Decisions Decisions, GA Precision or Tactical Rifles inc

I find myself similarly wrecked with a conundrum almost as difficult to navigate as yours. Please help. The San Antonio Spurs cheer leading squad has a few days off and they are begging to follow my every direction over the next 72 hours as I read aloud from the Kama Sutra while drawing from a bottle of Hennessy Beaute du Siecle. Of course I would choose the least smoking hot amongst them to apply a non-stop stream of mineral oil. To set the mood and pace Marina Yakhlakova, Janine Jansen, and Anna Netrebko are offering to play Carnival of The Animals in the nude (Le cynge being my favorite) and join in should the cheer leaders begin to show anything short of absolute commitment at any point. That's scenario A.

The alternative is to have the skin removed from my ball sack with a rusty adze and a pen knife by an inmate from a Russian lunatic asylum who goes by the name Buttercup Vyacheslav. This will happen while Celine Dion is blared at over 150db and I am water boarded with raw sewerage freshly siphoned from the sump of a Carnival cruise ship currently docked in Corpus Christie and carrying a 3,000 strong Indian tour group with a taste for especially intense curry and vindaloo. That's scenario B.

I'm really not sure whose decision is more difficult, yours or mine.

Awesome! Props for your scenarios. I LOL'ed. Oh yeah - get a GAP.
 
Was quoted 10 months at the beginning of January for a 100% custom build 6.5 CM with custom painted stock of my choice.... got an email today that my rifle is ready for shipping!

GAP all the way!
 
I find myself similarly wrecked with a conundrum almost as difficult to navigate as yours. Please help. The San Antonio Spurs cheer leading squad has a few days off and they are begging to follow my every direction over the next 72 hours as I read aloud from the Kama Sutra while drawing from a bottle of Hennessy Beaute du Siecle. Of course I would choose the least smoking hot amongst them to apply a non-stop stream of mineral oil. To set the mood and pace Marina Yakhlakova, Janine Jansen, and Anna Netrebko are offering to play Carnival of The Animals in the nude (Le cynge being my favorite) and join in should the cheer leaders begin to show anything short of absolute commitment at any point. That's scenario A.

The alternative is to have the skin removed from my ball sack with a rusty adze and a pen knife by an inmate from a Russian lunatic asylum who goes by the name Buttercup Vyacheslav. This will happen while Celine Dion is blared at over 150db and I am water boarded with raw sewerage freshly siphoned from the sump of a Carnival cruise ship currently docked in Corpus Christie and carrying a 3,000 strong Indian tour group with a taste for especially intense curry and vindaloo. That's scenario B.

I'm really not sure whose decision is more difficult, yours or mine.

Man, I really wish i could like this 1000 times.
 
Decisions Decisions, GA Precision or Tactical Rifles inc

Earth to keyboard commandos... Not everybody lives on the fucking internet. It's not like TR being douche canoes made national headlines.

The guy's posting history shows numerous posts on SH in the last three months.

Either he managed to miss the multiple threads in TR every.single.time he visited AND they didn't show up on Google during research into builders...or he's trolling.
 
I find myself similarly wrecked with a conundrum almost as difficult to navigate as yours. Please help. The San Antonio Spurs cheer leading squad has a few days off and they are begging to follow my every direction over the next 72 hours as I read aloud from the Kama Sutra while drawing from a bottle of Hennessy Beaute du Siecle. Of course I would choose the least smoking hot amongst them to apply a non-stop stream of mineral oil. To set the mood and pace Marina Yakhlakova, Janine Jansen, and Anna Netrebko are offering to play Carnival of The Animals in the nude (Le cynge being my favorite) and join in should the cheer leaders begin to show anything short of absolute commitment at any point. That's scenario A.

The alternative is to have the skin removed from my ball sack with a rusty adze and a pen knife by an inmate from a Russian lunatic asylum who goes by the name Buttercup Vyacheslav. This will happen while Celine Dion is blared at over 150db and I am water boarded with raw sewerage freshly siphoned from the sump of a Carnival cruise ship currently docked in Corpus Christie and carrying a 3,000 strong Indian tour group with a taste for especially intense curry and vindaloo. That's scenario B.

I'm really not sure whose decision is more difficult, yours or mine.
Normally I would not have wasted my time reading a thread with such a title but you alone made it worth it. Thank you sir.
 
