Looking at the specs on CZ’s website at the different 457 models, some say adjustable trigger and some say fully adjustable. I contacted CZ about it and they told me they are all the same. I just bought a scout and the trigger on it outta the box fells better than my MTR did out of the box
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Looking at the specs on CZ’s website at the different 457 models, some say adjustable trigger and some say fully adjustable. I contacted CZ about it and they told me they are all the same. I just bought a scout and the trigger on it outta the box fells better than my MTR did out of the box
looks like you are on the right track with that ammo for your goals. have fun
MDrimfirerookie is absolutely right. Myself and two friends have CZ457’s. We have 2 pro varmints and 1 precision trainer. We all started out with Eley ammo hoping it would shoot but it turned out SK is what they all liked. Mine seems to shoot any SK ammo well but I have been using Standard Plus. The more expensive SK ammo and Lapua Center X may shoot a tiny bit better but it isn’t proportional to the price difference. For the money the SK Standard Plus is hard to beat. On a calm day I probably average a little over .75 moa at 100 yards with it. I just hate the wax SK and Lapua use but I guess I will just have to deal with it.
Has anyone “accurized” their Boyd’s Pro Varmint Barrel by opening it up the barrel channel a bit I can begin to slide a dollar under mine. It is pretty tight and touching the barrel.
My PV had a couple of spots where the barrel channel was a little tight, and it wouldn't pass the dollar bill test.. I took a 7/8" dowel rod and wrapped some 60 grit sandpaper around it and opened up the channel until the bill slide without any resistance.. I smoothed it out with some 220 grit, and spayed painted it with some black paint and all is good.. looks factory..
I was planning to but honestly it shot so well as is I didn’t bother. It was accurate enough with the SK ammo that I really couldn’t imaging beading and opening up the barrel channel would have made much difference. At least it wouldn’t with me shooting. I’m horriable at setting and shooting groups. I just don’t have the patience for it and always rush through.
Good luck, my factory barrel was very inconsistent. Maybe you hit the barrel lottery.
I'm probably going to buy a bartlein from area 419 if I'm not happy with the results. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but it's not the end of the world.
Lots of upgrades today on the 457. Area 419 bolt knob, arca rail, and 30 MOA scope base. Camo paint job and Athlon Midas Tac. I need to install a cheek riser tomorrow and get some rounds down range for the first time. The 419 rail is really tall. Low rings and it’s still high. I also opened up the barrel channel.
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Got the MPA chassis Friday.. just need a bipod... I probably will just shoot off the bags sometime soon..getting anxious here..lol
ok..can't wait..using the spigot mount and the Magpul bipod
ok..can't wait..using the spigot mount and the Magpul bipod
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Thanks !! It's the 16.5".. I'm thinking of getting a 20" Bartlein barrel though..
Not sure exactly.. I just got it together yesterday.. I would say around 8 lbs maybe..
That is the 16.5" barrel with a muzzle brake on the end.. it measures about 18"
Just went and shot my MTR after picking it up from Area419. Bolt close is a bit harder that I would like, but it engraves really well with my Aguila Super Extra Std Vel and some CCI Std Vel. Both shot about .5" at 50yrds. I think this rifle is gonna treat me well. Gonna put a trigger spring from @AirGunShawn and polish up the trigger surfaces to get it down in pull to get closer to my centerfires, but I think this is gonna make positional practice at my 200 and in home range much more worthwhile.
did you use a normal drill or do you own a drill press? I want to do this to mine but if I have Manners do it its a 2 months wait but if I do it my self I scared I'll mess up.
I have a drill press, but I just used a DeWalt hand drill to do this, mainly out of laziness. Marked the bit with tape for depth and let her rip. You'll want a higher drill speed to cut the CF shell, but beware, it drills like styrofoam after you break through. The good thing is, if you drill too deep you can fill the hole to the right depth with Marine-Tex.
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Cz is apparently releasing a chassis version of the 457.
Thanks for the vid. That chassis version looks interesting. Impact has it available for preorder for $986, so it looks like it's going to be about the same price as the new Bergara B-14R.
www.impactguns.com
CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis 22 LR, 16.5" Threaded 1/2x28 Barrel, Black, Adj Stock, 5rd mag
CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis 22 LR, 16.5" Threaded 1/2x28 Barrel, Black, Adj Stock, 5rd mag. CZ-USA 02360. Precision rimfire rifle competitions have been gaining steam in the last few years and CZ rifles have been go-to equipment for the sport. Expanding on our premium offerings, the Varmint ...
