I tried to find an aics used but they were all in the same price range as the new prices offered from Euro optic. I am not one of these people that will deminish your asking price because someone has it on sale. I bought a new one. It sucks because the used ones had been purchased for a lot more and now you are supposed to take a $400 price cut because they are on sale? I feel for the guys selling used ones. I am facing the same dilemma with a Juggernaut chassis. I paid $999 for mine this spring, now they are being offered for $728 new at one vendor. See, I could have saved another $50 going with mile high on an aics. Figures.