I find myself similarly wrecked with a conundrum almost as difficult to navigate as yours. Please help. The San Antonio Spurs cheer leading squad has a few days off and they are begging to follow my every direction over the next 72 hours as I read aloud from the Kama Sutra while drawing from a bottle of Hennessy Beaute du Siecle. Of course I would choose the least smoking hot amongst them to apply a non-stop stream of mineral oil. To set the mood and pace Marina Yakhlakova, Janine Jansen, and Anna Netrebko are offering to play Carnival of The Animals in the nude (Le cynge being my favorite) and join in should the cheer leaders begin to show anything short of absolute commitment at any point. That's scenario A.

The alternative is to have the skin removed from my ball sack with a rusty adze and a pen knife by an inmate from a Russian lunatic asylum who goes by the name Buttercup Vyacheslav. This will happen while Celine Dion is blared at over 150db and I am water boarded with raw sewerage freshly siphoned from the sump of a Carnival cruise ship currently docked in Corpus Christie and carrying a 3,000 strong Indian tour group with a taste for especially intense curry and vindaloo. That's scenario B.

I'm really not sure whose decision is more difficult, yours or mine.

OMG!!! I have not laughed so hard in many years. My eyes were tearing up. You rock!
 
I can't believe the amount of dumb fucks who post stupid ass replies on here and talk about trolling and how someone could ask "such a stupid question". It blows my mind and the only conclusion I can come to is half of the members of this forum are immature punks who do nothing but play Call Of Duty and shit talk the entire time. It reminds me of AR15.com. Few people sit here like hawks and stay glued to this website and its forums and every post posted. He probably has no idea about the tactical fools and their business. And even if he did, just state why he shouldn't use them instead of "LOLLLLZ TROLL TO THE MAX, YEAH GO WITH TR BRO YOU'LL LOVE IT". Whose the real troll then?

Peter, choose GAP. TR has had a lot of problems delivering their product up to snuff to their customers and are apparently in legal trouble. There's other quality builders out there too, I just haven't done the research.
 
For the last time, NO TROLLING HERE. Got it!!!
Then I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

TR does not have a good reputation here. Several customers have been burned by unsavory business practices. They are suing the SH owner and another precision rifle gunsmith for pointing out issues on a build that they refused to correct for a customer. I would never do business with them. Do yourself a favor and perform a few google searches ("sniper's hide lawsuit tactical rifles TR" etc) and you'll understand the incredulous reaction from many of us to your post.

I see GAP as the other end of the spectrum from TR. The fit, finish and quality of their rifles is among the best. For a precision rifle, they have competitive prices. They have several "chinese menu" options, but you can also build something to your spec.
 
Ok, so when I saw this headline I was POSITIVE the OP was trolling. However, peterh seems to be asking the question in good faith so I'm answering in good faith.

GAP makes a hell of a rifle. If you're buying your first custom rifle and haven't had that much time behind precision rigs, then I'd make a list of everything you want and look out for any close matches to come up in the for sale section. You'll save a few hundred bucks trying out your first rig, and once you shoot it awhile, you'll learn what you want and what you don't want. The chances that you just happen to choose the components of a rifle that perfectly suit you in your first rifle are slim to none. Between the differences in stocks, triggers, actions, barrel lengths, barrel contours, twist, caliber, and scope magnification, reticles, knobs, illum, etc etc etc is something you can really only learn by shooting a lot and seeing what you're best with. If you're going to drop some serious cash, then save a few bucks by reading about all the excellent smiths (Gradous, Spartan, APA, SAC, LA Precision, Tac Ops, Accurate Ordnance, etc etc) and look for a good used rifle in the caliber and general specs that you want. Once you tweak your understanding of what will work and what won't, then order your dream gun from the smith of your choice. That's my unsolicited advice.
 
Why is it that this poster, as well as those first time posters bragging about their 0.18in groups with TR rifles, are all from Florida?

I cannot believe that a frequent visitor to this web site, with over 200 posts, has missed the TR controversy.

Or that in Florida SPR (aka bugholes.com), or X-Ring Accuracy, build great rifles.

And who is your "friend" that equates TR.net rifles with GAP?

Is his last name Rooney?
 