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Very nice. Looks almost MDT LSS ish.... I really am digging the longer handguard. Solid performer for sure. Hope they offer the chassis by itself . I think they should have at least offered it to come with a tactical knob, picatinny rail, and a extended mag release.
Should be a solid performer. I like the MBA-3 stock.
Should be a solid performer. I like the MBA-3 stock.
Thanks for the vid. That chassis version looks interesting. Impact has it available for preorder for $986, so it looks like it's going to be about the same price as the new Bergara B-14R.
CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis 22 LR, 16.5" Threaded 1/2x28 Barrel, Black, Adj Stock, 5rd mag
CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis 22 LR, 16.5" Threaded 1/2x28 Barrel, Black, Adj Stock, 5rd mag. CZ-USA 02360. Precision rimfire rifle competitions have been gaining steam in the last few years and CZ rifles have been go-to equipment for the sport. Expanding on our premium offerings, the Varmint ...
I just looked at the MDT site and they have a LSS or ACC chassis for the CZ 457. It is like 980.00 complete.
As much as I would like one, I will be leaving my MTR as is. I just cant spend that kind of money on mine because she shoots so well as she is. Besides, I just upgraded the scope on my MTR to a Trijicon 5-50x56 like my V22
As much as I would like one, I will be leaving my MTR as is. I just cant spend that kind of money on mine because she shoots so well as she is. Besides, I just upgraded the scope on my MTR to a Trijicon 5-50x56 like my V22
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I have been reading about the ignition on the 455's being improved with a new spring, anyone know if the spring is the same from the 455 to the 457? I'm mainly just playing around to see what I can get out of the little gun so I figured a cheap spring would be worth trying.
I was looking at the CZ web site and they have lots of small parts cheap. Little stuff like pins and springs for around 2.00 bucks. They probably just changed something simple like the wire diameter to change the spring rate to increase the firing pin impact force. Also McMaster Carr and Lee springs would be a good place to get springs. Avoid stainless steel as they actually have a spring rate of approximately 85% of the music wire type. Meaning they are weaker given the same size. I just looked at taking my 457 bolt apart.... what a PITA!
Just got my stock and barreled action back from being bedded and having a rail put on it. My smith even made a custom fitted lug for it. Now just need some decent weather. Keith at Phoenix Custom Rifles does awesome work .
Actually it’s quite simple to tear down the bolt on a 457 and should take you less than a minute to do it.
CZ 457 is an awesome and accurate rifle, have both 455 in a dedicated .17hmr as well as 457, both in Manners. Enjoy!
Can you tell me what I missed? I had trouble with the cross pin and stopped there. I did think that if I took the extractor and front clip off, the firing pin may just tilt up and allow for removal of the pin. I just have not done it yet as mine was not need of any service.
Hi Guy's..... I need a semi auto for next year and wanted something different. Has anybody heard anything about the Kriss Defiance DMK22C .22LR? I could get a Ruger or even a Bergara but I really dislike the box magazine they use. It appers to be totally customizable just like any AR and is made in the USA and constructed of aluminum.
You can also swap out any type of Ruger bbl. into it if you like. I would love to hear from anyone who has one.
You can also swap out any type of Ruger bbl. into it if you like. I would love to hear from anyone who has one.
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After removing the bolt put the bolt in the closed position and stand the bolt on end and from the the rear of the bolt compress it down . The cross pin will push out then.
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AirGunShawn - I bought a CLE (Compass Lake Engineering) 22RF dedicated AR SR upper back in the late '90 to use for practicing offhand & slow prone shooting while I was in the hunt for leg points. It was very accurate, at times out-shooting my Anschutz 1611, and definitely helped me leg-out & earn my Distinguished Rifleman Badge. After I legged-out, I sold that upper to a good friend who was also working on his Badge. Eventually, I missed it to the point that I bought another modified conversion unit & Douglas SS match bbl from CLE, and put together another dedicated 22RF upper. It shoots at least as good as that first one did, and actually out-shot my Stiller 2500XR/Krieger & 40X/Benchmark 22RF repeaters at 200yds with a select lot of SK Std+. My only regret is that I had Frank do the bbl on this one in a heavy SR contour & 20" length, so the resulting rifle is just as heavy as a match grade 223 upper. If I had it to do over again, I'd have had him turn it to a lighter contour, and probably finish at 18" instead of 20", so I wouldn't have to lug around so much weight.
