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Wow, now that is another example of the Xmas giving spirit, kudos!That day is today. PM me your address, phone number, and email addy... and a CPS will arrive. Merry Christmas!
3 so far in this thread... and we are just getting warmed up folks. Closer we get to Christmas, the more the holy spirit takes hold of me!Wow, now that is another example of the Xmas giving spirit, kudos!
3 so far in this thread... and we are just getting warmed up folks. Closer we get to Christmas, the more the holy spirit takes hold of me!
Very fortunate people! Hope they continue it on and pay it forward. What you do around these times is pretty awesome. Not many in your position would do that. Happy holidays!3 so far in this thread... and we are just getting warmed up folks. Closer we get to Christmas, the more the holy spirit takes hold of me!
Every dollar you spent on it, goes toward a CPS that will be given away.Do not know if contributing to the CPS Santa Fund gets you in a random drawing or not
Have not been able to watch the whole video but I have watched some. If I understood correctly neither of you are a fan of pocket uniformers because they actually damage the pocket. So my question is do you use a pocket cleaner or just leave them be. I myself have been wondering if these tools actually hasten pocket loosening……Thanks!
Yup I like to clean the pockets.Have not been able to watch the whole video but I have watched some. If I understood correctly neither of you are a fan of pocket uniformers because they actually damage the pocket. So my question is do you use a pocket cleaner or just leave them be. I myself have been wondering if these tools actually hasten pocket loosening……Thanks!
It can be ordered via phone for the moment. Very limited supply.When will your seat measuring tool be available? I don't see it on the website. If you buy the seater you might as well double up and get the measurement tool too.
Agreed, i know sometimes peoples personalities don’t jive. I think that’s it more then anything. They have a bone to pick so his product/him gets attacked. I don’t own one either. Would love to and hopefully will some day. It’s funny how people rip on it for being 600 bucks but back the auto trickler, 419 press, giraud or Henderson trimmer and like 5k + rifles. Good quality costs $. Most of the time is worth it. Whether or not you see eye to eye with “orkan” you should respect his knowledge and effort to help others. I sure do.I really don't understand why some want to start some shit with a guy who posts info and contributes here, supports this place, and also makes what is widely considered the best priming tool available??? It just blows my mind.
I don't have one, but I probably will get one just so my son can load with me, and his younger brother soon too. (5 yrs old and 11 months). There isn't another primer out there where that's a possibility. I don't know if it helps accuracy or not, but with all the trouble we all go to in order to get the most out of our rounds, this doesn't seem like it's out of line.
I enjoyed the video and I still have a lot to learn, so videos like that are helpful for me and I'm sure many others. Even if you think it's complete bs , why would you shit in this thread???? Dude seems like a really nice guy and his machine obviously works, so what's the problem? It's embarrassing to see this.
I like your angle. Maybe pay with my hsa cardYea a hand primer is good for about 100 rounds them my hands swell, 2-300 rnds of sorted range brass is a challenge.
Wonder if I could get my doctor to write a prescription for a quality of life support device?
You cant adjust your primer seating debth with your system. By hand priming or on your press. ..004 to .005 is the Goldie locks zone. One of the many methods to obtaining the lowest standard deviation . Only bolt beaters neck size. Show up at the berger nations you can pick them out on the line.So, after R&D and other associated costs how many units do you need to sell before you start making a profit.
I had to quit watching at if Lapua doesn't make the brass don't shoot it. Same guy, "DON'T NECK SIZE!'.
This $10 part lasted me 10,000 times 22-250 to .300 H&H. Just saying.
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if you seat your primer EXACTLY to same seating depth, this means that you measure EVERY primer height?
Why? You wouldn't believe me anyway. lol Show me YOUR test! lol
Go look on youtube. Lots of others posted tests. Maybe you'll believe them?
Maybe you'll believe Jason Wolf?
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there are also ppl who win and they dont anneal their brass. more and more ppl dont neck turn anymore.
did you know that? how can you explain that?
you cant, because you are totaly brainwashed and everybody tell you that you need those fancy machines to even start to reload...![]()
Haaaa there’s been so many tools that come out that these YouTube ppl push and then get away from. Just because they get free stuff they’ll give ir a good review. Then you won’t see them using it a few months later.if your source of info is YouTube your a complete fool.
there are also ppl who win and they dont anneal their brass. more and more ppl dont neck turn anymore.
did you know that? how can you explain that?
you cant, because you are totaly brainwashed and everybody tell you that you need those fancy machines to even start to reload...![]()
We'll be getting them up on the website this week hopefully. You can call an order in and we'll get your order in the hopper.
Let me know what you find out. I have psoriatic arthritis and will need to move to a CPS in 2023 most likely. Thankfully, the product exists as an option.Yea a hand primer is good for about 100 rounds them my hands swell, 2-300 rnds of sorted range brass is a challenge.
Wonder if I could get my doctor to write a prescription for a quality of life support device?
What are a couple of the preferred pocket reamers?
Respectfully, I would not be so sure.with them being Italian and out of production, I can't imagine there would be any issues doing it.
You are no doubt right. I just hope that somebody could bring the Pal back. I literally keep my spare motor in a safe in case the original one finally gives out. I have no clue as to why every other primer filler sucks.Respectfully, I would not be so sure.
Just because something is out of production doesn't mean IP rights are abandoned.