I can't believe the amount of dumb fucks who post stupid ass replies on here and talk about trolling and how someone could ask "such a stupid question". It blows my mind and the only conclusion I can come to is half of the members of this forum are immature punks who do nothing but play Call Of Duty and shit talk the entire time. It reminds me of AR15.com. Few people sit here like hawks and stay glued to this website and its forums and every post posted. He probably has no idea about the tactical fools and their business. And even if he did, just state why he shouldn't use them instead of "LOLLLLZ TROLL TO THE MAX, YEAH GO WITH TR BRO YOU'LL LOVE IT". Whose the real troll then?

Peter, choose GAP. TR has had a lot of problems delivering their product up to snuff to their customers and are apparently in legal trouble. There's other quality builders out there too, I just haven't done the research.

Then perhaps instead of blanketing us with his rampant stupidity and whining like a bitch.................Maybe he should of........I don't know... Use the fucking search function or read the first couple pages of the Bolt Rifle Section to see that its probally already been mentioned.

It has more to do with fucking trolls and newbs wasting everyone's time asking the same stupid fucking shit every day, beacuse they are too lazy, too stupid or just trying to troll. People here genuinley want to help, but people need to grow the fuck up and learn to do a little reading and research on their own.

Its VERY easy to learn who has an education and who barely got a GED. Some people expect everything to be given/force fed them on their whim and others man the fuck up, and do their own research.

When the balls drop , let us know. I have a pinata` I can break out for the festivities.
 
Why is it that this poster, as well as those first time posters bragging about their 0.18in groups with TR rifles, are all from Florida?

I cannot believe that a frequent visitor to this web site, with over 200 posts, has missed the TR controversy.

Or that in Florida SPR (aka bugholes.com), or X-Ring Accuracy, build great rifles.

And who is your "friend" that equates TR.net rifles with GAP?

Is his last name Rooney?
eravelo, if your comment is directed at me you must not have followed the conversation, #1 I'm not a first time poster, #2 I was not the one bragging about anything, #3 as hard as it might be to believe, I new nothing about the shit with TR, and if you want we can meet over here at Trail Glades Range and you can fill me in on all those great rifle builders here in florida....
 
I'm ready to place an order for a rifle, I narrowed it down to GAP or TR. The GAP I like is the Crusader, and the TR is their M40. The two rifles look basically the same and of course each maker will say theirs is better. Does anybody here have experience with TR, I have heard and read about GAP but not much about TR. Both are priced about the same too....

[MENTION=65805]peterh[/MENTION]

I have to ask...you came here to ask if anybody had experience with TacticalRifles.net, as you "narrowed it down to GAP or TR" and had "heard and read about GAP but not much about TR".

Might I ask how your short list for builders came to include TR, if you had not "heard and read much" about TR?

I ask because the second hit on Google for 'TacticalRifles.net' shows you a number of links here at SnipersHide (the very first of which has very detailed documentation of shoddy workmanship and poor customer service from Mr. Rooney), and the third hit takes you to a TheTruthAboutGuns post that discusses how TR is suing SnipersHide.
 
Leave it up to turdcutter to not realize the purpose of a discussion forum. WAAAAAHHHHHHHH somebody asked a question.

Falling for the troll?

Asking a question that has been beaten to death and is even on the FIRST page of bolt rifle search results is unsat.

Maybe rain men like you preffer to repeat the same tired shit 17 times a day, but it gets old to most people. You must like the sound of your voice.
 
I gotta give the guy a little benefit of doubt he is legit. I think it's more a factor that he posted his question before doing much research. I have been guilty of it myself then someone points out google or something and the light comes on and I think to myself "Dumbass you coulda done that!"
 
Asking a question that has been beaten to death and is even on the FIRST page of bolt rifle search results is unsat.

I know it's hard for you but if you use a little bit of brain power and check the time stamps you will see that when this thread was posted the TR thread you mention hadn't had a post for a week. It was not on the first page.

It's alright though. We know you can't think on your own like many and have to jump on the bandwagon because it's the simplest thing for a person with your IQ level.
 
[MENTION=65805]peterh[/MENTION]

I have to ask...you came here to ask if anybody had experience with TacticalRifles.net, as you "narrowed it down to GAP or TR" and had "heard and read about GAP but not much about TR".

