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Desert Tactical Arms SRS in Australia!

#2
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Those prices in Au or USD? Might want to make that pretty clear because someone might take advantage of that...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Priest</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you seen the prices?? Typical sole agent bullshit down here</div></div>

When you factor in the cost of exporting the rifle, paying freight, importing the rifle, and then normal dealer's markup, that's really not all that surprising, particularly for such a low-volume item.
 
#10
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Haha thats it!

is no where near as bad as the $8900 i paid for my barrett 98B.

funny though how when our dollar value goes up the prices stay the same!

cheers,

anthony
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Flem100</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, bloody exy but bloody nice. What are peoples thoughts on these, have they had enough time in the market to iron out any issues? </div></div>

A+ in my book. Really looking forward to the HTI and Covert that are on there way to the market. By no means are these replacements for the SRS as that is one of the sweetest rigs I own just eager to show off the HTI and Covert during all my international travels.
 
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Hmmmmm I have to say that I am leaning this way after still not getting my head around the 98b price.

Look like my tax check this year has just been spent! All I need is for Mr Rudd to give me some more tax offsets so I have some coin for the glass...
 
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Hello All,

Just a short introduction and a bit of information regarding this.

I represent the company (Interdiction Logistics) that is bringing in Desert Tactical Arms products to the Australian market.

We have just cleared a shipment and rifles are being sent out to the dealer network and on to customers.

Another order is scheduled for late July arrival.

As I am sure you can appreciate, it was vital for us to have the SRS fully vetted by all of the relevant authorities before mass advertising took place.. which would of lead to promises being made that may not of been kept.

I take note of comments above regarding the price structure (esp Priest's) and welcome anyone to sit and do the math regarding the prices. Taking in to account +10%GST straight up. (& Our dollar has shed 6 cents in the last week)

I myself purchased a 98Bravo at the set price point and there are many other fine rigs that are priced higher such as Strifer mentions, with his AMP DSR-1 or the Unique Alpine.

The SRS has to also compete with the new Savage tactical rifle and the Armalite bolt gun. Both of which are lower priced offerings.

What all of this illustrates is that although WE ARE the exclusive distributor for DTA products in AUS, price gouging or fat cat tactics is simply not competitive when weighed against selling volume and getting the product out there.

We want to see this product available for the Australian market at a competitive price. I am sure that if we don't achieve this goal, another importer/wholesaler will get DTA's business due to the fact that we haven't preformed or are unable to justify/compete with the pricing put forward.

Given all of that.......We are excited to hear back from those who were lucky enough to get their order filled in the latest shipment.

You can also expect to see more advertising and more dealers offering the SRS and other DTA products for sale.

Demo rifles will be sent around the dealer network so you can experience what the SRS feels like and get a better idea on what you may or may not wish to have.

Restricted composites will also be available for Governmental applications and evaluation. It is planned, that these will be on display at this year's Land Warfare Conferance in October.

Thanks for reading.

-Aaron
Interdiction Logistics Pty Ltd
"Improve your resolve"
 
#16
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Hi Gents,

I would be really interested in hearing back from any of you lads who have bought a DTA SRS, have you been pleased with your purchase? Do you feel it was worth the price?

I'm seriously looking at one, I have the money but its taken a lot of work and I don't want to buy the wrong thing at this stage...
I spoke to a bloke at Cleaver Firearms today, he said the ones they had in stock do not have the monopod in the butt plate (so presumably they are an older version/specification?)

I also read that DTA are planning a higher capacity magazine for the SRS, any word on whether this will be 'plug-and-play' with the currently avaliable chassis? (from what I understand, if you wanted to get the new monopod on an already purchased SRS you had to send the whole chassis back and pay for the parts, fitting and shipping...)

If anyone around Sydney or the Hunter Valley area has one and is going to be at a range any time soon then please let me know as I would dearly like to see in reality prior to shelling out the cash...any idea who the NSW dealer/distributors are?

Did anyone import privately, or did you purchase here in Aus?

Cheers,Hi Gents,

I would be really interested in hearing back from any of you lads who have bought a DTA SRS, have you been pleased with your purchase? Do you feel it was worth the price?