No, they suck. They are marginal with large primers and shitty with small primers. It's not a comment on Orkan, DAA is just really hit or miss with their gear. And if yours is good an my two suck, it just shows that QC on them is garbage. Bring back PAL.The Prima Fill and primer tubes are perfect additions to the CPS. Maybe @orkan can come up with a package deal.
I guess I don't know any better. Hands down its been better than filling tubes one primer at a time. I have not had any inverted primers. The single direction ridges to flip the primers is not as effective as radial as on a Dillon primer flip tray. It does take a little technique (very little) to keep them from bunching up. At a fraction of the cost of a Dillon RF100. The only other option I've seen is Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime.No, they suck. They are marginal with large primers and shitty with small primers. It's not a comment on Orkan, DAA is just really hit or miss with their gear. And if yours is good an my two suck, it just shows that QC on them is garbage. Bring back PAL.
If he's "skeptical"... why has he been doing exactly what I described since he and I first talked years ago? That doesn't seem like skeptical behavior.Very good video. Erik seems a little skeptical but you did a great job explaining it and it looks like the best tool on the market. I need to get my hands on one at some point. Manual labor and hand priming is for the birds... or for all the carpal tunnel...
We have sold hundreds of them... and have only had one come back for a faulty motor, which DAA immediately replaced, no questions asked. I've not heard a negative report from anyone except that one with the dead-on-arrival motor, and another one with a broken motor mount. Two out of hundreds, is a pretty good track record. The only product we sell that carries a better track record, is the CPS itself!They are marginal with large primers and shitty with small primers. It's not a comment on Orkan, DAA is just really hit or miss with their gear. And if yours is good an my two suck, it just shows that QC on them is garbage.
Yes, you can either count clicks on the CPS, or you can run it out shallow and sneak back in on it using the linear measurement with our PrimeWhere gauge.Once you choose your depth for a load, is it easy to swap from one load to another? I'm guessing there is a micrometer?
I use mandrels on specific occasions. Most often, virgin brass. Otherwise, I use custom honed full length sizers with a forster-style high expander that enters the bottom of the neck on the reverse press stroke before the top of the neck leaves the neck portion of the die.Also, are you using a mandrel? Do most people lube when they use carbide? I haven't been...
Thanks! ...but we didn't even really get into it. That was as high level of a flyby as I could come up with so the program didn't run for 8hrs. lolI watched the video today and I'm impressed with the amount of knowledge you have on primers and the amount of testing, measuring and engineering that goes into priming a case.
Haha... YOU thought. PM me your name, address, phone number, and email address and the worlds best priming tool with our new billet aluminum 5" knob will arrive. Merry Christmas!Let me know what you find out. I have psoriatic arthritis and will need to move to a CPS in 2023 most likely.
Nope! I run Lapua and Alpha OCD cases almost exclusively these days... and those pockets don't need to be touched. I will gently glide a dull uniforming tool in there in between firings to "clean" them... but I don't take any brass.@orkan do you prep/uniform the primer pockets on new brass before you seat your first primer?
I have. A reduced charge will usually result in the pocket moving less. However, it will move more across multiple firings then. I'd much rather it move where its going to move, and then not move much. So on normal loads, the pocket will move quite a bit during the 1st to 3rd firing... but after that it tends to stabilize quite a bit, if the brass is good. If it's bad, (soft case heads) then pockets will change quite a bit across the life of the brass. That's why Alpha's new OCD is so amazing. The most stable cases I've ever worked with. That's really the key: To run quality brass, which moves predictably and flows uniformly. A couple companies have thought it through... others clearly have not.did you ever do a test on the primer pockets that had a reduced charge of powder for the first firing vs. a full charge?
OK, I will trust you. Going to place my order now from you, as I know you'll make it right if it is bad. Mine were among the first dozen or so sold, so maybe a beta issue.If he's "skeptical"... why has he been doing exactly what I described since he and I first talked years ago? That doesn't seem like skeptical behavior.It also doesn't make much sense why he'd have me on to share it with his audience, if he didn't agree.
We have sold hundreds of them... and have only had one come back for a faulty motor, which DAA immediately replaced, no questions asked. I've not heard a negative report from anyone except that one with the dead-on-arrival motor, and another one with a broken motor mount. Two out of hundreds, is a pretty good track record. The only product we sell that carries a better track record, is the CPS itself!We have sold thousands of the DAA/Primal Rights primer tubes they custom make for us, and have not had one single issue to date. Sorry you've had such bad luck, but I think you just got super unlucky! The PrimaFill is by far our most popular accessory to the CPS, and rightfully so. I absolutely love using mine.
Oh, and they did change the design a couple times, to my knowledge. The easiest way to identify the new ones is the circular pattern of the ridges in the tray. The older ones have straight lines.
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Yes, you can either count clicks on the CPS, or you can run it out shallow and sneak back in on it using the linear measurement with our PrimeWhere gauge.
I use mandrels on specific occasions. Most often, virgin brass. Otherwise, I use custom honed full length sizers with a forster-style high expander that enters the bottom of the neck on the reverse press stroke before the top of the neck leaves the neck portion of the die.
Thanks! ...but we didn't even really get into it. That was as high level of a flyby as I could come up with so the program didn't run for 8hrs. lol
Haha... YOU thought. PM me your name, address, phone number, and email address and the worlds best priming tool with our new billet aluminum 5" knob will arrive. Merry Christmas!
OK, I will trust you. Going to place my order now from you, as I know you'll make it right if it is bad. Mine were among the first dozen or so sold, so maybe a beta issue.