CZ TS2 Racing Green

[GenericBadGuy]

Yer arguing with a rock...
Jusayin....

Yeah, I know. I'm just going to move on. Might buy a CZ TS2 Green edition though. Just because lol.

 

[abn31c]

So supposedly they shortened the trigger reset even more from the tso and gave it the shadow 2 grip. That sounds like a winner to me.
Honost Outlaw did a good review, but he admits he's a bit biased.

 

[LuvDog]

I like it but it doesn’t fit a need for me since I have my TSO and my S2.

 

[502Chevelle]

I will add about that S2 grips, they are OK. Not bad, but not so great either. The LOK Bogie grips are some of the best hand filling grips that I’ve ever tried. My friend raved about them, and I was like, ok, whatever, but I tried them, and they really are very good. Give them a try.

 

[abn31c]

Agreed on the LOK grips, was mostly referring to the frame itself. But yes there are better grip panels out there than stock offering.

 

[jg6.5]

All the changes to production from last year in red. It's still a dying division. Production will likely be down nationally to where single stack is in about 3 - 4 years.

In my local area, production is effectively dead

Wow that’s interesting - I’ve been out of it for a year or so with new babies (among other things). Looks like a half-assed attempt to modernize it, but yet we still have the stupid 10 round restriction…go figure.

Looks like I may be venturing into limited or carry optics at some point.

 

[502Chevelle]

The production class was put in when the Brady Bill was running strong, and it was only legal to purchase guns with 10 round mags. The USPSA wanted to try to level the playing field for new people coming into the sport by keeping them legal as they purchased more mags for the guns. It was the right thing to do at the time. Before that, you only had open and limited, and no matter what division you shot, to be competitive you had to run an expensive built pistol. Production let anyone go purchase a new Glock, Smith, etc and be able to shoot and be competitive within the current laws. Of course things have changed with mag capacity and the Brady bill expired, but it keeps a division that people in states with mag capacity can shoot in without breaking the law.

 

[308pirate]

it keeps a division that people in states with mag capacity can shoot in without breaking the law.

Neither Production kept at 10 rounds nor Limited 10 are necessary for that. See rule 3.3.1.

Look at Canada. There all handguns are limited to 10 rounds. IPSC doesn't have Open 10, Standard 10, Classic 10, Production 10, or Production Optics 10.

Production here should follow IPSC in terms of magazine capacity: 15. Any modern service pistol fits at least that many, and a limit keeps the game from favoring any particular pistol. And 15+1 still means you're reloading at least once on any medium course and at least twice on any field course.

 

[308pirate]

Wow that’s interesting - I’ve been out of it for a year or so with new babies (among other things). Looks like a half-assed attempt to modernize it, but yet we still have the stupid 10 round restriction…go figure.

Looks like I may be venturing into limited or carry optics at some point.

The big change came in March of last year.

I'm a fan of the holster and mag carrier freedom but not a fan of the ridiculous weight limit. They should have kept Production weight where it was and moved it up a few ounces in Carry Optics so people with all steel guns that made production weight would not have to send their slides to be swiss cheesed to stay under max after adding an optic.

I also think Production capacity should be upped to 15 and Carry Optics brought down to 15 (now CO can use 141 mm mags)

 

[gigamortis]

We all know damn well the Single Stack 1911 crowd will never want to change from .45 AARP.

.45 AARP. I am laughing my ass off on that one!

I'm a die hard IDPA CDP shooter and I shoot USPSA occasionally in Single Stack major. There aren't many of us left! Carry Optics has taken off like wildfire over the past couple of years in IDPA and USPSA.

IDPA is my favorite as it is more carry oriented and no division can load to more than 10+1 capacity.

I do have great respect for the CZ pistol line, though. I started off 10+ years ago in USPSA Limited with a CZ-75 SAO. Once I found that a 1911 with a Hogue wraparound grip fit my hand better, I switched over and have been sticking with it ever since. I can pick it up with my eyes closed and extend it out and find perfect sight alignment every time when I open my eyes. I don't even consider another platform anymore unless it passes my blind point test.

One CZ / Dan Wesson pistol that has drawn my interest lately is the DWX. Its fire controls are 1911 parts, but with a CZ grip and double stack magazine capacity. Pretty much vaporware for a year or two so far, but I sure would like to get my hands on one.