Defiance released a new action today! This has me scratching my head a bit. Why is it $100 less than the deviant with the same features and added precision to the bolt? Anyone have any thoughts/insight?
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I read that. Question still stands about price.
What features does anyone else offer other than trigger hanger now? Seems to me defiance is just pricing these to move!They have to compete with other precision actions which have more features. Competition on the market means the customer reaps the benefits.
What features does anyone else offer other than trigger hanger now? Seems to me defiance is just pricing these to move!
Yes and no, I see the one piece bolt as a feature in it self. They do offer mechanical ejector in their elite models.Mechanical or blade type ejection, interchangeable bolt heads to name a couple.
Yes and no, I see the one piece bolt as a feature in it self. They do offer mechanical ejector in their elite models.
Why no 3 lug options?As some have already noted, with the development of our newer bolt design that you've seen already on the Tenacity and the Elite, we are able to achieve the same desired quality but with fewer steps and less waste. We also won't be offering the Ruckus with quite as many possible customizations as our flagship Deviant. With some new machines, fewer steps, and less variations between models, we're able to offer a great action at a slightly reduced cost, with the tolerances everyone wants.
I just wish defiance would use a three lug design
10-4. Was just curious. I likes options and choices.There are plenty of other great options for 3 lug designs, without us moving from our current model, which along with a few other great manufacturers has done just fine.
What’s the wait time on lefty magnum bolt face?As some have already noted, with the development of our newer bolt design that you've seen already on the Tenacity and the Elite, we are able to achieve the same desired quality but with fewer steps and less waste. We also won't be offering the Ruckus with quite as many possible customizations as our flagship Deviant. With some new machines, fewer steps, and less variations between models, we're able to offer a great action at a slightly reduced cost, with the tolerances everyone wants.
Until recently, defiance required a smith to have the dimensions.
What’s the wait time on lefty magnum bolt face?
Um, wow! That’s even more exciting.Right now our lead times are about 30-60 days out.
Their bolts are not expensive either.Yes and no, I see the one piece bolt as a feature in it self. They do offer mechanical ejector in their elite models.
I just wish defiance would use a three lug design
Curious about this as well. Was hoping they would also determine that Deviants by action length made within a certain past timeframe and going forward would also have a headspace guarantee.The Ruckus has a headspace guarantee, but the top of the line Deviant does not have a head space guarantee?
Just a guess, but I’m sure it’s due to the fact that the deviant has interchangeable bolt heads and the Ruckus doesn’t not ensuring that each one is exact.Curious about this as well. Was hoping they would also determine that Deviants by action length made within a certain past timeframe and going forward would also have a headspace guarantee.
Valid point. Not interchangeable like a Bighorn per se, but they do have custom bolt nose options that would limit the ability to guarantee headspace on the Deviants across the board.Just a guess, but I’m sure it’s due to the fact that the deviant has interchangeable bolt heads and the Ruckus doesn’t not ensuring that each one is exact.
Yeah my mistake, I was confusing it with the bighorn but as @Gunfighter716 pointed out with the different options available, my thought may still be valid.Dillhole,
Deviant has a one piece bolt.
Stay tuned for the future...The Ruckus has a headspace guarantee, but the top of the line Deviant does not have a head space guarantee?
When I said dimensions, I meant headspace so you could screw your own barrel on. So you're saying the Deviants didn't have as consistent headspace? I'm really confused.You're confusing requiring smiths to have the dimensions with offering highly customizable actions and variants.
When I said dimensions, I meant headspace so you could screw your own barrel on. So you're saying the Deviants didn't have as consistent headspace? I'm really confused.
Ok, are we talking 1-2 months?Stay tuned for the future...
Defiance has always been kind to the lefty crowd. We aren’t getting left out. Looks like now I have another excuse to upgrade my trusty old war pony from a Nesika to a ruckus. This couldn’t come at a better time as I’ve been stressing out over what action I wanted without breaking the bank. Unlike 15 years ago lefty options in custom actions today is excellent.What about us lefty's ?
What about us lefty's ?
Agree you have all been very lefty friendly! Will the Ruckus be avail left bolt/right eject?