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Decisions Decisions, GA Precision or Tactical Rifles inc
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....and now you've done it !
What"s next...dividing by 0?
hmmmm let's try it heh heh.......................................................
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Man, I know now and understand about everybody's feeling regarding this whole mess with TR, I'm with you guy's all the way. I'm not thin skinned I just don't care for all the nonsense that go's on here by some idiot like cobracutter AKA turdcutter. and all the rest of the bashing gang. By the way, Ken from GAP called me today while I was the range and we discussed a few issues regarding the rifle I want to order, we could not talk much because of all the noise but I'm calling him tomorrow to finalize my order, so see I'm not a fucking troll or any of that other bullshit. As far as I'm concerned there all a croc of shit...
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I believe you have made a wise decision on who to have build your rifle. I hope you enjoy it very much!
If you "understand about everybody's feeling regarding this whole mess with TR", then you should be able to also understand, and get over, the incredulous responses from the SH regulars.
What are you going to order from GAP? Details please.
I have and always will thank anyone for giving me honest constructive opinions and advise, but I will NEVER thank anyone for being total jack asses, abusive and disrespectful. Are these guys going to apologize tomorrow when I post that I did as I stated ordered a GAP rifle, will they realize that they were wrong that I was not a troll?? I will post that tomorrow. There are many like me that feel that these uneducated insensitive and abusive bashers are more a detriment to this forum and I refuse to just keep quite and take it. So yes I do thank those that responded to my post in a kind and informative way, and to hell with all the others.......
I'm going to order a standard Crusader, I can't afford to get to creative with this build because the cost go's up. The only none-standard item will be the threaded muzzle with thread protector.
When you start ordering adjustable comb, barrel fluting, jeweled trigger, and a host of other things a $4000 gun crypts up to over $5000+. As it is this will be a dream gun for me....It's going to be a long six months wait for the gun but It will give me time to decide on scope and such....
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The Crusader is one badass rifle. My dream rifle would be one of their mil-type rifles, especially the M40A3 or A5, but that's just me. Oh yes, some day she will be mine and I'll name her...Gloria or maybe Doris...
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The Crusader is a fine rifle. I agree with the thread and cap. American Precision Arms has a new Gen II bastard muzzle brake that will attach right on the standard thread, but it requires no contouring or timing and it's a side ported brake. Other options to consider are the R&D or the Badger FTE Mini.
Another option you might want to consider is the for the Templar V2 (integral lug and rail receiver). Over time, you might want to move on from the 308 into something like 243 Win or 6.5 Creedmoor, which have better ballistics. If you do, a 1 piece receiver is ideal for a switch barrel platform; all that's needed is an action wrench and a barrel vise. This is a "nice to have", not a "must have" as the standard templar (I think) has a pinned recoil lug.
What is your plan for optics? Bushnell DMR, SWFA HD, and Vortex Razor would be fine choices. Ken can get you the correct rings if you tell him what scope you intend to mount. Definitely get a Harris bi-pod w/ KMW pod lock too. Might want to consider a Triad Stock pack to substitute for the adjustable comb; they are nice and come with velcro shims to set comb height.
I wish I could get all the other goodies but things are what they are. I'm running a NXS 3.5-15X50 ZS .1 mil MLR on my TRG 308. I like the NF alot and have had no issues with it. I would like to put a USO on it but I don't see that happening unless I find one used in nice condition. I got a hell of a buy on this NF, I wish that deal would present itself again. I paid $1450 NIB. That was six months ago....
What do you think about the Thunder Ranch, I was talking to Ken today getting his opinion on it, we were comparing the two rifles. He said they are of course different but with the same accuracy. For me the crusader has similar stock grip area as my TRG and I like the feel of that style. Man I keep thinking of all those months of waiting, oh well....
I know nothing of the Thunder Ranch except that I lust after it. That is a hell of a good looking gun.
Peter,
After reading all of the posts, back and forth, I can see that you seem legit. Sorry for all of the other posters regarding their negative comments. They have nothing better to do and that is sad. I just wish that if they showed just a percentage of that passion and directed it towards competition, we would have some amazing turn outs at some of the tactical matches. But, such as it is.
I have the GA Precision Hospitaller. It came with a lot of extras that I really love, such as a Templar V2 action, fluted Bartlein barrel and Manners T4-A with the adjustable cheekpiece. I would try to stay with one of the semi-custom rifles and not go full custom. Going full custom will cost you quite a bit, as I see you have found out.
