I really wish we were all in the same room having this discussion with a couple of cold beers, man it would be fun and enlightening.
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Proving that not even a philosophy degree can stop you from calling names and yet again ignoring the very simple shared rules of this board.UVA, class of 95, philosophy, and at 45 years of age. I have the paperwork to prove it, Mr. dick lover.
Proving that not even a philosophy degree can stop you from calling names and yet again ignoring the very simple shared rules of this board.
So where is your law degree from?
I really wish we were all in the same room having this discussion with a couple of cold beers, man it would be fun and enlightening.
All I did was comment on your method of argumentation.
Really?! The playground defense of 'You started it'?! And from (presumably) a grown man....I had similar words to those about Graham before and ended up getting the same result. Don't take it personal, that's just how he is. If he cannot dazzle you with brains he will baffle you with bullshit.
I really wish we were all in the same room having this discussion with a couple of cold beers, man it would be fun and enlightening.
Nice try, but nobody is going to believe thatAll I did was comment on your method of argumentation.
Nice try, but nobody is going to believe that.
Really?! The playground defense of 'You started it'?! And from grown men....
When you have nothing of value to say on a thread, try to resist the temptation to change the topic of discussion to personalities you know nothing about.
Really?! The playground defense of 'You started it'?! And from (presumably) a grown man....
When you have nothing of value to say on a thread, try to resist the temptation to change the topic of discussion to personalities you know nothing about.
I neglected to mention your capacity to praise yourself while you disrupt other people's discussions.LOL The ease of which I am able to shake you out of your tree is quite entertaining.
This has already been demonstrated with the ability of the other side to steal elections, commit treason (IMO) in the highest office of the land without resistance other than a few pundits pointing and shouting, etc etc.
What should the people of Ct be doing? IMO, the freedom-loving gun owners of Ct need to get together in neighborhood watches etc and monitor not only for lawbreakers' movements but monitor the police (and even national guard) movements as well. Not pulling guard duty with an AR in hand, but radios/cell phones etc to communicate in a network of like-minded individuals. There are no laws (I don't think) against watching out for the police and maybe telling somebody when the SWAT van leaves the station. If they DO decide to go raid gun owners and my house is their first stop, a headsup would be appreciated so I could at least have a chance to get the family out before they hit.
I really wish we were all in the same room having this discussion with a couple of cold beers, man it would be fun and enlightening.
Probably not, cause from the sounds of it.....there would be a lot of men showing their dicks.
I think this discussion would take a couple kegs, but good idea.
I think you are asking the wrong question. If for some reason a person was arrested, individually, for a charge and his guns were confiscated in the process then to me that is a different situation. CT is different, because it is a government attempt to disarm the populace as a whole, which is an entirely different matter. One person having their rights violated in an isolated, individual incident is not the same threat to liberty as an entire population losing their means to resist at once. The one ought to be fought in court, the second in the streets if necessary.Disruptions aside, there are many who have offered opinions here, but I would like to hear on this thread the experience of one person who was required to to give up his gun, and what he chose to do about it; and/or from one person who made the choice to live rather than keep his personal property.
I think you are asking the wrong question. If for some reason a person was arrested, individually, for a charge and his guns were confiscated in the process then to me that is a different situation. CT is different, because it is a government attempt to disarm the populace as a whole, which is an entirely different matter. One person having their rights violated in an isolated, individual incident is not the same threat to liberty as an entire population losing their means to resist at once. The one ought to be fought in court, the second in the streets if necessary.
But I think you know that, and are being pedantic just to stir the pot.
Please don't be like Maggot and reduce everything to a personal issue with people he doesn't know. What he is doing is disruptive to the site and he's been warned about that. I am looking for those with experience from Canada, Australia and the UK. I've been there. I've seen it happen while it was happening. I am looking for the voice of experience rather than to hear from people who are just posturing and calling names on the Internet.I think you are asking the wrong question. If for some reason a person was arrested, individually, for a charge and his guns were confiscated in the process then to me that is a different situation. CT is different, because it is a government attempt to disarm the populace as a whole, which is an entirely different matter. One person having their rights violated in an isolated, individual incident is not the same threat to liberty as an entire population losing their means to resist at once. The one ought to be fought in court, the second in the streets if necessary.
