Journey for Bernie or Trail of Tears?
P.S. Don't get yourself 226k in debt and then reach for my wallet.
P.S. Don't get yourself 226k in debt and then reach for my wallet.
I just can’t get my head around making a choice, continuing on a choice you cannot possibly afford and then expecting or assuming someone else is going to pay for your choice.
$120 haircut and $15 worth of makeup on her face. I can see why she has financial issues and is looking for absolution in Socialism.
Coddled in a test tube, shelterd from reality, and unleashed upon the world.
Or is it easier to say “college graduate”.
Or is it easier to say “college graduate”.
A question that has always come to mind.
If they (Ivy League Schools) feel their education is worth 1/4 mil where is the job placement guarantee?
Most folks looking to invest in a product, higher/highest education, like to see the return forecast...
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If they (Ivy League Schools) feel their education is worth 1/4 mil where is the job placement guarantee?
Most folks looking to invest in a product, higher/highest education, like to see the return forecast...
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It blows my mind that parents support their kids to go deep in debt for an art degree, comms degree, -insert low wage degree-, when they know damn well they'll never get any real return on investment, and be smothered by student loans for fucking decades. The root of the problem: the parents.
I wouldn't throw stones at a higher education. I'd throw them at what the atmosphere on most college campuses has become, absolute anathema to anything but "progressive" thought. It's become an attempt to pervert American culture towards liberalism by indoctrinating its decision makers. No, a college education, stripped of all the Che Guevara shit, is a fine thing. It's just really hard to find the pearl in the oyster any more.
You're exactly right. Most kids are 17yrs old when sitting at the kitchen table figuring out what college to go to. They don't understand compounded interest on debt. I know the daughter of a family friend with 200K in debt and a Psych bachelors. If she were to marry the same, they could own a nice midwestern home free and clear in lieu of that debt. Now she will be chasing her tail.
How a parent could do that to a kid?
Art Degree = You must be connected so you can get a 2 mil Govt grant to put lace panties on famous statues.
Comms Degree = If you are connected, a really good liar and like Dem Socialist's? You are an instant hire at CNN MSNBC for 350k a year. Bad liars a job on the view.
But if you are the 99.9% percent that do not have the above? You become a traveler seeking OPM on the "Journey for Bernie.
Comms Degree = If you are connected, a really good liar and like Dem Socialist's? You are an instant hire at CNN MSNBC for 350k a year. Bad liars a job on the view.
But if you are the 99.9% percent that do not have the above? You become a traveler seeking OPM on the "Journey for Bernie.
I know how she could make a fast $10 bucks that she could put towards her worthless education, personally I would of majored in why frogs fuck.
Admittedly I should have said -> Recent
Here is another one that will go over like a basket of snakes in a hen house.
How is "live and let live" working out for y'all after they drove the moral compass out of this country?
Here's a little story that broke the camel's back.
I dated my 1st wife for 5 years during that time I put 2 of her 3 daughter's through college.
One went to the university of Tennessee and the other went to George Mason university.
I was young and didn't know much about the college scene,but I had a good job and wanted to help.
I noticed a difference in both girls about a year and a half into it.
During the 4th year me and mom got married and things changed.
I came home early from work one day and noticed some official looking mail.
I opened the letter and was mortified to see that my now wife signed papers for parent backed student loans.
$410K worth
I confronted the wife about it and she replied that the kid had to have money to live on while in school,( yeah 103k a years worth)
"Earning a PHD is serious business and she can't be distracted by work or worrying about rent,food etc."
We were married 6 months when I filed for divorce,the judge explained to soon to be ex wife that I wasn't liable for the loans,or the othe 30k in CC debt.
Here we are 15 years later and neither of the girls have a job in their fields.
One is working in a gym, the other is trying to find herself,she has went from being a vegan to a Muslim (dated a black guy) to becoming a Jew (dating a Jew).
These are the people that are going to be passed the reins someday.
Now,back to daughter #3,she put herself through school,became a Veterinarian and is contributing to society.
I dated my 1st wife for 5 years during that time I put 2 of her 3 daughter's through college.
One went to the university of Tennessee and the other went to George Mason university.
I was young and didn't know much about the college scene,but I had a good job and wanted to help.
I noticed a difference in both girls about a year and a half into it.