Might I ask how your short list for builders came to include TR, if you had not "heard and read much" about TR?

I ask because the second hit on Google for 'TacticalRifles.net' shows you a number of links here at SnipersHide (the very first of which has very detailed documentation of shoddy workmanship and poor customer service from Mr. Rooney), and the third hit takes you to a TheTruthAboutGuns post that discusses how TR is suing SnipersHide.

Since reading is hard...


Patrick I agree with you except there is no need to be down right disrespectful towards one another, there are people here that I believe get great pleasure bashing others. GAP was my first choice, the only reason why I asked about TR is because a friend saw their web page, he knowing I was going to order a rifle suggested TR and I thought I would ask here. Thats all there is about this....
 
Leave it up to turdcutter to not realize the purpose of a discussion forum. WAAAAAHHHHHHHH somebody asked a question.

You know turdcutter as you call him does have one and only one valid point. That is that the search function is a great tool, I should have used it before starting this thread, I would have avoided this shit storm witch is hot enough with out adding more wood to the fire. As far as turdcutter, he must have been dropped a couple times when he was a kid, because he seems to enjoy going from thread to thread bashing the so-called NEWBS, and he apparently docent like people who only managed a GED, "I would like to see his resumé" probably a graduate of shit-kicker academy or something like that. It's unfortunate the amount of frustration that go's on around here, lets see how frustrated they will be if and when the anti gun socialist mother fuckers in this country get their way, but that's another topic.............
 
Since reading is hard...

A friend suggested he look into TR because the friend saw their webpage...and that alone put them on his short list of builders for a multi-thousand dollar rifle? Without any further research?

Does that make any sense to you?

I can read his posts all I want - that doesn't make his actions any more logical...hence the question.

Typing their name into Google and pressing enter takes a fraction of the time OP's post took to make.

I'm all for folks asking questions, even stupid ones - God knows I do it myself plenty...but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that seemingly went into the finalists for his build.
 
Peter, while I agree the search function is a great tool pretty much every question asked can be answered with enough research. If nobody asked questions or discussed topics on a discussion forum (imagine that?) then this place would be pretty dead. This isn't a "which scope base for my Remington 700" thread. It seems legitimate to me.

As for turdcutter he's like the fat kid in gym class nobody likes but he's all the entertainment on dodgeball day. He was making progress for awhile after he got a vacation but it seems he's slipping back into a tard relapse. Anybody else would have been on my ignore list a long time ago but his stupidity is funny, not just annoying.
 
I know it's hard for you but if you use a little bit of brain power and check the time stamps you will see that when this thread was posted the TR thread you mention hadn't had a post for a week. It was not on the first page.

It's alright though. We know you can't think on your own like many and have to jump on the bandwagon because it's the simplest thing for a person with your IQ level.

Did someone make fun of your boyfriend? Why so defensive?
 
You know turdcutter as you call him does have one and only one valid point. That is that the search function is a great tool, I should have used it before starting this thread, I would have avoided this shit storm witch is hot enough with out adding more wood to the fire. As far as turdcutter, he must have been dropped a couple times when he was a kid, because he seems to enjoy going from thread to thread bashing the so-called NEWBS, and he apparently docent like people who only managed a GED, "I would like to see his resumé" probably a graduate of shit-kicker academy or something like that. It's unfortunate the amount of frustration that go's on around here, lets see how frustrated they will be if and when the anti gun socialist mother fuckers in this country get their way, but that's another topic.............

Shit Kicker Academy.....is that the one where you learn Rex-Kwon-Do. You think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys? Forget about it.

Go back to your TR overloads and come up with a better plan. You guys have already failed like 8 times trying to post fake shit...............so might want to change up tactics.
 
A friend suggested he look into TR because the friend saw their webpage...and that alone put them on his short list of builders for a multi-thousand dollar rifle? Without any further research?

Does that make any sense to you?

I can read his posts all I want - that doesn't make his actions any more logical...hence the question.

Typing their name into Google and pressing enter takes a fraction of the time OP's post took to make.

I'm all for folks asking questions, even stupid ones - God knows I do it myself plenty...but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that seemingly went into the finalists for his build.

Don't be bringin' no logic up in hur.

The fact that he brought up TR and GAP.... and only them.......means he is either the laziest/stupidist person on this site or his a troll.

