CZ 457

[JSchell1309]

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/806703023656

Keep an eye on there for in stock. You can also visit the linked sites and sign your email up for in stock notification.

I still can’t make up my mind if I want the AT-one or the provarmint suppressor ready.

 

[502Chevelle]

Thanks, that works pretty good to have several vendors right there.

 

[Heyitsclint]

Thanks, that works pretty good to have several vendors right there.

I got the kid a rprr for his first rifle. I think the 457 at one is the one for me. Maybe a used Razor first gen.

 

[502Chevelle]

I went ahead and ordered a RPRR. Why? Because they were on sale, and I’ll shoot it, and if it doesn’t shoot to my needs, I’ll buy the CZ anyway, and then use the Ruger as a spare for friends so they can get hooked on this game. Just don’t tell my wife.

 

[Rwjeter]

I went ahead and ordered a RPRR. Why? Because they were on sale, and I’ll shoot it, and if it doesn’t shoot to my needs, I’ll buy the CZ anyway, and then use the Ruger as a spare for friends so they can get hooked on this game. Just don’t tell my wife.

Lips are sealed. I’m probably going to get two more RPRRs eventually. They’re still fun shooters. That way the kids can have something to shoot with. Which I guess means I’ll need to buy two more 22 cans...... It’s for the children after all.

 

[502Chevelle]

Sounds like a good plan. Wish I’d thought of that a few years back!

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

guys its "all for the children" isn't it?

at least that's what i tell the wife when she finds new additions in the safe

 

[Rwjeter]

guys its "all for the children" isn't it?

at least that's what i tell the wife when she finds new additions in the safe

Oh no, I've had that one. Remember?

 

[Mr. Z]

I got the kid a rprr for his first rifle. I think the 457 at one is the one for me. Maybe a used Razor first gen.

That’s what I’m planning too. Got the glass waiting in the safe already, waiting for more reports on the 457 VPT before I jump on it. There is a little voice in my head that keeps saying sell the razor and throw all the cash in to get a vudoo, but then I’m gun fund broke again with a really nice open sight 22...

 

[Ghogs Nightmare]

Diablo,
How high does that rail put your scope? Looks like its fairly high compared to the back of the stock, like the grain of the stock would hate to have to add a riser to it. Thanks..GH

 

[JaoeyP]

I also bought a rail from Bob (BScar). I had issues with the bolt hitting my Talley Tactical rings. Emailed with Bob and he had me send him my rings and he made a new rail to fit some of the larger rings. Awesome guy to work with.

 

[fastdiablo]

Diablo,
How high does that rail put your scope? Looks like its fairly high compared to the back of the stock, like the grain of the stock would hate to have to add a riser to it. Thanks..GH

I had to add an adjustable cheek riser and I’m switching to an different rail mount. The rail mount is fine w the 419 and cheek riser, I just don’t like the big 419 logo and I can’t really see the bubble level, so I ordered a b scar 25 MOA rail. I’ll be selling my 419 30MOA for 70 bucks shipped if anyone wants it. I’ll post a pic later if the rifle with my cheek riser. The cheek riser radically improved my weld and ability to get a good eye box and view of the target without shadowing etc. mandatory upgrade in my opinion.

 

[one66stang]

I am trying to figure out if I need the 30 MOA rail to shoot 300 yards of if i can get by with the 15 moa rail. Scope is a Vortex Gen 2 PST 5x25x50. Primary function of gun is NRL22 so a 50 yard zero. Would like to shoot the ELR22 matches with same set up. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[billmeek]

I'm a big fan of the Burris XTR Signature rings. You can use them to get up to 40 MOA of elevation with a 0 MOA rail. You can always change out the rail later if you need more than 40 MOA elevation.

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

with the vortex, you SHOULD be ok with the 15. but i'm always an advocate of get more than you need. better to have 30 moa and not need it all then to have 15 moa, max out your turrets and worry about having enough reticle

 

[Larry Jones]

Has anyone tested any ammo in these yet? Suggestions for best match ammo out of this gun?