I would also recommend the Templar V2 action because then you can use the AICS AW magazines, which are a double stack magazine, allowing you more options while barricade shooting and such. The short magazine, while still holding 10 rounds, is a plus in many people's book.
Curious about your caliber choice. They do offer many calibers, but the 6mm Creedmoor and the 6.5 Creedmoor are their own creations and they like to push that caliber. Something to think about, but Bryan Morgan, the winner of the 2014 Sniper's Hide Cup last month, shot with a 6mm Creedmoor. Think really hard about your caliber choice. I plan on changing mine from .308 Winchester to some kind of 6mm platform. Either 6mm Competition Match, 6mm Creedmoor, or 6mm SLR. Consider what you want to use the rifle for. In my case, I am competing with it.
If you have any other questions, please let me know. Also, as I have seen you mention wait times, understand that GA Precision is all about under promising and over delivering. In my case, i was promised 6 months and it was in my hands in 3. You just never know when they get things into their production wait line. Just know that you will get an amazing rifle that will outshoot all of your buddies' rifles and then some. People who shoot long range will know about the GAP name and they will want to look over your rig.
Let us know what you eventually get. You cannot go wrong with GA Precision.
He's really giving you the non-gun equivalent of your decision. It should be pretty easy.
Thanks and I agree there is to much aggression, and it's misdirected because our real enemies are the anti-gun socialist, those are the ones we should all be aggressively attacking; "figure of speech of-course.
I'm staying with the 308 because it's what I load for and I'm not going to compete. I had a total knee replacement last year and I still can't kneel on it. Besides, as I posted earlier in this thread, here in South Florida I have not heard of any high power rifle matches going on. We just had a new range open south of us that boasts a 500 yard range and I hear it's always booked full on the weekends. We are the boating capital of this country, not shooting. I nevi these guy's I see on youtube shooting out west, open country for miles, wow...
I would like to get the threaded barrel in case later I want use a brake, and yes the Templar V2 action would be nice but see there go's the budget, what's a guy to do right....
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The only real difference between these rifles is the stock. Some people prefer more of a hunting style stock. The Thunder Ranch is the epitome of a jack of all trades (master of none) rifle ... kinda like the F/A-18 aircraft. If you see yourself going hunting, the TR may be slightly more ergonomic and its 1 lb lighter. If you see yourself doing most range work, the Crusader may do the job a tad better. There's not really much of a difference between them to mark how one has significant advantages over the other. They are effectively the same price.
If you can't decide between them and need input, my vote is for the Crusader.
I have a Crusader in .308 with a USO LR-17. It is an unreal gun. One ragged hole at 100 yards with any ammo I've used.
Peterh, please do the research first, then tell your friend and everyone you shoot with TR minors in rifle building, but majors in con-artistry. Because, that's exactly what you're going to find out. This isn't a "shit-storm" or feud, this is a con-artist operating in the full view of a shooting sports community that, apart from this site, seems to lack the courage to call him out on it, or even deny him access.
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Decisions Decisions, GA Precision or Tactical Rifles inc
How did I miss the start of this thread!?! Epic! lol
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That name is used in Jack Coughlin's sniper novels. Kyle Swanson is the main character, Excalibur is his rifles name.
I also want to see the bashers apologize for their shit throwing. People are quick to throw shit in public for everyone to see but when proven wrong never publicly appoligize. If you want everyone to see you as a man by throwing shit then man up and eat some crow by admitting you were wrong publicly. I know all the ones who threw it are still reading this so man-up.
I'm pretty sure the folks at Hornady would have issue with the assertion that the 6.5CM was GAP's idea.
I stand corrected. The 6mm Creedmoor was the brain child from GA Precision, not the 6.5mm Creedmoor. From my limited understanding, the 6mm is a wildcat of the 6.5mm, just 6.5mm Creedmoor brass necked down to a 6mm bullet.
My apologies.
I put my trust in Tactical Rifles view the world class results! Just arrived last month...
This is just my personal experience. You make up your own mind.
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This is just my personal experience. You make up your own mind.