I'm seriously looking at one, I have the money but its taken a lot of work and I don't want to buy the wrong thing at this stage...
I spoke to a bloke at Cleaver Firearms today, he said the ones they had in stock do not have the monopod in the butt plate (so presumably they are an older version/specification?)

I also read that DTA are planning a higher capacity magazine for the SRS, any word on whether this will be 'plug-and-play' with the currently avaliable chassis? (from what I understand, if you wanted to get the new monopod on an already purchased SRS you had to send the whole chassis back and pay for the parts, fitting and shipping...)

If anyone around Sydney or the Hunter Valley area has one and is going to be at a range any time soon then please let me know as I would dearly like to see one in reality prior to shelling out the cash...any idea who the NSW dealer/distributors are?

Did anyone import privately, or did you purchase here in Aus?

Cheers,
 
#18
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Hello no style I recently ordered mine from a different source at a lower price they order there's in I will be receiving mine after Christmas with a monopod would be more then happy to show it too you and let you shoot it when I get it..
 
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It's typical bs we have too deal with in this country the dealers have too make there profit margins maaaasssive and our government does there part feeding lies through the media and using it too tighten up gun laws hence we pay extreme prices makes me wish I live in the usa ...
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: No Style</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Gents,

I would be really interested in hearing back from any of you lads who have bought a DTA SRS, have you been pleased with your purchase? Do you feel it was worth the price?</div></div>
I have to make it clear that I'm not from/in Australia. But the following should answer your non-AUS-specific questions.

First - I bought a DTA SRS and am <span style="text-decoration: underline">very</span> pleased with this purchase.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm seriously looking at one, I have the money but its taken a lot of work and I don't want to buy the wrong thing at this stage...</div></div>
If you (a) love bullpups or at least are indifferent to them (and can appreciate greater mobility/portability and ergonomics of bullpups), and/or (b) want to use more than one caliber (e.g. the "ubiquitous 308" for daily practice and "long-reaching 338" for the fun of it
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) - then DTA SRS should appeal to you. It's fairly easy (and not <span style="text-decoration: underline">that</span> expensive) to add more calibers to SRS, and you can "grow" your caliber family. Caliber change in the field is lightning-quick.

If you absolutely positively hate bullpups (it wouldn't make sense to me, but I know such people exist
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), or if you intend to stick with one caliber for the foreseeable future - then perhaps a less expensive single-caliber rifle such as AE would be a better/cost-efficient choice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I spoke to a bloke at Cleaver Firearms today, he said the ones they had in stock do not have the monopod in the butt plate (so presumably they are an older version/specification?)..... (from what I understand, if you wanted to get the new monopod on an already purchased SRS you had to send the whole chassis back and pay for the parts, fitting and shipping...)</div></div>
As I understand, monopod is an <span style="text-decoration: underline">option</span> - you don't automatically get it unless you order your rifle with it (like I did), or send the rifle back to the factory and pay for parts, fitting and shipping.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also read that DTA are planning a higher capacity magazine for the SRS, any word on whether this will be 'plug-and-play' with the currently avaliable chassis?</div></div>
From what I heard, the new magazine shall be 'plug-and-play' with the current chassis (wouldn't make sense any other way).

Hope this helps - and take a look at this DTA SRS thread. It covers a lot of SRS questions.
 
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I'm currently north of Sydney in Elvina Bay but my SRS is back in California. They are expensive now compared to when they were first available, however I still feel they are worth the money, especially if you intend to use the multi-cal option. It really is like having multiple custom rifles without buying a new scope for each. The accuracy is fantastic, the ergonomics and balance are outstanding, the trigger quality is VERY impressive (especially for a bullpup) and the modularity makes it a great platform overall.

I have the first gen model without monopod and while I've heard the monopod is outstanding, I've never had trouble without it. I just use the old fashioned beanbag for rear support.

Buying one in Oz would be an investment - like a Yank getting a Landy 110 - something you buy with the intent of customizing and hanging on to for many years to come.
 