 

[yotesniper66]

I had to add an adjustable cheek riser and I’m switching to an different rail mount. The rail mount is fine w the 419 and cheek riser, I just don’t like the big 419 logo and I can’t really see the bubble level, so I ordered a b scar 25 MOA rail. I’ll be selling my 419 30MOA for 70 bucks shipped if anyone wants it. I’ll post a pic later if the rifle with my cheek riser. The cheek riser radically improved my weld and ability to get a good eye box and view of the target without shadowing etc. mandatory upgrade in my opinion.

Diablo,

My 457 Varmint is set up identical to the one in your pic. I'm in the same boat with my Area 419 base, but I'm not willing to use a riser or mess with my stock. The 419 is a solid way to mount a scope, just too high for me.

I'm on a waiting list for a BScar 20 moa rail, just not sure what rings to use. I'm going to see if my Seekins lows will work, but doubt it. May have to go with Med or Med High.

I even thought about going with BScar's 0 moa rail and using Burris XTR Signatures, but I like Seekins rings too much to switch.

 

[fastdiablo]

@yotesniper66 i mounted my Bscar 25 moa today and took my 419 off. Bill has an "extra height" 25MOA if you email him, and it worked perfectly with my .87" Vortex low rings. that's a midas tac 4-16x44 objective for reference. the extra height rail is only 1/16" higher than the standard height rail, so my cheek riser made that a moot point. The bolt clearance is about 1/8" under the rear ring, so the extra height might be a safe bet regardless. here are some pics with the new cheek riser and new 25moa bscar rail. if anyone wants my 419 30MOA rail, DM me -$70 shipped. used 2 weeks, perfect.

 

[yotesniper66]

@fastdiablo. Thanks for the reply.

Judging from your pics, with my 50mm objetive and Vortex defender obj cap my Seekins lows (.82) most likely will not work and Seekins med (same as your lows) would be pushing it. Looks like I'm going to have to give the Seekins Med High (.92) rings a try. In the end, I'm not really losing much height switching from the 419 rail. I might just have to wait for KRG to release a Bravo for the 457.

I also have the Area 419 bolt knob, but haven't installed yet. What did you have to do to remove the factory knob?

 

[fastdiablo]

@fastdiablo. Thanks for the reply.

I also have the Area 419 bolt knob, but haven't installed yet. What did you have to do to remove the factory knob?

sounds like you're on the right track with the rings. i'll be interested to hear if you can get a good cheek weld with this stock. i was wayy below and my sight picture /eye box was unusable. I have a T1x at my FFL right now so will be trying the Bravo on that rifle..
as for the bolt knob, i wrapped some bicycle tube around it and twisted it off with pliers. was pretty easy. i used locktite to put the new one on.

 

[flatland1]

fastdiablo - Kind of a shame you needed the cheek riser on such a pretty stock. I'm only saying that because the grain of the stock on the CZ457 Varmint I bought looks a lot like stained pine - IOW, very plain compared to yours. I bought the Varmint while waiting on the opportunity to buy a Varmint MTR, thinking I'd get to a couple of gun shows in Feb, and have the opportunity to sell it & another American that I'd ordered in. No joy on the gun shows - we had 11" of snow with 45mph winds that 1st weekend, which kept me from being able to get to the 1st show, and though there was a fair crowd at the 2nd show this past weekend, I got narry a nibble on the Varmint.

I put one of Bill's BScar 25 MOA rails on the American I kept for myself, and mounted an old Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x44 in el cheapo Weaver 4x4 low rings - just about the right height for a solid cheek weld, and plenty of clearance for the adj objective. I really like the looks of the American (mine has nicely figured grain on the stock), am very pleased with the adjustable trigger, and it runs with 100% reliability. Just wish it had better accuracy. Got the bbl off mine right now, going to re-cut the crown. If that doesn't help accuracy, will be looking at replacing the OEM bbl with something better. Don't expect it to shoot quite as good as my V-22 Ranch, which proved to me how well Vudoo's in-house ACE bbls can shoot. The attached photo gives an idea of objective bell clearance with the BScar 25 MOA rail & low rings, though the Nikon is a 1" tube scope. 2nd photo shows how plain the grain of my Varmint's buttstock is compared to yours.

 

[fastdiablo]

@flatland1 agreed, the stock is absolutely beautiful. the finish work and grain are incredible for an inexpensive rifle, and the pics don't do it justice. it was either get a riser or toss it altogether. taking it out again tomorrow to try a few brands of ammo. i'll try and do some groups for the forum.