Either way, he should not be catered to as that just encourages more shitbags to do the same shit.
 
[MENTION=65805]peterh[/MENTION]

I have to ask...you came here to ask if anybody had experience with TacticalRifles.net, as you "narrowed it down to GAP or TR" and had "heard and read about GAP but not much about TR".

Might I ask how your short list for builders came to include TR, if you had not "heard and read much" about TR?

I ask because the second hit on Google for 'TacticalRifles.net' shows you a number of links here at SnipersHide (the very first of which has very detailed documentation of shoddy workmanship and poor customer service from Mr. Rooney), and the third hit takes you to a TheTruthAboutGuns post that discusses how TR is suing SnipersHide.[/QUOTE


This is exactly what happened, I had already decided on placing the order with GA, a friend who shoots with me called me and asked if I had seen TR's web page and that they were here in Florida. I went on the web page and looked at it. Since I new nothing about them I decided to ask here. Dumb Fuck me didn't use the search and therefore knew nothing about the fucking law suit, and that in a nut shell is what happened.

I realize that I'm not an expert in any of this like a lot of other people her on the hide, I do shoot a TRG so that must qualify me for some type of booby prize. The truth for those who may not know, here in South Florida there are few places to shoot long range, you have to really love the sport to spend the kind of money that custom rifles cost and drive for hours to shoot. The closes 1000 yard range is near Tampa Florida that's about 4 hours for me. I'm not new to shooting I just have not had the opportunity to partake that much in this sport. A custom rifle has been in my bucket list for a long time so I decided I'm not going to wait any longer. Hope this explains the situation.....
 
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A friend suggested he look into TR because the friend saw their webpage...and that alone put them on his short list of builders for a multi-thousand dollar rifle? Without any further research?

Does that make any sense to you?

I can read his posts all I want - that doesn't make his actions any more logical...hence the question.

Typing their name into Google and pressing enter takes a fraction of the time OP's post took to make.

I'm all for folks asking questions, even stupid ones - God knows I do it myself plenty...but I can't wrap my head around the thought process that seemingly went into the finalists for his build.

Hey! TR was not on any short list of mine, I simply asked for a fucking opinion. If there were no lawsuit everybody would have said they are shit stick with GAP period. That would have been that....
 
You don't have to worry about him or anyone else dethroning you anytime soon.

OMG HAS ANYONE HEARD OF GAP or JP........DO THEY LIKE MAKE GUD GUNZ.

WHY SHOOD I BUYZ ACWURCY INTERNABNITIONAL WHEN GANDE MOUTNAINZ HAZ MOSSBURGS FO THREE FIDDY

TRGZ IS HUNKS O SHITZ CUZ I AM TO TARDED TO DO SIMPLE DIAGNOSTICZ OR I INSTALL BOLTS RONG

MUH SEAL FRIEND SAYZ HE SHOT HO CHI MIN WIT HIS M1 CARBEANZ @ 1700m...... HE SAYZ BUY TR.



Well thats a relief. Luckily for you, there are still plenty of people here willing to cater to the lowest denominator. If you need someone to draw pictures of fingerpaint to help you understand...there are plenty of occupational therapists out there.

Keep on keeping on.
 
Guys,

I hoping you can help me out too with a similar dilemma. I'm wondering if I should send my build to GAP or try to install it myself by cutting the threads with a file? Input?

Thanks
 
This entire forum has over 70k members. I think it is a bit ambitious to assume that every single member is privy to every bit of drama that happens related to this site. Some of you guys really need to grow up and stop throwing rocks.
 
eravelo,you can fill me in on all those great rifle builders here in florida....

As you know by now, TacticalRifles.net is a sensitive topic around here, and there have been many a troll poster that has baited us before. With all the recent history the mere mention of Rooney's name or his company cannot but get a heated response. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Southern Precision Rifles aka bugholes.com Southern Precision Rifles , at the west end of Alligator Alley in Naples, but they are not taking in work until August.

X Ring Accuracy, up the road from SPR in Parrish, Florida is also highly regarded.

GAP is tremendous, but if you want to see your builder personally these guys are great.

BTW if you like this type of shooting checkout Long Shot Range outdoor 500 yard long range rifle range in Miami, FL in Homestead.
 
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