But I think you know that, and are being pedantic just to stir the pot.
But I think you know that, and are being pedantic just to stir the pot.
and you guys are afraid of a few cleptocrats in suits , come on, grow a pair. I aint giving up on the USA, there is no place left to run. Stand your ground Conn. The first act of self defense will be spun by the MSM, the rest of the freedom loving population will perform in the second act.
If CT starts going door to door, they would not be able to do it en masse before those who do not view guns as mere property would have time to prepare
I am looking for those with experience from Canada, Australia and the UK. I've been there. I've seen it happen while it was happening.
Irish whiskey?! Seriously?!! Remind me to next time bring you a bottle of Scotch.Damn, 3 hours and a few Jamesons later and yall still measuring dicks?
Rhunter, is your argument now that Americans are different people because we have rights given to us by a Constitution? Either the rights are inalienable or they aren't.
Still seeing nothing but wild speculation and personal baiting from people who haven't a clue, never been there and never done that.
Irish whiskey?! Seriously?!! Remind me to next time bring you a bottle of Scotch.
At the risk of being pedantic, sometimes it shows.How the hell do you know where I or anyone else has been and what I or anyone else has been through?
I was called a coward for even asking the question. Then the personal attacks began, and from people with no experience and nothing to add except attempts to disrupt an otherwise civilized discussion for the sake of their own gratification.
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That's just an out and out blatant lie. I did not attack you, I remarked about your style of argumentation. You had a little fit and started remarking about my dick being bigger than yours. Then you try to turn that into my attacking you and call me disruptive. Someone else called you a coward. and while it may be true, I had no part in that. Your obviously intelligent, but very troubled.
So get you fact straight before you start making your false accusations. Everyone on here sees you for what you are....a pedantic little fellow who likes to give it out but when he gets it handed back whines and pisses himself.
What a drag it must be, being you.
Reality check: Which one of us did you say, when he gets it handed back, does the whining and pissing?!Ok, guys, I think we all see whats going on here. Im going to drop out of this thread. This little fellow couldn't see the truth if it was as big as my dick, which he seems to know a lot about. If you all want to continue accepting his abuse that's up to you. Good night, all.
with no experience and nothing to add except attempts to disrupt an otherwise civilized discussion for the sake of their own gratification.
Please don't be like Maggot and reduce everything to a personal issue with people he doesn't know. What he is doing is disruptive to the site and he's been warned about that. I am looking for those with experience from Canada, Australia and the UK. I've been there. I've seen it happen while it was happening. I am looking for the voice of experience rather than to hear from people who are just posturing and calling names on the Internet.
CT will not happen before the election. If a dem wins then perhaps we'll see some interesting times. I believe there are enough Americans who see guns as a metaphor for freedom and there's nothing more dangerous than messing with a mans metaphors.
Sean,
At the beginning of this Thread I said that there's an argument to be made in a mature democracy in favor of handing in your guns instead of fighting it out to the death with the authorities. I stopped just short of calling people who today advocate armed resistance in CT 'radicals'.
As a practical matter, I asked, even if you don't fight it out, why lose everything you have and go to jail over a piece of property? Do your responsibilities to an ideal trump those you have to your family and loved ones?
I was called a coward for even asking the question. Then the personal attacks began, and from people with no experience and nothing to add except attempts to disrupt an otherwise civilized discussion for the sake of their own gratification.
So I asked for concrete examples. I wanted to show that in the real world, and in the past, most people gave up their guns.
To answer your question:
When the RCMP mailed out confiscation letters, people handed in their guns. Most people in Canada, like most in Australia and most in Great Britain, gave up their guns instead of getting arrested and going to jail.
Am I wrong? Were there firefights? Did you see any mass arrests? Any arrests at all? Where were those who talked like lions? Because when it went down I didn't see them. I didn't see them in Australia or GB in the earlier or later rounds of confiscation either.
I'm not judging them. I just suggested that the United States can't escape history and that people are the same the world over.
I wanted to hear from people who had actually been in that situation and who had made a decision: What decision they made, and why.