Hi Ryda, This shows it in black and in the video it shows grey/silver. Is it going to be available in either one and if so will both be available around the same time or will one be offered sooner then the other? Thank you.
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That’s right, cortina is basically offering a piercision brake with a tuner included for around $200. ATS wants $200 for just his tuner, and you still have to fork over another 150 or more for a brake. Cortina has a bargain there.
The brake with integrated tuner just uses the standard muzzle threads.
that taper attachment doesn't violate 419's patent?
I love your design. excited to see it in person.
The ATS allows you to use your standard barrel threads and existing muzzle devices.
The EC tuner/ Brake is all in one.
The EC tuner (stand alone) requires special threads be machined behind the shoulder of your existing threads and allows use of existing muzzle devices.
Oic,Yea I know the question was meant to be rhetorical
I have the ATS
How does it work for you? I picked one up but havent shot it yet. Do you have to re-tune if switching muzzle devices?
This whole tuner thing is intriguing. Especially since there isnt any real science to explain it. And it only takes a small adjustment to make a huge difference down range.
I mean, it’s just harmonics, like a tuning fork. Same thing as looking for nodes. It lets you tune the barrel to the load instead of tuning the load to the barrel.
It’s not moot, you had to purchase those items at some point. Obviously there’s pros and cons to each, but for a new shooter one offers a considerable price break.
The 19th. He gave his Patreon supporters first dibs before he went or goes public with them. Will also be coming out with a 3/4 thread version as well as black options
didn’t you have a few conversations with someone on the phone a while ago about the idea of a tuner/brake but they never really came through?
then saw it for sale to the public before you ever saw the prototype?
I might be confused though.
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What are the specs of your barrel? Specifically the contour.
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Theis
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You are not confused, hahaha. That is pretty much how it went down but no issues with that as long as the T&E guys got them and put them through the paces.
I asked for a clam style brake though since I prefer them over the gill brakes. We can get into the gas stripping debates for the next year but there is a reason the big bores seem to function better with clam style brakes.
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Theis
I just mounted it on my dads ca ba tactical 6.5 prc to test out tomorrow. It will end up going on my gap prc with mtu or my heavy straight bartlien prc
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Looks like I will be ordering test samples from a few different manufacturers and see what happens. No promises on what will be available as an option until they are are tested on our rifles that all have MTU contoured 27" barrels.
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Theis
Hi,
Definitely interested in the differences/effectiveness from the Carbon barrel to the MTU contour hog leg barrel.
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Theis
I installed the ATS on my 300PRC heavy varmit 29.5" Bartlein....I will be getting the EC Tuner/Brake soon. I'm highly interested in how they compare. I'm about to install an Area 419 Sidewider Magnum Brake with the universal adapter. I think this solution would be best for running a suppressor and back and forth to a brake. Just write down your settings of each.
I found the ATS to be extremely quick to tune a load on a thick profile barrel. I think the EC Tuner/Brake would be a better option when I shoot benchrest, F Class, and belly type matches that don't allow suppressors. I'm going to test this Winter with both systems and see which one works best for my needs.
I found the ATS to be extremely quick to tune a load on a thick profile barrel. I think the EC Tuner/Brake would be a better option when I shoot benchrest, F Class, and belly type matches that don't allow suppressors. I'm going to test this Winter with both systems and see which one works best for my needs.
Will definitely keep you updated.
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I have a 6gt barrel that just got to straight jacket for milling for a EC tuner. I will try to post some information when I start working loads in a few weeks. I am planning to run the tuner with a suppressor so it will be interesting to see how it tunes.
that CAD proto, if effective, is going to be a real winner I feel. this is based on a long time user and believer in 419's brakes and a new believer in tuners. very excited to see where you take this. good luck man!
also, if you could keep it in mind to offer a stainless raw version. some of us really like having clean brakes and utilize CLR as a cleaner and it ruins the nitride finish in coated parts. something to think about for down the road.
Tuner absolutely works. Did a quick test on factory Hornady 143s out of my dads gun. Gun shoots the match 147s right at 3/8 and my hand loads of Berger 156s better than that so i know the gun is capable. I started at 0 which is top left and went to 10. Setting 2 is what the typical groups looked like using the 143s before the tuner. As you can see on 6 things tightened way up. I let everything cool and repeated the same test with nearly identical results. Settled on 6 and shot a few 3 shot strings and all groups were as good or better. Thing absolutely works
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Should have kept going... might have found something even better in the other half of the rotation.
That was the plan but only had enough tome to do a quick test this morning. Going to put it through the paces Friday morning on my gap prc
20 if you count the half settings
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Thanks for posting the results of the tuner brake testing! How was the felt recoil of the rifle with this brake?
In all reality it was hard to tell the difference between this and my area 419 break. I would say it worked just as well
I think of video on all of those topics together would be super beneficial and will show everything anyone would need to know
I get the tuner is to match the barrel to the bullet, wouldn't you wanna match the bullet to the barrel IE CBTO ladder test then match that best load to the tuner for ultimate small group? I mean that's what I would do....
Or is the point of the tuner so you can just load to mag length and now you can be lazy?
Or is the point of the tuner so you can just load to mag length and now you can be lazy?
The tuner doesn't match the bullet to the barrel. If your barrel doesn't like a certain bullet, a tuner won't fix that.
Think of tuners as doing the same thing as playing with seating depth.
A tuner just makes your rifle more adaptable. You can make factory ammo shoot better or skip the seating depth tuning step in your load workup.
If you want to wring every last bit of accuracy out of your handloads you can play with the tuner after you get your seating depth settled.
If you have velocity A and seating depth B, tuner setting C will produce similarly small groups to adjusting charge weight and seating depth, potentially at a higher charge or more convenient (read: exists on shelves) powder. It won’t work miracles, but it’ll be a tremendous improvement for factory ammo in particular.
But remember, if your ES and SD's are crap, a tuner won't help you.
Primers and powder charge to get consistent velocity, seating depth and tuner to shrink group size.
He makes one that goes behind your muzzle devise too. Use it with your own brake or suppressor!
This is not great info.
As long as running high quality bullets, it’s very rare to find a bullet your “barrel doesn’t like.” For example, I have not found a single Berger or hornady (eld) that won’t shoot.
The more likely scenario is that your barrel just isn’t that good and won’t shoot as well as other barrels. Rather than it “just doesn’t like a bullet.”
I think more people than you think is in this camp of running a brake and can on the same rifle, I'm one of them.
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