Do DOPE cards and range logs serve the same purpose? And do I need them if I use weatherflow or kestrels with AB?

what happens when you lose your kestrel/phone or batteries die?

are they necessary anymore? no. but i always keep a card for standard DA in my bag, because you never know
 
Stuff on laminated sheets will work in the cold and rain. They’ll work after you bang them off something or get stepped on. And they can work faster than scrolling through a digital device.

The electronics can certainly be more accurate and account for more varied factors. But sometimes there’s just no replacement for indelible ink on waterproof paper.

Use the kestrel and ballistic app but write down what it reflected. Under a time crunch I think it’s easier to look at a dope chart.
 
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ok that makes sense, because i was wondering if you were supposed to do your own calculations on the side or something in addition to the gadget, but recording results and corrections to what the gadget says makes a lot more sense.
 
Yes........No......and Yes!!!!!

Yes they hold much of the same information....... The Dope card is quick reference fast, simple, easy. The Range Log should be your detailed information gathered during practice, you use it to make the Dope Card for when you need it fast.

No they do not serve the same purpose........ see above!

And Yes you need hard copies of everything....... Yes, electronics fail, batteries fail, and sometimes you just don't have the time. Now that being said only you know what kind of shooting you do. If your only shooting for you off a bench at your range when you want to, then no you don't need a dope card per say. The electronic will do all you need, I would still have the Range log to record hits, misses, and info for the solvers, you'll need it someday trust me. If your a hunter then the Dope card is a must. When dinner presents itself at 254 yards broadside and gives you the wink you don't want to have to fuss with your kestrel or dig out your phone!!!!! :)
 
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Yes........No......and Yes!!!!!

Yes they hold much of the same information....... The Dope card is quick reference fast, simple, easy. The Range Log should be your detailed information gathered during practice, you use it to make the Dope Card for when you need it fast.

No they do not serve the same purpose........ see above!

And Yes you need hard copies of everything....... Yes, electronics fail, batteries fail, and sometimes you just don't have the time. Now that being said only you know what kind of shooting you do. If your only shooting for you off a bench at your range when you want to, then no you don't need a dope card per say. The electronic will do all you need, I would still have the Range log to record hits, misses, and info for the solvers, you'll need it someday trust me. If your a hunter then the Dope card is a must. When dinner presents itself at 254 yards broadside and gives you the wink you don't want to have to fuss with your kestrel or dig out your phone!!!!! :)

thank you for the great response! you really clarified what everything does and what its all for. the range log is like what equipment, shooting conditions, where you hit, what ammo and how many, and what adjustments/corrections you made right? and the dope card is like a summary of what corrections you have to make for a quick reference