I've never shot anything but match grade std vel ammo through either of those uppers, and at times - especially in cold weather - it'll fail to fully cycle for the first few rounds. I don't know if running hi vel ammo through it would damage anything, but have been shooting it with Lapua Polar Biathlon, which typically chronographs at very nearly 1100fps. That gives better reliability, something that was never a concern when shooting the original upper only in offhand & slow prone. I bought three Black Dog 10rd magazines for it, as I find them easier to load than the little 10rd insert mags that come with the M261 conversion unit. Just wish Black Dog would see fit to reduce the length of these mags to the same as a 20rd GI mag, as they're the same length as a 30rd GI mag, which makes it impossible to shoot off a bench. For bench ammo accuracy testing, I just revert back to the little insert mags. I put a Geissele B-G2S-E trigger in the lower of this rifle, replacing the RRA 2-stage NM trigger I'd set the lower up with, because the RRA trigger gives all sorts of cycling issues due to too much spring tension. The Geissele is a sweet trigger, and improved cycling a bunch.
I've never shot anything but match grade std vel ammo through either of those uppers, and at times - especially in cold weather - it'll fail to fully cycle for the first few rounds. I don't know if running hi vel ammo through it would damage anything, but have been shooting it with Lapua Polar Biathlon, which typically chronographs at very nearly 1100fps. That gives better reliability, something that was never a concern when shooting the original upper only in offhand & slow prone. I bought three Black Dog 10rd magazines for it, as I find them easier to load than the little 10rd insert mags that come with the M261 conversion unit. Just wish Black Dog would see fit to reduce the length of these mags to the same as a 20rd GI mag, as they're the same length as a 30rd GI mag, which makes it impossible to shoot off a bench. For bench ammo accuracy testing, I just revert back to the little insert mags. I put a Geissele B-G2S-E trigger in the lower of this rifle, replacing the RRA 2-stage NM trigger I'd set the lower up with, because the RRA trigger gives all sorts of cycling issues due to too much spring tension. The Geissele is a sweet trigger, and improved cycling a bunch.
Hello Dennis
Thanks so much
Shawn Carroll
Hello Dennis, I have a lower with a Geissele SSP trigger that I can use. I would prefer to have a higher quality upper from CLE than a mediocre .22 rifle. Could you post a photo of your upper please? If you don't mind me asking.... how much was your upper? As I recall, my SSP is about 3.25 lbs. but it doesn't feel like it at all. Your right.... they are very sweet
Thanks so much
Shawn Carroll
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After looking at the exploded parts diagram, I could see that the firing pin has a slot with a hole at one end. That would mean that the firing pin would need to be in the fired or relaxed position. The bolt closed position. And since I did not want to fight with the spring, I put the bolt in a wooden clamp. My pin was a pain to remove. I did it your way as well, and it was also a pain. It appears that I have a burr or a very tight fit between my pin and the firing pin slot. Please don't misunderstand this, I do appreciate your reply. I was hopeful that I had missed something.
Shawn
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Shawn,
Don't have much of a close-up photo of the complete rifle, this will have to do for now. I put the rifle together with mostly Aero Precision parts, including an upper w/o forward assist. The handguard is an AP 15" unit, and the scope riser is a Weaver with an additional 20 MOA slope built in. I put it all together with parts I had in stock, thus some of them are CeraKoted in Magpul FDE, and part are anodized black. A complete match rifle 22RF upper is listed on CLE's site for $950, that's with a SS Douglas match grade bbl in your choice of 22"-24"-26", and it comes with one insert magazine & Frank's delrin single loading device. I bought just the bbl & modified M261 conversion unit and put it together for considerably less than that, although I don't recall now just how much the total of the parts cost me - to tell the truth, I tend not to add this sort of stuff up, since I don't really want to know what my 22RF addiction has cost me... Pretty sure my original SR 22RF upper was over $900 back in the late 90's, and that was with a modified rear sight with 1/4 MOA clicks.
