Did Steiner just quietly build the MPO we have all been asking for? H6xi

[white_rushin]

Agreed, awesome write-up @Ape_Factory. I can’t wait to get it in next week.

I think the main question I have is not so much is the main center of the reticle usable at 2x (I know it’s not) but moreso, do the lines 3/6/9 lines extend and have enough thickness to act as a solid duplex / bracketing at min power. Then using illumination when needed in complex environments.

Also, forward of the elevation turret, how difficult is it going to be for most folks to mount a piggyback optic. It certainly seems finicky depending on the mount.

Is there anything you wish they had done differently? Or maybe, what would a company like NF / PA / Vortex have to do in order to gain a substantial advantage over this

 

[gearguywb]

I certainly could have missed it in my Oxy induced fog (recent surgery), but I did not see anywhere that gave the actual distances/dimensions for the sub tension lines on the 2-12 and 3-18.

The 2-12 seems like it would make a heck of a good hunting scope given a robust platform and light weight....

 

[jbuck88]

Lots of us were hoping it would make a nice crossover hunting scope. Instead they put a 100mph reticle in it that's too fine to use on the bottom end. Not sure what the substentions are on the tree. You get 20 mils of hold offs on the horizontal stadia though (10mils each side)

 

[Ape_Factory]

Had an LTC class today so no real time behind scope, maybe tomorrow. I need to see if the center of the reticle, along with the three thick stadia(?) is enough to provide a good point of aim. Like if you were hunting pigs at 50-100 yards with thermal clip on. Could you realistically take an ethical shot. I almost never spend time at the wide end of any of my scopes unless its the 1-8 and its run and gun sort of stuff. Dual reticle is the way to go but March scopes are pricey.

If I have time today I’ll try to get more comparison shots, weights and measurements.

 

[Ape_Factory]

I certainly could have missed it in my Oxy induced fog (recent surgery), but I did not see anywhere that gave the actual distances/dimensions for the sub tension lines on the 2-12 and 3-18.

The 2-12 seems like it would make a heck of a good hunting scope given a robust platform and light weight....

I’ll pull the manual and see if it has that info.

 

[Earnhardt]

I certainly could have missed it in my Oxy induced fog (recent surgery), but I did not see anywhere that gave the actual distances/dimensions for the sub tension lines on the 2-12 and 3-18.

The 2-12 seems like it would make a heck of a good hunting scope given a robust platform and light weight....

I was incorrect… it looks like the center reticle is .07” on the H6xi MOA models

This pic is from the Steiner website

 

[Burdy]

Lots of us were hoping it would make a nice crossover hunting scope. Instead they put a 100mph reticle in it that's too fine to use on the bottom end. Not sure what the substentions are on the tree. You get 20 mils of hold offs on the horizontal stadia though (10mils each side)

I'll be honest, I've hunted with nothing but FFP scopes on longer range capable guns for as long as I can remember. But recently I "built" a 7 PRC for my first hunt out west. I tried several options and then had a bit of an epiphany: I'll always be dialing. So I decided to give SFP a shot in the NX8 2.5-20 to maximize my low mag FOV and have a nice solid reticle (MIL-C F2) at all magnification levels. I have been shocked by how much I like this setup. A SFP option in this Steiner would be the ticket if hunting was the use case.

 

[Ape_Factory]

I quickly ran home and pulled out both scopes to look at them again at 2x and 3x respectively. No problem using the 3-18 at base mag with a simple cross hair reticle with no illumination. Same with the 2-12 although it's harder to see. If you turn on illumination, it's easily visible without question. I could see it against an overcast sky as well as with trees/brush as background.

Comparing it to the Athlon, I don't see the Athlon as having any advantage other than there's a larger circle of death surrounding the center dot. The reticle lines are just as "thin" as the Steiner so it's not any easier to see at base magnification of 2X. I could use either without question. Is the March dual reticle superior? Of course.

 

[Twotoomany]

What is the Coupon Code to get an extra 10% off?

Thanks

10off2324 for 10% off when >$75 spent.

 

[gearguywb]

10off2324 for 10% off when >$75 spent.

From where?

 

[Twotoomany]

From where?

see post #443

 

[gearguywb]

I have only used FFP scopes on hunting rigs, particularly out west.

I typically dial for elevation, but it would be nice to know what the vertical lines represent so that if you needed to make a faster shot you could use them to hold.

 

[gearguywb]

Well sh!!!. "You are not eligible for this promotion"