 

[Coldrolled]

I’m new to the forum so I hope I’m doing this right. I’m also new to shooting. Here’s my new CZ 457 Varmint MTR with a Tract 22 Fire 3-9x40 scope. My first effort at 40 yards gave me the pictured target. You can cover the five shots with a dime. It’s really cold here so this is the longest distance I can try until it warms up.

 

[flatland1]

Jeez Coldrolled - the wood in your MTR stock looks NICE! I'm still gonna pull the trigger on one of these MTRs if any of the wholesale distributors I have accounts with ever get any more of them in stock. I realize getting a stock as nice as yours is kind of like buying a lottery ticket (and it appears you hit the jackpot!), and I have no choice when it comes to getting one bought online from a distributor, but I guess I'll take my chances. That target is nothing to sneeze at either, especially out of a brand new bbl & fired by someone who considers himself a newbie....

 

[billmeek]

I started shooting NRL22 this year and in the random draw for February's match, I won an Area 419 rail for either a CZ 455 or 457. The only problem is I don't own a CZ. My solution: order a CZ 457 MTR.

It makes perfect sense to me. Win a $100 rail and order a $660 rifle to go with it along with likely spending that much again for another optic. <grin>

 

[gwalker]

I have Area419 15moa on my 455 and wished I had went with the 30.

 

[flatland1]

I started shooting NRL22 this year and in the random draw for February's match, I won an Area 419 rail for either a CZ 455 or 457. The only problem is I don't own a CZ. My solution: order a CZ 457 MTR.

It makes perfect sense to me. Win a $100 rail and order a $660 rifle to go with it along with likely spending that much again for another optic. <grin>

billmeek,
I think you're reasoning/logic is right on track! Especially in your choice of the MTR to utilize the 419 rail. While some of the 452 die-hards over on RFC are still casting disparaging remarks about the new 457 line, I'm a CZ convert because of the features of these rifles that I appreciate. I was initially attracted to the 457 mainly because of what I considered to be its really attractive appearance. The looks of my 457 American pretty well blow my old Remington 541T away. And that adjustable trigger! - easily got it adjusted to just over 1lb without any stoning, spring-swapping, etc. And since the BScar scope rails became available, I've been able to mount my old Nikon 1" Buckmaster scope low enough to get a good cheek weld. And after re-cutting the muzzle crown, the average accuracy of the American has improved measurably. There are still a couple of things I want to do to maximize the potential of this sporter, like experiment with action screw torque, and compare the ES & SD numbers over the chrono of the 457 to those of a V-22 - if the V-22's numbers are significantly lower than the 457's, then there's some ignition tuning that probably needs done. I'll go through these items before considering swapping out the OEM bbl for a custom. Since I've wanted a MTR since I first saw photos of them, and since several owners of MTRs have posted some good-looking groups, I'm still wanting to find one, especially if I could find one with wood as nice as coldrolled's new MTR.

 

[flatland1]

I took my CZ457 American & V-22 Ranch carbine out a few days ago to compare 10rd groups while testing three new lots of SK Std+ at 50yds. The conditions weren't bad - a little cool at 42F, but light winds & good light with no clouds. I shot off a portable bench, using a large, heavy Doggone Good Bag & rear bag. The 1st targets were shot last week, and after finding that one of the test lots was superior to the others, I took both these rifles out yesterday to do some shooting with the selected lot, as well as SK Pistol Match, Rifle Match, and Lapua Center-X. Temp reached 60F yesterday, although there was a variable breeze out of the north. Since the 1st targets were shot, I'd pulled the 457's bbl and re-cut the crown on the muzzle, as the original was kind of sloppy/ragged. I got the bore at the muzzle dialed-in within a couple of ten thousandths, and looking at the new 11* crown after cutting it, there was a large improvement. So, I'm guessing the improvement in groups was partially due to the new crown, and partially to the warmer temps. Still need to experiment by varying the action screw torque to see if there's anything more to be gained there. Will also shoot both rifles over a chronograph next time to compare ES/SD numbers - if the V-22's spreads are significantly lower than those of the 457, then I'll look into what can be done to tune its ignition system. Lighter striker spring, maybe re-shaping the firing pin? Whatever, I'm pretty happy with the 457 - it's been 100% reliable, the trigger - once adjusted to just over 1lb - is very shootable. And the BScar 25 MOA rail & Weaver rings I used set my old Nikon Buckmaster scope low enough to allow a good cheek weld. Now if I could just find a 457 MTR with wood as nice as coldrolled's rifle has...