I recall breaking a firing pin with that first 22 upper; don't recall whether it was because of some mistake I made or ?? But it was easy to find another pin - whether I got it from Frank at CLE, or Gun Parts Corp, I can't say. Never happened again, nor yet on this current upper, but I did buy two new FPs, and still have the one I didn't use. I've currently got a little 1" Weaver 3-15x42 Super Slam scope on it - since I don't shoot it much, it's good enough for what I do with it. If I were going to get serious about shooting it in matches, I'd swap the Weaver out for something like an Athlon Midas TAC 6-24x50. It's a lot easier to remember 100-200yd come-ups with a mil scope, since that's what all my other precision 22RF bolt rifles have on them, and having a scope with 10 mils/revolution & a zero stop is a must if you're going to be clicking from 50yds out to 200 or more and back. The Weaver Super Slams have really good glass though, and since I didn't have any other use for the 3-15, it went on the 22 upper.
Don't have much of a close-up photo of the complete rifle, this will have to do for now. I put the rifle together with mostly Aero Precision parts, including an upper w/o forward assist. The handguard is an AP 15" unit, and the scope riser is a Weaver with an additional 20 MOA slope built in. I put it all together with parts I had in stock, thus some of them are CeraKoted in Magpul FDE, and part are anodized black. A complete match rifle 22RF upper is listed on CLE's site for $950, that's with a SS Douglas match grade bbl in your choice of 22"-24"-26", and it comes with one insert magazine & Frank's delrin single loading device. I bought just the bbl & modified M261 conversion unit and put it together for considerably less than that, although I don't recall now just how much the total of the parts cost me - to tell the truth, I tend not to add this sort of stuff up, since I don't really want to know what my 22RF addiction has cost me... Pretty sure my original SR 22RF upper was over $900 back in the late 90's, and that was with a modified rear sight with 1/4 MOA clicks.
I recall breaking a firing pin with that first 22 upper; don't recall whether it was because of some mistake I made or ?? But it was easy to find another pin - whether I got it from Frank at CLE, or Gun Parts Corp, I can't say. Never happened again, nor yet on this current upper, but I did buy two new FPs, and still have the one I didn't use. I've currently got a little 1" Weaver 3-15x42 Super Slam scope on it - since I don't shoot it much, it's good enough for what I do with it. If I were going to get serious about shooting it in matches, I'd swap the Weaver out for something like an Athlon Midas TAC 6-24x50. It's a lot easier to remember 100-200yd come-ups with a mil scope, since that's what all my other precision 22RF bolt rifles have on them, and having a scope with 10 mils/revolution & a zero stop is a must if you're going to be clicking from 50yds out to 200 or more and back. The Weaver Super Slams have really good glass though, and since I didn't have any other use for the 3-15, it went on the 22 upper.
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I called Kriss yesterday, December 16th. regarding the firing pin breaks. They claim that they have a revision in place. Has anyone married a Kriss upper to a .223 lower. It would be the quickest way for me to swap out all of the lower parts. If the buffer tube becomes a problem, I can defeat the buffer and buffer spring.
Any information that you can give me regarding swapping out the parts.
Whatever gun I get, I plan on topping it off with a Trijicon 5-50x56 MOA. Or maybe a Athlon Cronus.
Any information that you can give me regarding swapping out the parts.
Whatever gun I get, I plan on topping it off with a Trijicon 5-50x56 MOA. Or maybe a Athlon Cronus.
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You are correct on the bolt needing to be in the open. Mine was really easy to push out. Hopefully it is something as simple as a burr . Keep us informed.
Hello Dr. Glock,
I have a 457 MTR and also a 457 Royal and it's pin is the same tight fit. That means that I am going to have to work on both of them. As the firing pin must be in it's full forward position for the "locking pin" to slide out freely. I am going to look into some other ways to take apart the bolt. From my point of view, gun manufactures are pretty clever people so the are not going to make something difficult to work on. I will be happy to let you all know what I find.
I also dipped a toe in the Kriss Defiance DMK22 pond. I just bought a couple magazines for inspection.
It is to bad that they don't have the loading assist buttons like the Vudoo magazines do.
Chat soon
Shawn
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Shawn,
Take a look at the m&p 15-22 mags, they have a button and only need a mag well adapter.
