Rifle Scopes Differences Steiner M5xi vs Steiner Military 5-25x?

[Senor_Barney]

Can the informed please outlined differences between these two scopes? One labeled "Military" and the other labeled "M5Xi".

Mainly, when did this change occur?

What distinguishes a Steiner "Military" from Steiner "M5xi"? Is it generation, country of origin, or nothing? Thinking it must be significant enough to rebrand on the eye piece.

Please try not to muck it up with internet rumor mill guff or "guy at the range told me" conjecture. Just real facts...please....

 

[Black max]

Same scopes. I've had many of them over the years, the 3-15 and the 5-25. All mine have said Military on them. Maybe they are just putting the M on the new ones?

 

[Senor_Barney]

When over the years did they start doing that.... kinda helps to date these scores. If they switched to M5xi in 2020 and you see one with Military...then the Military score could potentially be just 2 years old or it could be 10 years old.

I'm trying to under stand that better as well.

 

[Birddog6424]

Slight difference in construction.

Nightforce did the same thing with the military versus civilian optics.

 

[Senor_Barney]

Digging through YouTube, the oldest video I could find with M5Xi on the eyepiece and not Military was "4 years ago".



It's 2021, meaning any Steiner with "Military" is pre-2017 at a minimum...but could be 2012. That's an ollllld scope with lots of technology advancements since then.



Not sure if this also applies to the 5-25x as the video is for a 3-15x

The fact I haven't seen Hide members already post about this in the forum searches I've conducted for 5 straight hours last night (vs. How many know Gen 1-3 of Kahles K624i) kinda speaks to how little adoption it must of gotten.

 

[ma smith]

there's definitely people here who can walk you thru diffeences....use the search function if you are impatient

 

[Senor_Barney]

there's definitely people here who can walk you thru diffeences....use the search function if you are impatient

Updared previous message to clarify:

...The fact I haven't seen Hide members already post about this in the forum searches I've conducted for 5 straight hours last night...

 

[ma smith]

IIRC @koshkin has writeups on the various gen steiners that talk about the differneces (pre/post 'military'), you can google ilya's optic reviews seperately from SH via google if you are in that much of hurry.

otherwise, maybe give it 24 hours

 

[Senor_Barney]

Yuuup. Exhausted that outlet as well. Lots of insights to be gleemed from an article back in Sept 2016.

Though, here he referenced MX5i (when the scope was still labeled Military 5-25x) and "old M/Military" on a number of occasions. Super easy to get confused with the nomenclature. Also this most was for the mid-range scopes in the 3-15x...

Unclear whether the scope he was referring to as "old Military" was the really old one like 14x-ish or somethung else entirely.

Really hope tagging him helps clarify.

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[kl3309]

Latest could have changed the "Military" to "M5Xi" on the scopes is around 2018-2019 when the M7Xi and M8Xi expanded the product line and needed to differentiate between models within the Military line-up. Probably some incremental product improvement but M5Xis shouldn't be radically different throughout the product life cycle.

 

[whatsupdoc]

Bought a new Steiner 5x25 M5Xi marked scope March 2017 so the change was before that.

 

[Senor_Barney]

Bought a new Steiner 5x25 M5Xi marked scope March 2017 so the change was before that.

Super helpful

 

[koshkin]

Military to M5Xi was mostly a marketing change.

Original Military scopes with 4x erectors (4-16x and 3-12x) were assembled in Colorado, but once they switched over to the 5x erector (i.e. 3-15x50 and 5-25x56), the entire assembly process was in Germany. The change in the name happened in 2016, I think.

ILya

 

[Schaaf]

Military to M5Xi was mostly a marketing change.

Original Military scopes with 4x erectors (4-16x and 3-12x) were assembled in Colorado, but once they switched over to the 5x erector (i.e. 3-15x50 and 5-25x56), the entire assembly process was in Germany. The change in the name happened in 2016, I think.

ILya

If I remember right, I had a 3-15 that was labeled on the scope as Military but the box was M5Xi