4 I could try it in my factory CZ. Having a fast twist rigby would be a killer set up for ultra long range if you could get some low drag bullets at a good price. </div></div>
What twist rate would one need to stabilize a .416 Barrett Projectile? 1/12 Twist? Also here are some .416 Barrett Projectiles for sale at a reasonable price. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=177767328
Check it out to see if they work or not. The seller of this auction will sell the rounds individually if you want to test a few rounds out.
I am in the middle of a .416 Rigby build, but I always thought it would be cool to be able to use the rifle to take long shots on game as well. I know that a standard .416 Rigby projectile is capable of longer shots but not the same way a .416 Barrett is. So far it seems that all that is needed is a faster twist barrel? All I have to say is BAD ASS!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisGarrett</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: superwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do not reload but I am plan to learn in the near future. I dont know if this is possible with my limited knowlage, but can one load a .416 Barrett projectile into a .416 Rigby case and fire the round SAFELY out of a .416 Rigby rifle? Just a thought. </div></div>
I'm just going to toss out a big NO, as I think the .416 Barrett is based off a chopped 50 BMG.
You'd probably have better luck trying to shoot a 338LM out of a 416 Rigby, LOL, although that ain't going to work either.
Chris </div></div>
Obviously the brass of a Barrett .416 or .338 Lapua Mag will not fit a .416 Rigby too well. I am talking about the bullets (projectiles) not cartridges.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jet_lagged</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.416 dia is .416 dia, so it should work. And much better Bc for the newer, long rand bullets.
But mag length or seating depth on the longer, more streamlined Barret type bullet may be an issue. </div></div>
Good point. What about just shooting single shot? I wonder what the seating depth is on a .416 Rigby vs a .416 Barrett?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ptaylor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh it would be so nice wouldn't it. But the barret bullets are long for caliber and probably wouldn't stabalize with most factory rigby twists. Other than that it might work. Where are you seeing just the bullets as a component for sale? If I could get 3 or 4 I could try it in my factory CZ. Having a fast twist rigby would be a killer set up for ultra long range if you could get some low drag bullets at a good price. </div></div>
What twist rate would one need to stabilize a .416 Barrett Projectile? 1/12 Twist? Also here are some .416 Barrett Projectiles for sale at a reasonable price. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=177767328
Check it out to see if they work or not. The seller of this auction will sell the rounds individually if you want to test a few rounds out.
I am in the middle of a .416 Rigby build, but I always thought it would be cool to be able to use the rifle to take long shots on game as well. I know that a standard .416 Rigby projectile is capable of longer shots but not the same way a .416 Barrett is. So far it seems that all that is needed is a faster twist barrel? All I have to say is BAD ASS!!!!
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
Is there really a big difference in the .416 Barrett ballistics if one were to use a 1/14 twist rather than a 1/12 twist. It seems that most barrel makers cut 1/14 as a standard.
Also what problems could come from the longer bullet lengths?
Maybe it is just me, but this seems like such a bad ass project!!!
Is there really a big difference in the .416 Barrett ballistics if one were to use a 1/14 twist rather than a 1/12 twist. It seems that most barrel makers cut 1/14 as a standard.
Also what problems could come from the longer bullet lengths?
Maybe it is just me, but this seems like such a bad ass project!!!
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
with the 416 Rigby you can load and fire the projectiles first off it is like firing a 90gr match bullet in a 12 twist 223 safe but the twist is not sufficient. If you are looking at loading the Rigby single shot with them get a 10 twist and chamber it in 416 Rigby it will allow you to fire any 416 projectile made. If you just go to the 12 twist the 416 Barrett needs it may not stabalise the longer projectiles at the slower velocity so just get a 10 twist it will work perfectly with the round nose 416 hunting projectiles and you can custom load for the longer Barrett projectiles.
Go for it as you will have a nice fun gun.
with the 416 Rigby you can load and fire the projectiles first off it is like firing a 90gr match bullet in a 12 twist 223 safe but the twist is not sufficient. If you are looking at loading the Rigby single shot with them get a 10 twist and chamber it in 416 Rigby it will allow you to fire any 416 projectile made. If you just go to the 12 twist the 416 Barrett needs it may not stabalise the longer projectiles at the slower velocity so just get a 10 twist it will work perfectly with the round nose 416 hunting projectiles and you can custom load for the longer Barrett projectiles.
Go for it as you will have a nice fun gun.
