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Graham, there is something else you ought to consider. My perception is that you often look down your nose at those with little or no experience, as if by definition they cannot be serious men. That can be a dangerous assumption, causing us to undervalue a teammate or underestimate an enemy. Every man who has ever "been there and done that" at one time or another went there and did that for the first time. He probably even said he was going to do it before he did it. So while respect should be earned, so should derision.
Ok, guys, I think we all see whats going on here. Im going to drop out of this thread...
Flag: Although there's no board rule against going back on your word, there are prohibitions against trolling and on disrupting threads by persisting in personal attacks, veiled or otherwise.Ahhhh, good nights rest has me as fresh as the morning dew on a new rose.
A very interesting post, KY, especially the part about under valuing a team mate or under estimating an enemy. The counter point to that would seem to be "grossly over estimating oneself", no?
Bullshit,... Everyone has the same opportunity in this country, that's what we are about, but some have even more Opportunity by LAW. Some make excuses as to the why, but the only valid is mental ability or medical. If one whats to step up and be a BTDT, Uncle and others can/could hook you up at any time with opportunity, it's always been there 24/7. There are guys with in our Military combat forces that are not even US citizens, but they came here because we have that opportunity flowing out our ass.The problem with BTDT is that it is only useful as to credibility when it provided an opportunity for learning not available to anyone else.
I take your point, but when you call BS it couldn't hurt to have an argument and/or an illustration as to WHY it's BS.Bullshit,... Everyone has the same opportunity in this country, that's what we are about, but some have even more Opportunity by LAW. Some make excuses as to the why, but the only valid is mental ability or medical. If one whats to step up and be a BTDT, Uncle and others can/could hook you up at any time with opportunity, it's always been there 24/7. There are guys with in our Military combat forces that are not even US citizens, but they came here because we have that opportunity flowing out our ass.
But despite growing GDP, poverty is growing in our country: in 2004 12% of the population lived in poverty
Equality of opportunity is more of an ideal than a reality. The most accurate indicator of what someone will become remains who his parents were.
In a recent study, half of adults making less than $30,000.00 a year claim to have achieved the American dream; and 45% of that half said they were in a higher class as adults than when growing up as children. Is that equality of opportunity? I don't know. You decide.
So, what I do know is that virtue and opportunity don't always dovetail.
n a recent study, half of adults making less than $30,000.00 a year claim to have achieved the American dream; and 45% of that half said they were in a higher class as adults than when growing up as children. Is that equality of opportunity? I don't know. You decide.
But despite growing GDP, poverty is growing in our country: in 2004 12% of the population lived in poverty, up roughly 3/10% per year. If what you say was true, then we wouldn't rank third from the bottom of industrialized countries in wealth disparity - ahead of only Mexico and Russia
The same opportunity's are forefathers had are still available in this nation. People here have became lazy, and many believe what the power grabbers have been saying sense before Hoover. I like many can't grasp how 2 + 2 = 5 but that kind of college training/thinking is why we have a run away deficit. Now add the fact we pay folks educated beyond their intelligence to lead us, then wonder why the nation is like it is. Good men doing nothing is the reason, with common sense being uncommon. The pendulum is starting to swing back and now the ones fixing to get caught up with,... don't like it, hence the grabbing at straws. Doing the bidding of/for is the same as in many places, and all actions have consequences. Those who though they were or will be immune do to XXX will find, they were wrong.I take your point, but when you call BS it couldn't hurt to have an argument and/or an illustration as to WHY it's BS.
Equality of opportunity is more of an ideal than a reality. The most accurate indicator of what someone will become remains who his parents were.
In a recent study, half of adults making less than $30,000.00 a year claim to have achieved the American dream; and 45% of that half said they were in a higher class as adults than when growing up as children. Is that equality of opportunity? I don't know. You decide.
But despite growing GDP, poverty is growing in our country: in 2004 12% of the population lived in poverty, up roughly 3/10% per year. If what you say was true, then we wouldn't rank third from the bottom of industrialized countries in wealth disparity - ahead of only Mexico and Russia
So, what I do know is that virtue and opportunity don't always dovetail.
I am absolutely certain that anyone who registers is going to be facing a prohibitive tax/fee on "Assault Weapon" ownership.
But it's easy to talk a big game until lead starts zinging by.
RHunter, fair enough. However, sudden combat and gradual confiscation are different animals. As are imminent death, and the deprivation of property
Your forgot deprivation of rights and ideology.
I will concede that my position is a sum of many things but I honestly do feel there are many who believe the same way, and you are probably right that most people that talk big game will surrender their firearms in a confiscation. I would venture to say 99% of them would be civilians.
But I really do think there is a decent percentage of people like myself that have had more training than the guys that will show up at our door, have been shot at more times than the guys that would show up at our door, don't have kids at home like some of the guys that will show up at our door, and will seriously outgun those that would show up at our door.
There are a lot of pissed off military veterans in this country that were either pissed on when they came home, or were sent to a fight for the good of the country they were sent too only to see everything we worked for, and our friends that were killed there, was a complete waste of time, treasure, sweat, effort and LIFE. For what? So we could come home to have our constitutional rights shit on, medical claims denied, and a decent wheel chair for our buddies who got their legs blown off by an IED?
And now that same government we swore an oath to protect wants to confiscate our guns out of concern for public safety? Lie to us again?
I don't think so.... I would prefer to show my government what they got for that million dollars they spent training me.
Some people really fear death and that fear causes them to surrender or run, others have come to terms with death and those are to ones you need to be the most afraid of. They will be the ones that will fire back.
... I would prefer to show my government what they got for that million dollars they spent training me.
I am absolutely certain that anyone who registers is going to be facing a prohibitive tax/fee on "Assault Weapon" ownership.
"The power to tax a thing is the power to destroy a thing."
For those who think it can't happen here,... just read between the lines,....If You Can.
The Battle of Athens
For those who think it can't happen here,... just read between the lines,....If You Can.
RHunter, fair enough. However, sudden combat and gradual confiscation are different animals. As are imminent death, and the deprivation of property.
Finally, something we agree upon.The moment you unlock your knees, you might as well whip out the kneepads. We all die, but in the moment that you live without fear of physical death your spirit lives forever.
I am absolutely certain that anyone who registers is going to be facing a prohibitive tax/fee on "Assault Weapon" ownership.
"The power to tax a thing is the power to destroy a thing."
The moment you unlock your knees, you might as well whip out the kneepads. We all die, but in the moment that you live without fear of physical death your spirit lives forever.
For those who think it can't happen here,... just read between the lines,....If You Can.
The Battle of Athens
Do you think they will go house to house in Connecticut?
In NYC they had gradual confiscation. Register assault weapons, ban this and that, confisacte assault weapons. Ban high capacity magazines, confiscate them. etc.
I wonder how long they will have their jobs.....
Damn mosquitoe in here.... I thought this was going to be a decent thread. All it takes is one.....
I was wondering what the feel was during those times? Was it similar to what we are seeing now?