 

[billmeek]

Since I've wanted a MTR since I first saw photos of them...

Same here, but I got sidetracked with my first 10/22 build.

... especially if I could find one with wood as nice as coldrolled's new MTR.

I'll have to go back through the thread and look at those pictures. I'm hoping to win the CZ "stock lottery" and get a nice looking stock on the 457. While hopeful, with my luck I'm also doubtful.

 

[flatland1]

Same here, but I got sidetracked with my first 10/22 build.



I'll have to go back through the thread and look at those pictures. I'm hoping to win the CZ "stock lottery" and get a nice looking stock on the 457. While hopeful, with my luck I'm also doubtful.

The photos of his MTR is just above my reply - look at post #210 The dark stripes in coldrolled's MTR stock remind me of nice English walnut. It might not look quite as impressive in real life, but I'd still take a MTR with a stock like that in a heartbeat...

 

[300ATT]

I saw the manners socked CZ 457 varmint precision trainer up on the wall at Mile High today $1,050.00. Heck of a good deal.

It IS a great time to be a rimfire guy ...

 

[flatland1]

I have to wonder if CZ will see fit to put the match-chambered bbl of the MTR on the precision trainer - seems like a very logical thing to do. If a shooter's going to invest the extra $$$ in a Manners stock, shouldn't he or she also get the best bbl that CZ makes available for the 457s?

 

[lrgrendel]

Purchased a CZ 457 MTR. Saw it today for the first time! It’s in jail now for 3 days in Florida.
I down loaded the manual. The trigger adjustment is not very clear.

Looking for any 457 owners with an explanation or help. (3 screws A,B AND C!!)

Thanks.

 

[PossumK]

Purchased a CZ 457 MTR. Saw it today for the first time! It’s in jail now for 3 days in Florida.
I down loaded the manual. The trigger adjustment is not very clear.

Looking for any 457 owners with an explanation or help. (3 screws A,B AND C!!)

Thanks.

CZ 457 TRIGGER DRAWING

This is my drawing of the CZ457 trigger and how it works for those who are new the CZ457. and the trigger how it works and what each screw does. HOW TO ADJUST CZ457 TRIGGER 1- Adjust sears engagement screw #49 in until it wont hold, then turn out until it holds. 2- Adjust weight of pull...

www.rimfirecentral.com

 

[lrgrendel]

CZ 457 TRIGGER DRAWING

This is my drawing of the CZ457 trigger and how it works for those who are new the CZ457. and the trigger how it works and what each screw does. HOW TO ADJUST CZ457 TRIGGER 1- Adjust sears engagement screw #49 in until it wont hold, then turn out until it holds. 2- Adjust weight of pull...

www.rimfirecentral.com

Thank you very much.
That is very helpful!

 

[darth_ritis]

I got an Area 419 rail in the NRL22 raffles and I think it's fantastic on my CZ. I love the bubble level, and they went above the call of duty putting a recoil pin in the back too.

 

[Adam Love]

A few weeks ago, I picked up a CZ 457 Pro Varmint. So far I have been very pleased with it! The new trigger was very easy to adjust and tune. I have mine setting at 1.5lbs and it breaks like glass. Topped it with a Area 419 - 15MOA rail and a Vortex HST 6-24x50.

My first 150-200 rounds I wasn’t blown away with it. Somewhere between the 200-300 round mark it turned a corner and really started to tighten up! It seems to really like the SK Standard + and Lapua Center-X. CCI Standard Velocity, Norma and Eley Contact all did ok, but nothing to write home about.

I then got brave and decided to pillar and glass bed it. I used a piece of steel brake line for the pillars and Devcon for the bedding compound. I also bedded about two inches of the barrel, for additional support. This tightened up the groups a little, but more importantly, made them more consistent. I haven’t gotten the random fliers near as often since bedding it.