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Thanks for the offer gamedogs, I appreciate it mate. I've contacted DTA Australia and I'm going to see if they have any demo ones floating around in NSW to see if I can find one in the meantime. Any chance you could PM with contact details for the dealer/distributor that you have gone through to get your rifle?

It's definitely going to hurt in some ways to purchase, but working for money isn't much fun so I may as well enjoy spending it
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Looks like I'm going to pursue this further though I'm still tempted by the Blaser R93 Tac 2 (just hate the proprietary barrel thing). Personally, I really like the compact nature and balance of bullpup designs, I don't understand the irrational hatred people have for them. From an engineering standpoint its a superior layout, seems to me that old habits just die hard with some people (as do training scars I suppose). I was lucky in that the first shooting I did was with the Steyr F88 (AUG) platform so I find the bullpups to be fairly intuitive.

One further question, I don't quite understand how the internal lockup occurs in these rifles so this might be a stupid question; but:

Does the 'barrel extension' actually get worn at all during firing; or could you essentially just keep re-barreling using the same barrel extension? (Assuming your happy to have only one working barrel at any given time)

I'm guessing that the round is chambered directly into the barrel and the bolt travels through the extension, locking directly into barrel...so in essence the barrel extension serves simply as an anchoring point and is not integral to lockup like a conventional receiver..is that correct?

Going to chase up some pricing tomorrow and find out about custom barreling options for the DTA in Australia.
 
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Yup, the barrel extension just hooks the barrel up to the chassis, so as long as you have an extension to mate to a barrel with the proper thread specs you should be good to go. Just to make sure, drop DTA an email and they should be able to tell you everything you need to know about doing a custom barrel for the SRS. DTA barrels are great and there are quite a few variations available, but there are plenty of SRS owners who've gone the custom route, either by buying the extension and having a smith install a custom barrel or through one of the shops that make DTA approved barrel/bolt conversions. This is how you get an SRS in 7WSM, 6.5 Creedmoor

Unlike you, Style, I was turned off of bullpups in my Army years, primarily on the assault rifle side because the manual of arms was so convoluted to me. For precision rifles the only thing I didn't like were the triggers. The mechanisms to connect the trigger to firing assembly always seemed clunky at best.

For me that all changed with the SRS. The trigger was hands down the biggest surprise for me. Adjustable, smooth and predictable.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was lucky in that the first shooting I did was with the Steyr F88 (AUG) platform so I find the bullpups to be fairly intuitive.</div></div>
IMHO if you liked Steyr AUG you'd love SRS. I love both.
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Is there any great difference between an SRS and a Covert apart from essentially having the barrel and rails shortened, are they otherwise identical? (Can you convert one to the other?)
 
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Fredo or SR90 can confirm this, but I'm pretty sure they are interchangeable. Now one thing I can tell you about the full length SRS is it's nice being able to put the bipod all they way forward towards the end of the barrel. On the Covert you wouldn't be able to get it out as far. However, this is more of an issue with traditional rifles because of the different Center of Gravity. For the Covert it may be just as stable.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fredo or SR90 can confirm this, but I'm pretty sure they are interchangeable. Now one thing I can tell you about the full length SRS is it's nice being able to put the bipod all they way forward towards the end of the barrel. On the Covert you wouldn't be able to get it out as far. However, this is more of an issue with traditional rifles because of the different Center of Gravity. For the Covert it may be just as stable. </div></div>


Hmmm I've shot with it all the way forward and about 4-5 inches away from the trigger guard. I never really noticed a difference at all.
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gamedogs4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's typical bs we have too deal with in this country the dealers have too make there profit margins maaaasssive and our government does there part feeding lies through the media and using it too tighten up gun laws hence we pay extreme prices makes me wish I live in the usa ... </div></div>

Mate we get ripped off something shocking in this country... its bloody rediculous

I cant believe TRG's sell for $7k over here! Thats insane, guys in the states could buy 3 TRG rifles for what we pay for 1.

It makes me question why we even bother buying off the shelf items... May as well just get a smith to build you a tack driving custom and It will probably shoot better than any off the shelf tac rifle.

I know how much Beretta Australia pay for rifles from sako... and let me tell you, the mark up is phenomenal on the price tag.
 
