Department of Education.. buh bye!!!

Did you get all that gibberish out of your autographed copy of Mao’s Red book?

That's you, homey- talking bad about your country on the internet all day and repeating Kremlin messaging.

You didn't answer me before- was it you, or another member who inserted the non-sequitur about "Red China- HOORAY!" into the Ukraine thread??
 
Website is looking very fake, my dude.

Baltimore CIty or Baltimore County?

The average cost per pupil in Baltimore City public schools is $23,862, not $15,133.

A cursory search also reveals that private school tuition runs $20K to $40K per pupil in Baltimore City, depending on grade level.

As for the outcomes? The K-12 public schooling that I attended beats a lot of for profit schools in both actual standardized testing results and future outcomes... including the ones right there in the same area- and those are truly pricey.

Are you trying to construct an argument that putting a toll booth between the parents and teachers makes the kids smarter?

What exactly are you trying to articulate?
You get that from your special ed teacher?
 
That's you, homey- talking bad about your country on the internet all day and repeating Kremlin messaging.

You didn't answer me before- was it you, or another member who inserted the non-sequitur about "Red China- HOORAY!" into the Ukraine thread??
Probably you dropping the CHICOM shit.

Speaking of non answering you didn’t answer mine either.
 
Si.

Trump can sign it or not but he doesn't have complete control over what's in it.
So with a Republican House and a Republican Senate the only power President Trump actually has is to scare Department of Education employees into quitting.

Aah the joys of checks and balances.

-Stan
 
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Probably you dropping the CHICOM shit.

You're not making any sense.

You are a Commie shitbag.

You talk bad about your country on the internet, hate American values and culture, and traffic in Kremlin and CCP narratives.

You have "fuck your democracy" written under your name, but I have news for you Komrade- you and the Commies will NEVER win.
 
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You're not making any sense.

You are a Commie shitbag.

You talk bad about your country on the internet, hate American values and culture, and traffic in Kremlin and CCP narratives.

You have "fuck your democracy" written under your name, but I have news for you Komrade- you and the Commies will NEVER win.
And you’re a degenerate subhuman.

We’ve already won.

Trump’s your president bitch. Or should I say @GreenGO Juan ‘s bitch
 
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Government throwing tax payer money at a problem doesn’t make it better. Private contractors with good anti corruption policies always results in a better outcome. 10x the work done for half the price


Private school dumbass

Yes very sketch site. My dude. What a douchebag you are

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And that's almost double what most public schools spend per student. Big surprises when you see the locations the fraud and waste are happening.
 
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At "My private elementary school" tuition covers about 1/3 the costs. Benefactors and fundraising equally the rest. We have big families and they usually have enough expenses. The school has resources and connections to tap into concerned citizens. We're about 8:1 students to staff. We've got alumni in trades and med school, and none in prison. Our tuition is about 1/8 of the city's top shelf private school.
 
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I don't believe there is any significant number of people in DOE who are as you said "that work there that have nothing to do with the politics". Maybe there are 1 or 2... maybe. I guarantee you that 98% or more voted biden though, so they go along with the liberal insanity and that is what has hurt us so badly.

Bringing educational control to the state level won't hurt at all, and can only help, as parents and citizens are a ton closer to that level vs someone in DC. Ultimately, no matter where the source of power is, parents have to want their kids to get good education and do their part to make that happen. Taking it from FED to state level just allows the parents to do that who want to, which is most.
Respectfully-

I think the statement of party lines is a bit less skewed than 49-1 but for the sake of conversation (not argument, conversation) let's say it is. Please permit me to take some liberties in my thought process but even if 98% of DOE is comprised of what we used to call "card carrying" democrats, I can't help but question how that would make it "alright" or any different than what they did to us in 2022 (I haven't forgotten) about it being a justifiable action then because I'd wager the same argument was made in DU that 98% of those refusing the jab as a condition of employment were likely "MAGA" anyways. I'd offer the point that the argument is the same and leads to similar results and all but guarantees nothing will be fixed nationally but rather continues the 'tit for tat' strategy on both sides with each iteration 'upping the ante' with more government control, more loss of inalienable rights and the folks that we should be angry with continue to perpetuate this never-ending battle with not only impunity but also getting exactly what they wanted in the first place, more power.

If we really believe what we've spent the past 4 years saying we wanted about fixing things we have to abandon the strategy of "we'll get 'them' back now but this time even harder". As long as we do that, we're digging into the 'eye for an eye' strategy and you know what they say about leaving everyone blind I'm sure.

What I believe we need to see and what I hope is for us to stop looking at each other as "R's" & "D's" and start looking at each other as Americans and focusing on what unites us rather than separates us. It's going to be an awfully hard and long road too after generational brainwashing (on both sides). But it starts with where we focus our efforts and the rhetoric in which those efforts are conveyed.

Just for one term- I would like to see the focus being on the deeply rooted corruption that exists with both parties of our elected "leaders" while they line their pockets & enrich their donors (who often times are the same entities funding both sides) while we sit around fighting over table scraps and turning a blind eye to the profiteering our officials are engaged in and benefit through our petty bickering.