 

[flatland1]

Adam, Nice job of bedding your 457. Since the last time I posted a reply on this thread, I've received a 457 Varmint MTR, and though I haven't shot enough with it to post any group photos, it's obviously a much better shooter than my American. Hoping to get some more groups with some higher grade ammo through it today, at both 50 & 210yds. And since you got some good results after bedding your ProVarmint, I'm thinking I've got nothing to lose by bedding both my American & MTR. The CZ guys over on RFC all seem to agree that their CZ .22LR rifles starting shooting better after several hundred rounds, and your results just confirm that. Wish I could say the same for the bbl on my American - it's got over 300rds through it to date, with very little if any improvement - aside from what the new crown I cut on its muzzle - that did help a bit.

 

[flatland1]

Had a really nice afternoon for shooting 22RF rifles a couple of days ago, so took the new CZ457 Varmint MTR out. Shot off a portable bench with bipod & rear bag, all rounds were fired over a chronograph to get data to allow me to compare the ignition consistency of this rifle to that of my V-22s. First photo is of 10rd strings fired on paper from 50yds; I'd cleaned the bbl pretty thoroughly after my last range session, but didn't see any movement of the zero on the scope, though I'll take it back out to see if that lot of SK Std+ will shoot smaller groups than it did here. 2nd photo is of a couple of 10rd groups on a steel full-size IPSC target from 210yds. Top one was shot with a good lot of SK LR Match, and was just over 3". Lower was with Lapua Center-X, and measured just over 2.5". These are very close to as good as I've been able to shoot with my V-22s. I need to spray paint a black aiming point and do this again, as the POI is very seldom on the POA at this distance on any given day. I'm always trying to hold on what I thought was the initial POA throughout a string like these, and having a reference POA would perhaps result in smaller groups. Whatever - if my 457 American had shot this well, I'd be dancing a jig & extolling the virtues of CZ's rifles. Very pleased with this MTR.

 

[Bantam1]

What are you guys using for a bore guide? I just picked up my 457 MTR but will need a bore guide at some point. The Bore Snake can only do so much.

 

[billmeek]

I ordered one a couple of days ago from YoDave while getting a trigger spring.

Yodave Products

cz 452 trigger kits and spring

www.yodaveproducts.com

 

[Bantam1]

Thanks!

 

[Mr. Z]

So I ordered a 16.5” 457 VPT today. Anyone know what I’m in for as far as lead time?

 

[POGPride]

I really liked my 455 precision trainer. When I saw the 457 I had to build one up. I decided to do a quick write up for anyone on the fence about making this purchase. See pictures below.

Build specs
CZ457 Precision Trainer- Manners Elite Carbon Fiber Stock
Area 419 scope base
Area 419 Bolt handle
Area 419 Arca Rail system
Lilja .900 Strait shank 16 3/4" match barrel
D.I.P. products billet magwell
D.I.P. products extended magazine release

I expected to need to adjust the trigger as I did with the 455 when it was new. But that was not the case. The trigger breaks like glass at just under a pound right out of the box. The trigger is much nicer than the 455 triggers, you can tell CZ put some thought into this. That is saying a lot too, the 455 was the best I can recall from a factory rimfire gun.

The Area 419 parts are really well made and beautiful just to look at. The Arca rail is the older model I had lying around from another build. This was before they added the locking feature. The bolt knob is outstanding. Credit hear to CZ for threading the bolt in the first place. The small bolt knob was really annoying on the 455. I had previously used a KRG bolt knob designed for the Remington 700 and epoxied it in place.

The DIP parts are also really well made. I had these same upgrades on the 455 and for $60 I figured why not. They don't affect accuracy or performance but they do make the gun feel nicer.

I had originally planned to "wait and see" on the Lilja barrel but I got a deal on the 457 with a 24" it was significant enough that it just made sense to buy the 24" gun and swap the barrel right away. The reason for wanting the short barrel is velocity. after about 16" 22lr starts to lose velocity to friction. The barrel install was a snap with the two set screws on the bottom of the action and lilja includes a shim kit system to achieve proper headspace. I have headspace set .001 off the lands for the Eley force 42g high-velocity ammo.