During the 4th year me and mom got married and things changed.
I came home early from work one day and noticed some official looking mail.
I opened the letter and was mortified to see that my now wife signed papers for parent backed student loans.
$410K worth
I confronted the wife about it and she replied that the kid had to have money to live on while in school,( yeah 103k a years worth)
"Earning a PHD is serious business and she can't be distracted by work or worrying about rent,food etc."
We were married 6 months when I filed for divorce,the judge explained to soon to be ex wife that I wasn't liable for the loans,or the othe 30k in CC debt.
Here we are 15 years later and neither of the girls have a job in their fields.
One is working in a gym, the other is trying to find herself,she has went from being a vegan to a Muslim (dated a black guy) to becoming a Jew (dating a Jew).
These are the people that are going to be passed the reins someday.
Now,back to daughter #3,she put herself through school,became a Veterinarian and is contributing to society.
This isn't the fault of the college. It's not the college's job to raise children. Don't lump all graduates into the same box. What blows my mind is that lender's are willing to loan out that kind of money to an 18-22 year old. Would that same kid be able to get that loan for anything else? A business? I doubt it. There is a serious problem with making it so easy for someone with little to no financial experience to take out loans that high. Kind of reminds me of the housing crash, where we gave out home loans for people who could not afford it. Why we don't have lower caps on education loans, I'll never figure out. If she needed that much money to attend that university, she clearly could not afford it. Why she thought taking out $200k in loans was a better idea than serving 4 years of her life in the Air Force first, I don't understand. I doubt that is the only school that offers a degree in speech pathology. She could have gone to community college first, followed by a state school. She is in that much debt because society allowed her to be. Her parents allowed her to be.
I've found that if I plant pepper seeds in my garden, I tend to harvest peppers later on. This generation is the harvest, and we are simply seeing what was planted by her parents generation.
Every time the politicians promise financial aid for college it is a bone thrown to the colleges, bankers, and professors. It has nothing to do with what’s good for American citizens and most especially students.
If all aid was removed then probably half these schools would go out of business.
The whole “go to college” meme is brainwashing, ie marketing by legal organized crime.
If all aid was removed then probably half these schools would go out of business.
The whole “go to college” meme is brainwashing, ie marketing by legal organized crime.
Who the lenders are being backed by is more than part of the problem.
This would include the housing market crash.
Consider this: The banks kept the earnings privatized until the system collapsed under it's own weight.
They then charged the public the losses.
The college loan business will follow suit.
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She's VOLUNTEERING for Bernie...
Volunteering.
She's apparently educated above her own intelligence level. Too much of that thing around.
Instead of volunteering, maybe getting a job, any kind of job would begin to eliminate that debt.
Instead, like Veer pointed out, she thinks someone else should foot the bill so she can continue living well above her means.
You can't fix something that stupid.
Maybe porn will be her way out...
Volunteering.
She's apparently educated above her own intelligence level. Too much of that thing around.
Instead of volunteering, maybe getting a job, any kind of job would begin to eliminate that debt.
Instead, like Veer pointed out, she thinks someone else should foot the bill so she can continue living well above her means.
You can't fix something that stupid.
Maybe porn will be her way out...
There are 4 subjects the average parent is scared shitless to discuss with their children.
Sex
Drugs
Guns
Finances
This falls under the Finances category.
You hear people tell children all the time "you can be anything you want"
NO!! You can not. At least that is how it was explained to my daughter. It takes $Xxxx a month to run this house. If you enjoy the life style I have provided you will need the same.
She has understood this from the age of 10-12. Everytime she has had a "dream" I have responed with "great, how do you make money doing that".
She has actually done research and found out that you don't. And the dream was gone.
I will support her in anything if she can show me a plan that leads to her being successfull part of society. That doesn't mean she needs to be a billionaire, if she is happy and enjoys what she is doing. But she will NOT be on welfare.
Sex
Drugs
Guns
Finances
This falls under the Finances category.
You hear people tell children all the time "you can be anything you want"
NO!! You can not. At least that is how it was explained to my daughter. It takes $Xxxx a month to run this house. If you enjoy the life style I have provided you will need the same.
She has understood this from the age of 10-12. Everytime she has had a "dream" I have responed with "great, how do you make money doing that".
She has actually done research and found out that you don't. And the dream was gone.