Until we have a bipartisan accountability and consequences, I doubt we'll ever be able to move past this cycle 'them vs us' cycle and each time the pendulum swings having the retaliation being more intrusive into our lives. We don't need to 'out do' the previous injustices against conservatives that we saw on the last 4 years, what we need is a pressure relief valve to be hit (like the insta-pots if you ever had one of those) nationally and a shift in focus but we need to have a new 'boogeyman' to replace the deeply entrenched D vs R fighting (just human nature).

TL/DR- It's disingenuous to earnestly believe that we can remove tyranny by trying to tyrant harder than what was done before and then act surprised that rather than eliminating tyranny we end up with more than we had before.
 
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Because of the all the superintendents, assistant supt, and many other layers of "overhead" and "admin". None of which actually "educates" kids.
You think a school doesn't need a superintdent? You think they don't need admistration? Lots stuff has to be done to run a school district besides educating kids. Although one of the biggest jobs is ensuring federal compliance to ect fedral money.
 
No. Insurance got like they because the organized crime oligarchy made it so only a few companies could offer insurance.



You don’t seem to understand what a true free market is
Insurance got like it did because they paid what the doctors price is. We have a family freind that is dentist. He had a specail.person come observe his practice to tell him.how yo make more money around 1995. The persons advice was, " raise your prices, the insurance companies will pay whatever you charge."

Same way fedral studunt loans drove up the price of college.
 
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Respectfully-

I think the statement of party lines is a bit less skewed than 49-1 but for the sake of conversation (not argument, conversation) let's say it is. Please permit me to take some liberties in my thought process but even if 98% of DOE is comprised of what we used to call "card carrying" democrats, I can't help but question how that would make it "alright" or any different than what they did to us in 2022 (I haven't forgotten) about it being a justifiable action then because I'd wager the same argument was made in DU that 98% of those refusing the jab as a condition of employment were likely "MAGA" anyways. I'd offer the point that the argument is the same and leads to similar results and all but guarantees nothing will be fixed nationally but rather continues the 'tit for tat' strategy on both sides with each iteration 'upping the ante' with more government control, more loss of inalienable rights and the folks that we should be angry with continue to perpetuate this never-ending battle with not only impunity but also getting exactly what they wanted in the first place, more power.

If we really believe what we've spent the past 4 years saying we wanted about fixing things we have to abandon the strategy of "we'll get 'them' back now but this time even harder". As long as we do that, we're digging into the 'eye for an eye' strategy and you know what they say about leaving everyone blind I'm sure.

What I believe we need to see and what I hope is for us to stop looking at each other as "R's" & "D's" and start looking at each other as Americans and focusing on what unites us rather than separates us. It's going to be an awfully hard and long road too after generational brainwashing (on both sides). But it starts with where we focus our efforts and the rhetoric in which those efforts are conveyed.

Just for one term- I would like to see the focus being on the deeply rooted corruption that exists with both parties of our elected "leaders" while they line their pockets & enrich their donors (who often times are the same entities funding both sides) while we sit around fighting over table scraps and turning a blind eye to the profiteering our officials are engaged in and benefit through our petty bickering.


Until we have a bipartisan accountability and consequences, I doubt we'll ever be able to move past this cycle 'them vs us' cycle and each time the pendulum swings having the retaliation being more intrusive into our lives. We don't need to 'out do' the previous injustices against conservatives that we saw on the last 4 years, what we need is a pressure relief valve to be hit (like the insta-pots if you ever had one of those) nationally and a shift in focus but we need to have a new 'boogeyman' to replace the deeply entrenched D vs R fighting (just human nature).

TL/DR- It's disingenuous to earnestly believe that we can remove tyranny by trying to tyrant harder than what was done before and then act surprised that rather than eliminating tyranny we end up with more than we had before.
That's because you think there can be some kind of rational action from them. It's not about "getting them back", it's about stomping out and shutting down the absolute insanity and mortal dillusion that is now "democrat ideology". Their religion is deadly, and it absolutely has destroyed the country. There is no "coming to an agreement" with that. It must be put down like a rabid dog, and normal American principles restored if we are to have some kind of future for our children.

I am totally on board with both sides being held accountable for corruption but I'm definitely not ok with ANY kind of capitulation to the democrat religion which has caused my country to be overun with invaders, immorality, and deadly beliefs. We tried that in 2016 anyway and we saw exactly what will happen should we try it again. This suicidal empathy religion of modern day liberals must be completely shut down and stomped out.
 
I bet the women to man ratio in teaching is about the same as prostitution.

I bet if more kids had two decent parents a lot less people would be posting the finger at teachers and schools. Your kids mostly learn shit bag stuff from.shit bag kids.

Aside from the few schools where actual grooming is going on. As per the usual in Democrat strong holds in big cities.
 
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That's because you think there can be some kind of rational action from them. It's not about "getting them back", it's about stomping out and shutting down the absolute insanity and mortal dillusion that is now "democrat ideology". Their religion is deadly, and it absolutely has destroyed the country. There is no "coming to an agreement" with that. It must be put down like a rabid dog, and normal American principles restored if we are to have some kind of future for our children.