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Somehow that makes me thankful that I'm going to be working in NZ instead of Sydney after all
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#35
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There must be a way around this like doing group buys or something.. I used too wanna keep local guys goin but theye can get f**ked I would rather send ny money to the states then help out these rip off merchants we get treated like crappy for being gun owners. And our own gun shops mage it so expensive we can't afford it bring the NRA to australia !
 
#37
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what do you reckon gamedog, i get the blaser out you get the DTA out and give no style a bit of a run on both. could be a fun day out if only there was a range in Sydney that would allow larger than 8mm! we not only get ripped off here the beauracracy is INSANE!!!
 
#38
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Get a full custom rifle built for that price.... Surgeon action, custom barrel, your stock choice, your chambering choice, even your chamber spec's....

Dont get me started on prices in Australia....
 
#39
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ackley Improved</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Get a full custom rifle built for that price....</div></div>
And you can do that for how many calibers? How many extra bipods, scopes, cases, etc. will you need? (Assuming you want to use more than one caliber, otherwise something like AW should be good enough.
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)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get me started on prices in Australia....</div></div>
OK, we won't!
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#40
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The dta srs is the only rifle that is worth the insane australian prices for me but other then that I would of just built a custom maybe one day ill move to the states and be able to buy a descent rifle without a 200% price mark up
 
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Haha, DTA and R93 shoot out sounds like the goods!

Its proving a hard decision between the two, but I'm leaning towards the DTA. It's a bit cheaper and it appears that it will be relatively straight forward to get custom barrels and chamberings, as DTA seem to be happy to sell the barrel extensions and provide the relevant details, which I think is a very good thing. That is a real bummer with Tac 2, no custom barrels or chamberings as far as I know, your only options are factory offerings (and prices)...

I'm talking to DTA Australia's distributors (Interdiction Logistics) who have been very frank and helpful, and from what I can see (I haven't completely nailed a price down yet) it will be cheaper or at least the same price as importing the same thing privately from the US (even with the dollar at parity). The 'apparent price' (USD corrected for exchange rate) goes up dramatically due to coping 10% GST and a 5% 'Customs Value' import duty (which is 5% of items sale price in AUD + shipping + insurance + export license); and then there is the shipping, export license and insurance costs; and the hassle of dealing with customs etc...

I have to agree, there are definitely some attractions to living in the USA though!

The lack of 'suitable' ranges around Sydney is just infuriating, complete bureaucracy as you say. As optimistic as it is, I hope these guys get somewhere with their long range competition and some of their other initiatives:

http://www.shooting.com.au/forum/index.p...6279#entry16279
 
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Ha ha pier and I would be happy to get a range day happening ( just got to wait for my dta to get here after Christmas then ill have to tactical get my nf scope off pier lol I thinkcould b hard I think he likes it) ;p is there any ranges left that haven't banned the .338 due to there girlish fears of anything more then 8mm ... I don't think you would be disappointed with the dta in any aspect unless your a left no style
 
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Hi Mate,

I hope your luck pans out better than mine did, the bastards never had one there, seems like they just wanted to try and sell me a SAKO or an AI!
 
#48
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mine has arrived if you wanna take a look at it its at safari firearms at bexley its in the back but im sure they will let you look at it im just waiting for my permit of purchase to go through.. ai sakos are great but after holding that dta i would never spend my money on a ai or a sako.. it is an ergonomic master peice a buitifully crafted weapon cant wait to get it home if you ever wanna handle one or if you need help ordering one ill be happy to help you out i too know the pain of walking into a gun shop and hearing some one preach there anti dta bull sh#t every one tried to talk me out of it with there limited knowledge and biased opinions dont listen to the crap mate there a buitifull lil rig i cant put any fault to them. besides what would the idiots at the gunshops here know ive walked in to a couple and asked them what moa a blaser tac two would shoot the guy asked me what the hell moa is lmao..
 
#50
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Gamedogs, is it still likely to be in store on Friday?

If it is I'll try and make some arrangements to escape work for the day and get down to Syd for a look!

Which accessories did you opt for and which bipod?

Mate I'm sure it'll be an awesome rig, hope you shoot the hell out of it!
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