I will support her in anything if she can show me a plan that leads to her being successfull part of society. That doesn't mean she needs to be a billionaire, if she is happy and enjoys what she is doing. But she will NOT be on welfare.
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I doubt it... She'll probably go under another 50k working on that nose, and another 30-35 on her tits.
Remember these? It almost seems like a plan.
But you'll never see these in schools anymore.
But you'll never see these in schools anymore.
Well, in all fairness, being a speech pathologist is a VERY attainable goal, but she didn't need to go to a $50k+/year school to get that degree. 2 years of community college followed by 2 years at a public school, while working, would get her that same degree, in a field that is not competitive enough to need a $200k school.
The path we take to achieve our goals is just as important as the goal itself.
I say let’s gather her a collection for a one way ticket to Venezuela. There she can enjoy socialism to her hearts content. After all Bernie recognized it as a perfect example of how socialism works!
Education is good. Indoctrination is not. Blue Collar work was devalued thus bringing down the middle class. Intelligence and Education are not co dependent. An intelligent uneducated man is > an educated idiot.
It may have been a less taxing avenue towards a degree at a truly competitive university. Even Harvard has an ECE (Early Childhood Education) program.
I usually don't get involved with this crap but,
It's all the parents fault..
How you bring your kids up will carry over to adult life.
A very good friend of mine, brought up his two kids, very well disciplined and was big into education
He sent both to a very well known college (Bradley) and now both have very good well paying jobs
His daughter had a job at a large company and lived at home, came home and cleaned and cooked meals for them
and payed for groceries.
Her dad said instead of paying off the student loans she could pay him (rent) and continue to help
around the house. She is now moved out and in her upper 20's and has "payed" off her loan.
Both kids are well adjusted tax paying members of society, with very good jobs.
I'm very proud of both.
It's all the parents fault..
How you bring your kids up will carry over to adult life.
A very good friend of mine, brought up his two kids, very well disciplined and was big into education
He sent both to a very well known college (Bradley) and now both have very good well paying jobs
His daughter had a job at a large company and lived at home, came home and cleaned and cooked meals for them
and payed for groceries.
Her dad said instead of paying off the student loans she could pay him (rent) and continue to help
around the house. She is now moved out and in her upper 20's and has "payed" off her loan.
Both kids are well adjusted tax paying members of society, with very good jobs.
I'm very proud of both.
Look I agree asking and expecting for money or a free-ride is BS.. but lets put 250K in context. It really isn't much by todays 4 year schools and 1/2 or less than some.
My shooting buddy is now @ the University of Wyoming.. It actually has one of the strongest Mandarin programs.. But truth be told, I could not afford for him to go to an Ivy league school.
We are doing it on the cheap.. bought him a old farm truck for transportation 2k.. nothing fancy.
We pay a shit lode of Taxes, and still his education is costing ME about $225K ... between those things, I feel a bit cash poor.. BUT that was MY choice, I had the ability to pay the price. BTW our CC's didn't offer the Mandarin program he needed with his Econ.. Neither he nor I will be paying for collage loans after he graduates.
Reminding everyone this was one of the cheapest schools - The school system might be broken with museum like buildings and in some cases runaway salaries. But they also give a ton of education away to those with less means.. so people who can't pay are already able to get an education.. Yep, it is because guys like me that have to pay an artificially high price.
The smell test is that "if" she has that much collage dept, she has parents with means. They either aren't paying, or actually the ones that will pay the loan. That was their choice and we should NOT have to pay for it..
Bernie's idea of funneling more of MY money into taxes is not a solution but a bandaid...and it will bankrupt the country.
His plan actually rewards the entitled..and spoiled little liberals....
My shooting buddy is now @ the University of Wyoming.. It actually has one of the strongest Mandarin programs.. But truth be told, I could not afford for him to go to an Ivy league school.
We are doing it on the cheap.. bought him a old farm truck for transportation 2k.. nothing fancy.
We pay a shit lode of Taxes, and still his education is costing ME about $225K ... between those things, I feel a bit cash poor.. BUT that was MY choice, I had the ability to pay the price. BTW our CC's didn't offer the Mandarin program he needed with his Econ.. Neither he nor I will be paying for collage loans after he graduates.