I am totally on board with both sides being held accountable for corruption but I'm definitely not ok with ANY kind of capitulation to the democrat religion which has caused my country to be overun with invaders, immorality, and deadly beliefs. We tried that in 2016 anyway and we saw exactly what will happen should we try it again. This suicidal empathy religion of modern day liberals must be completely shut down and stomped out.
I think we are seeing a shedding of both parties. The libertarian constitutionalists blame both parties for bringing the country to this point. Cleaning house regardless of party affiliation is the driving force. Meanwhile the Pravda and both parties are pointing fingers at the Democrats and Republicans in an attempt to keep people in either one party or the other. The greatest threat to the scam is people realizing that they have been fooled. Read through the post by lucky duck. It's exactly what he's saying. Party this and party that. Keep the status quo because of bipartisan BS. Nothing about the uni party fucking the country and the judgement time is here
 
This thread reminds me of when I was in my 3rd-4th year of teaching (around 1978) I asked an older teacher what made everyone an expert on teaching. He replied something to the effect that, "All professions pass through this one." I then asked him why critics of education were so emotional. He responded, "Because we work with their most precious possession, their kids".
 
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To that I would say gain more self awareness. I've been in a couple of roles I thought might run to my retirement. Welcome to the world everyone else occupies. Adapt or die. A lot of people in these orgs knew they were skating or that the whole org could go away and no one would notice. Sometimes reality hits hard. Gain skills that make you valuable. Dei manager or teaching LGBTQ concepts probably isn't high on the list. Communist tendencies are also not in fashion.
Hell, regular industry work, even large companies, commonly get crushed and the space filled with another similar company. My employer looks to be going down this road. I am a mercenary tradesman with long, varied, and broad experience. I will be making $$$ for someone.
 
I think we are seeing a shedding of both parties. The libertarian constitutionalists blame both parties for bringing the country to this point. Cleaning house regardless of party affiliation is the driving force. Meanwhile the Pravda and both parties are pointing fingers at the Democrats and Republicans in an attempt to keep people in either one party or the other. The greatest threat to the scam is people realizing that they have been fooled. Read through the post by lucky duck. It's exactly what he's saying. Party this and party that. Keep the status quo because of bipartisan BS. Nothing about the uni party fucking the country and the judgement time is here
You missed the point then completely as that's precisely what I am saying with regards to our focus needs to be on the uni party with a new villain being identified that comes from both sides of the aisle rather than continuing misguided cycle of Party X blaming and going after Party Y and believing that is somehow justified retaliation and fixing anything.

I'm not arguing with you just pointing out that we seem to both be in agreement here but are merely stating concurrence using different words.
 
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I think we are seeing a shedding of both parties. The libertarian constitutionalists blame both parties for bringing the country to this point. Cleaning house regardless of party affiliation is the driving force. Meanwhile the Pravda and both parties are pointing fingers at the Democrats and Republicans in an attempt to keep people in either one party or the other. The greatest threat to the scam is people realizing that they have been fooled. Read through the post by lucky duck. It's exactly what he's saying. Party this and party that. Keep the status quo because of bipartisan BS. Nothing about the uni party fucking the country and the judgement time is here
Yeah I agree with are seeing that happen. The fact that the pubs are generally "better and less insane" than the dems is what had held us hostage and enabled the same people to stay in power doing the same crap. The dem garbage is so crazy and such a huge threat, we ignore the sorry excuse for a party the pubs are and their role is getting us here but it's clear to see. It does make it difficult when consequences of losing elections to democrats are so severe though. It's easy to get behind republicans because they aren't trying to turn my boy into a girl, or take my guns away instantly, even though we know it's only the differencein driving off a cliff at 100mph vs driving off a cliff at 10mph in reality.

It takes so much money to win and overcome media ect... you have to have a major party behind you, which furthers the system. The system which has lead us here. Getting corruption out and just reducing the overall size will make it much better and easier for good candidates to win, without the parties having so much control, or at least less controll.
 
It’s 23-24k per public student. Anyone that is able sends their kids to private schools. A fair a one are half that
Yeah we pay about 10k/ year per kid for private Christian school. It's insane what we "pay" per student for terrible results in probably half the country DOE has been a total faliure.
 
Yeah we pay about 10k/ year per kid for private Christian school. It's insane what we "pay" per student for terrible results in probably half the country DOE has been a total faliure.
If your property taxes have a portion that goes to public school you pay more than that. That’s the infuriating part of this whole scam. And it is a scam.
 
If your property taxes have a portion that goes to public school you pay more than that. That’s the infuriating part of this whole scam. And it is a scam.
That's right. I pay the feds to pay for the massive amigos, and I pay the locals for the school again, that my child doesn't go to, because of the amigos. It's sad and infuriating
 
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You missed the point then completely as that's precisely what I am saying with regards to our focus needs to be on the uni party with a new villain being identified that comes from both sides of the aisle rather than continuing misguided cycle of Party X blaming and going after Party Y and believing that is somehow justified retaliation and fixing anything.

I'm not arguing with you just pointing out that we seem to both be in agreement here but are merely stating concurrence using different words.
Graham and McConnell make that argument real