The action itself uses the same mags as the 455 and same quick barrel swap system as it did before. The trigger guard is better quality than the 455's and change from 90 deg to 60deg bolt throw is also a welcome upgrade.

I have about 200 rounds down the pipe and it is consistently achieving sub moa groups at 100 yards, right at MOA at 200, and consistently hitting a 6" plate at 400 yards.

Nothing lost in this new version of the CZ bolt action rimfire and it maintains the consistency I loved in the 455.

 

[winniethepooh]

Should’ve bought a Vudoo.



jk lol nice build

 

[POGPride]

I still might... Lol

 

[Mr. Z]

I’m doing the same but with the stock 16.5” barrel. Thanks for the write up, it’s my first venture into rimfire deeper than “minute of squirrel head” 10/22.

 

[KitchenMartin]

Here's some pics of my 455 varmint tumbhole with the 2 lowest rings I could find to fit my 2 scopes on, so I can avoid using a cheek riser. I though that it could help some people here with their choice of ring with the new 457.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of cheek riser. I know the importance of sight alignment while having your neck mussels completely relaxed. All my other rifles have adjustable cheek riser… It's just that tumbhole stock design that cannot receive any cheek riser properly. So, I had to find a solution with good sets of rings that would clear the objective from the barrel as well as the bolt handle from the eye piece.

This solution could be good also for those like me that do not want to drill holes in a nice piece of wood or carbon fiber stock to install an adjustable cheek riser. No offense to anyone here. This choice is personnal. I did drill holes in my savage plastic stock… but I chose a Godagrip cheek pad for my CZ 527 MTR for example.

So, here are the pics.
I hope that it will help!

Martin Kitchen


1. Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm 1'' tube + Leupold rings 1'' medium height (0.860''). Product code #54231.

RM Rimfire 11mm Medium Matte

Leupold® ringmounts are a high-quality alternative to firearm manufacturer ringmounts or as a no-tap mounting method for most .22 rimfire rifles with an 11mm, 13mm, or 3/8'' dovetail rail. This model is designed to fit an 11mm rail and any riflescope with a 1" maintube. And because these rings...

www.leupold.com

The 40mm objective bell diameter is 1.830'', clearance is about .090'' from the varmint barrel and the bolt handle is not touching the scope eye piece witch is 1.555' in diameter. (almost touching!) This set up is perfect for me as far as sight picture alignment.

2. Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm 30mm tube + Warne rimfire 30mm rings, medium height (0.990''). Product code # 731M

731 30mm 7.3/22 Medium Rings -

All steel rings with a horizontally split design and only ?" wide. Assymetrical reversible side clamp fits a 3/8" or 11mm dovetail. Securely mounts to firearm with Torx style T-15 socket cap screws, 25 in/lb. of torque recommended.

warnescopemounts.com

The 50mm objective bell diameter is 2.26'' and almost touching the barrel with 0.045'' of clearance. Same thing with the bolt handle. The eye piece diameter is 1.745'' on the widest (zoom ring). This set up is 0.130'' higher than the previous one… so not exactly the perfect eye alignment with the scope… but this is the lowest I could put my Vortex on.

3. As you probably noticed, the bolt body of the new 457 slides in the receiver differently than the 455. As I saw on the previous pics that some posted here, we have to be carefull not going too wide with the ring clamps. Some rings won't prevent the bolt to slide properly. The width of the clamps of the 2 sets of rings I proposed here are pretty slim. I'm almost sure the new 457 bolt body/handle will clear these rings.

4. The original packages.

I know sometimes fitting everything perfectly is a bit of compromise… With these 2 set up I could not benefit from the extra 20 or 30 MOA scope adjustment that a canted picatinny scope base could offer.

Your time to make a choice!

Happy shooting!

Martin Kitchen

 

[MDrimfirerookie]

very nice build. how do you like the new manners stock? did it come pillar bedded like the rest of the 457's?

 

[JaoeyP]

very nice build. how do you like the new manners stock? did it come pillar bedded like the rest of the 457's?

Yes, the new version is pillar bedded. Can't speak to the OPs experience, but as much as I liked the T4, the PRS is even more comfortable. I had just settled into a 455 VPT when I had the opportunity to get into a 457 VPT and the stock was one of the reasons I made the transition.