Reminding everyone this was one of the cheapest schools - The school system might be broken with museum like buildings and in some cases runaway salaries. But they also give a ton of education away to those with less means.. so people who can't pay are already able to get an education.. Yep, it is because guys like me that have to pay an artificially high price.
The smell test is that "if" she has that much collage dept, she has parents with means. They either aren't paying, or actually the ones that will pay the loan. That was their choice and we should NOT have to pay for it..
Bernie's idea of funneling more of MY money into taxes is not a solution but a bandaid...and it will bankrupt the country.
His plan actually rewards the entitled..and spoiled little liberals....
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BT, DT. I wasn't "forgetting" anything. I was screencapping official information from their website for public consumption. I'm quite well aware of the cost of textbooks and air travel for study overseas, believe you me.
Why not graduate- get a job-
Pay off the loans over 30 years?
I wonder what type of car she is Leasing? German?
speech-language pathologists must be able to listen to and communicate with their patient in order to determine the right course of treatment. Speech-languagepathologists (sometimes called speech therapists) assess, diagnose, treat, and help to prevent communication and swallowing disorders in children and adults.
Quick Facts: Speech-Language Pathologists 2017 Median Pay $76,610 per year
$36.83 per hourTypical Entry-Level Education Master's degreeWork Experience in a Related Occupation NoneOn-the-job Training Internship/residencyNumber of Jobs, 2016 145,100Job Outlook, 2016-26 18% (Much faster than average)Employment Change, 2016-26 25,900
Pay off the loans over 30 years?
I wonder what type of car she is Leasing? German?
speech-language pathologists must be able to listen to and communicate with their patient in order to determine the right course of treatment. Speech-languagepathologists (sometimes called speech therapists) assess, diagnose, treat, and help to prevent communication and swallowing disorders in children and adults.
Quick Facts: Speech-Language Pathologists 2017 Median Pay $76,610 per year
$36.83 per hourTypical Entry-Level Education Master's degreeWork Experience in a Related Occupation NoneOn-the-job Training Internship/residencyNumber of Jobs, 2016 145,100Job Outlook, 2016-26 18% (Much faster than average)Employment Change, 2016-26 25,900
No a fly rod.. But he has some of his rifles. The school will store up to 3 long guns. @Tactical Taz runs UW's Precision Rifle club..
Was really trying to get you to tell which kind and where/what you were fishing for.
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Is the field itself really that competitive though? Keep in mind, I am simply referring to the example provided; speech pathologist. Just looking really quickly on Indeed, there are 60 jobs open in Indianapolis. Hell, I live outside of a town of <10k and there are 6 positions hiring. Seems like she could have gotten by a a cheaper school. I finished up at a state school not too long ago, in a field a lot more competitive than the example, and am not hurting for a job, or $200k in debt. If I remember correctly, I paid around $3-5k a term (3 terms/year). So, without the GI bill and working full time, I would have owed less than $100k at the end of my schooling.
That brings up another point I am failing to see here: why does working during school never seem to be an option? Both my wife and I worked full-time through undergrad and grad school. She took out a small loan during undergrad, but paid it off in grad school. Like I mentioned, I had the GI bill, so I actually made money going to school, given that I also worked full-time.
Good options are out there. I feel 0 sympathy for someone who is buried under student debt because the military was either beneath them or a waste of their time.
Good lord that is quite the number it is costing you. I often forget all the other expenses that a parent often has to burden. UW is one of the better schools. In state is way better than out of state tuition also. I cant imagine all the other expenses at another school. I have been able to go through school so far debt free. For the price, I will continue the education. If I was racking up even a little bit of debt, off to industry it would be. The most I paid a semester was about 1200 for tuition and books.
That kind of information is classified. Locations to the honey holes around here cost big time!
Wyoming treats their kids well -- I think they take care of some of Colorado too..
I must say, it is assume to see how patriotic UW is.. All in all Wyoming has some special people..
Anathema is also a band.
Older music is hard to listen to. The stuff from 2009 and on is pretty good.
yep, and look at that fat roll she has at end of video by her left arm pit, fat buttery cheeks and a small glimpse of her fat ass.
nothing that i saw reflected hard work, for petes sake her fucking sign looked like a stooge did it
nutts!!!
but you were not married till after she obligated herself to the loans, grand for you, and im glad you got away from her.
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