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Hey Man, sorry for all the haters here. Makes you wonder who's on who's knees for who??? Right? A lot of these guys say their grown men but I have come to relies that their is some females trolling as men on here, by their responses. Anyway, I know more about, GA. Haven't heard anything until the Hide about the other, so it seems to me that the Hide is given TR all their advertisement for free, in the long run, "rather it's good or bad." If you haven't noticed, you have a small group of trolls on here that seem to prefer one brand over another and the thing is they most likely don't own "any" brand at all! I don't know Mr. George Gardner or do I know the other guy either. But I do know that I'm not a "brown noser", and I will not pretend to know ether one as well. No one pays me or indorses me in any shape or form, so I will not talk better about anything unless I have some type of experience with it. Until the "endorsement train" roles in, I will not be bought. Lol, and for that to happen, you have to spend a lot out of your own pocket first, witch I don't have, "in competing or some nich." Anyway with all that said, I want you to do a little research on your own, because if I was a gambling man I would say, you have really got your mind already made up. Thanks, BullyDog
See, I can be a Wet Between the Legs Bitch to!!! Learn some respect for people online man and respect will be given back 10 folds. Please stop buying the things others have that you seem to look up to, I hate to see another grown man act like that! We all put our pants on the same at the end of the day, "Brown Noser."
Missed the beginning of this thread and all the drama.
Is everybody aware that the search feature is absolutely useless if you enter acronyms like GAP, TR, etc ? Same is true for certain calibers. So unless you are familiar with the site and know where to look it is entirely possible to miss something that is 'obvious' to the regulars.
If you googlefu 'TR site:snipershide.com' you'll get what you are looking for.
Maybe there is a way to improve the local search feature.
Is everybody aware that the search feature is absolutely useless if you enter acronyms like GAP, TR, etc ? Same is true for certain calibers. So unless you are familiar with the site and know where to look it is entirely possible to miss something that is 'obvious' to the regulars.
If you googlefu 'TR site:snipershide.com' you'll get what you are looking for.
Maybe there is a way to improve the local search feature.
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Ahhh.. the ignore function is still my best friend. Even after Bullydorks quoting me, I cannot read his comments. Life is good.
[MENTION=104808]BullyDog[/MENTION], I appreciate you putting yourself out there, especially in a community of testy and outspoken individuals as can be found here on the Hide. Tackling transgender issues is not something I would have ever suspected to find on the Hide, much less in a thread tossing about opinions on the quality of this rifle or that. But my hat goes off to you, brave sir/madame. What I find especially appealing about your posts is the never ending stream of double entendre, perhaps my most favorite form of innuendo (I mean that word quite literally, save yourself the stiffy). To wit:
This seems the archetypal gender mis-identification issue. My only advice is to keep trying plenty of both, if more is even a physical possibility. Who knows, at the end of the day you may be a switch hitter. The important thing is to do what makes you feel happy.
Oh, I bet you do! For most Hide regulars I am here to tell you that BullyDog does not refer to GA Precision. He is talking about a medical condition known as granuloma annulare. It appears as skin colored bumps most often over areas that are subject to frequent mild injury. As you can tell from the quote above, BullyDog is talking about his knees. Haha BullyDog, what a clever she-man you are! LOL!!!
This is an interesting one. At first read one might think it is a misspelling of "endorse". This would be easy to do as there are so many seeming misspellings and offenses to grammar, which a lay person may diagnose as a combination of any two of the following three:
1. Catastrophic head trauma
2. Being deprived of oxygen at birth
3. A diet comprised entirely of leaded paint chips from ages 0.5 through 17.
BullyDog, I am here to dissuade such ignorance. The keen reader would note that an indorsement is, borrowing from Civ Code Cal:
Indoresment... The act of a payee, drawee, accommodation indorser, or holder of a bill, note, check, or other negotiable instrument, in writing his name upon the back of the same, with or without further or qualifying words, whereby the property in the same is assigned and transferred to another. That which is so written upon the back of a negotiable instrument One who writes his name upon a negotiable instrument, otherwise than as a maker or acceptor, and delivers it. with his name thereon, to another person, is called an “in- dorser,” and his act is called “indorsement.”
Which of course begs the question, what the hell is BullyDog indorsing and what is this "shape" or "form" he is talking about? BullyDog, please do tell us. In the mean time I will have to guess. The "form" is your very own form. The "shape" is outline of your form (as seen in a blurry craigslist ad?). The indoresment appears as a tramp stamp just above the anal fissure with BullyDog tatooed in some highly stylized gothic font (of course this is presumptuous of me and I mean no offense if your actual sense of style differs).
There is so much more material you give me to work with but I'll stop here, unless you think otherwise. BullyDog, the pace of your posts is simply blistering. 217 so far in your first month on the Hide (almost 11 per day). I wonder, is this behavior the result of the hormone treatments? Are you post-op or pre-op?
Welcome to the Hide!
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These TR guys are outright thieves. You ought to call the cops on them.
Should register www.TacticalRiflesdotNetsuckandDavidRooneyisathief before someone beats me to it.
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