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">with the 416 Rigby you can load and fire the projectiles first off it is like firing a 90gr match bullet in a 12 twist 223 safe but the twist is not sufficient. If you are looking at loading the Rigby single shot with them get a 10 twist and chamber it in 416 Rigby it will allow you to fire any 416 projectile made. If you just go to the 12 twist the 416 Barrett needs it may not stabalise the longer projectiles at the slower velocity so just get a 10 twist it will work perfectly with the round nose 416 hunting projectiles and you can custom load for the longer Barrett projectiles.
Go for it as you will have a nice fun gun.
</div></div>
Cool! I noticed that the factory .416 Barretts use a 1/12 twist barrels. The bullets seem to be heavier with the Rigby (400GR-450Gr) rather than with the Barrett (395GR-416GR). I have talked to a couple of barrel makers and they said that 1/14 twist is pretty standard for the Rigby. The differences in the projectiles seem to be the length and velocity.
Weird how the heavier bullets use a slower twist, rather than the heavier bullets using a faster twist to stabilize. Seems like the exact opposite of conventional thinking?
Will the longer .416 Barrett bullets have a problem seating in the .416 Rigby Chamber?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Bill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">with the 416 Rigby you can load and fire the projectiles first off it is like firing a 90gr match bullet in a 12 twist 223 safe but the twist is not sufficient. If you are looking at loading the Rigby single shot with them get a 10 twist and chamber it in 416 Rigby it will allow you to fire any 416 projectile made. If you just go to the 12 twist the 416 Barrett needs it may not stabalise the longer projectiles at the slower velocity so just get a 10 twist it will work perfectly with the round nose 416 hunting projectiles and you can custom load for the longer Barrett projectiles.
Go for it as you will have a nice fun gun.
</div></div>
Cool! I noticed that the factory .416 Barretts use a 1/12 twist barrels. The bullets seem to be heavier with the Rigby (400GR-450Gr) rather than with the Barrett (395GR-416GR). I have talked to a couple of barrel makers and they said that 1/14 twist is pretty standard for the Rigby. The differences in the projectiles seem to be the length and velocity.
Weird how the heavier bullets use a slower twist, rather than the heavier bullets using a faster twist to stabilize. Seems like the exact opposite of conventional thinking?
Will the longer .416 Barrett bullets have a problem seating in the .416 Rigby Chamber?
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
Ok the weight of a projectile is not the issue it is the length and velocity. the 416 Barrel are mostly copper alloy and VLD but the Rigby uses blunt round nose lead cored projectiles so they stabalise at lower velocity and less twist.
The Barrel projectiles should work through the factory throat as they are designed around long paralell round nose projectiles so they require a reasonably long throat so you will just have to load them to length you will be OK.
so get a barrel maker to cut you a 10 twist barrel and go for it.
Ok the weight of a projectile is not the issue it is the length and velocity. the 416 Barrel are mostly copper alloy and VLD but the Rigby uses blunt round nose lead cored projectiles so they stabalise at lower velocity and less twist.
The Barrel projectiles should work through the factory throat as they are designed around long paralell round nose projectiles so they require a reasonably long throat so you will just have to load them to length you will be OK.
so get a barrel maker to cut you a 10 twist barrel and go for it.
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
Great forum, 1st time poster. Like the info on the 416 rigby. round to a barrett round. I have a t/c break action single shot 28" barrel 1/10 twist. sounds like this would work out great. Any thoughts using this barrel / setup. Thanks Russ
Great forum, 1st time poster. Like the info on the 416 rigby. round to a barrett round. I have a t/c break action single shot 28" barrel 1/10 twist. sounds like this would work out great. Any thoughts using this barrel / setup. Thanks Russ
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teufelhunden1076</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great forum, 1st time poster. Like the info on the 416 rigby. round to a barrett round. I have a t/c break action single shot 28" barrel 1/10 twist. sounds like this would work out great. Any thoughts using this barrel / setup. Thanks Russ </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Teufelhunden1076</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great forum, 1st time poster. Like the info on the 416 rigby. round to a barrett round. I have a t/c break action single shot 28" barrel 1/10 twist. sounds like this would work out great. Any thoughts using this barrel / setup. Thanks Russ </div></div>
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
Open up the lead and single feed it.
Expect 2700+FPS with the 400 grain bullet..Consider it a giant 30-06.
I think the 408CT case would be a better selection. Since you can buy the CZ in 505 gibbs it can be made to feed the bigger CT case.
Peace
Open up the lead and single feed it.
Expect 2700+FPS with the 400 grain bullet..Consider it a giant 30-06.
I think the 408CT case would be a better selection. Since you can buy the CZ in 505 gibbs it can be made to feed the bigger CT case.
Peace
Re: Crazy .416 Rigby Question
338 lapua will chamber in the rigby as the 416 was the parent case for the lapua
338 lapua will chamber in the rigby as the 416 was the parent case for the lapua
