Wondering if anyone has tried them and what there thoughts are? I have a nexus and helix on its way to demo and exited to get into testing. Will be testing them beside a Steiner m7xi, Schmidt pmII, vortex razor gen II, nightforce nxs, Nikon black, vortex razor lh, vortex hs. I will be testing it on a vudoo v22 to start for budget friendly ammo out too 300 yards and then switching it over to my 25 creed to run it through there paces. At there price points I’m excited to see what they have to offer as there reticles look nice and there features. The helix is made in China and the nexus is Japan. Been told made in the same factory as nightforce and vortex so excited to put it against them.
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There are quite a few over in the UK and they seem to be very well received. Lot of scope for the money by all accounts!
I’ve been running the Nexus on my PCP rifle since they were released. I really like it, posted a review of it a while back.
Well the elements showed today as well as my razor spotter. Initial impression is these are well made beautiful optics! To start the helix is packaged like a 1500$ plus optic. The turrets feel and sound very good. More tactile then the Nikon black, vortex pst gen 1, vortex hs, Nikon monarch, razor lh, bushnell tactical. Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to seriously look at the glass but will be starting tomorrow with the nexus. Have it mounted on the vudoo and will be starting glass comparison with Nikon black, nightforce nxs, Schmidt and bender pm II and vortex razor gen 2.
Light Optical Works
Light Optical Works, Ltd. of Suwa City, Nagano Prefecture, Japan. Carries out development of binoculars, rifle scopes, spotting scopes, and field scopes.
i'm confused why anyone would spend $100 less than a razor gen 2 for an airgun scope with less than stellar specs/features
even if it's made by low, for the feature set i wouldnt pay more than like $500
curious to see how this goes...
even if it's made by low, for the feature set i wouldnt pay more than like $500
curious to see how this goes...
The Nexus is indeed a LOW made scope and they did a really good job with this one. It easily made it onto my list of recommendations. It is an interesting design in that it does not look all that impressive until you spend some time with it. It is an extremely well rounded package with very few weaknesses. The only thing "airgun" about it is the close focus, but I had it on everything from an airguns to The Fix and it has not hiccupped once.
I have not spent much time with the SFP Helix, but I have been messing with the new FFP Helix for a bit and I suspect that in its price range, that scope will be the one to beat.
Titan is in between Nexus and Helix and while I have seen it, I have not spent enough time with it to form strong opinions. A couple of my friends seem very happy with it.
ILya
I have not spent much time with the SFP Helix, but I have been messing with the new FFP Helix for a bit and I suspect that in its price range, that scope will be the one to beat.
Titan is in between Nexus and Helix and while I have seen it, I have not spent enough time with it to form strong opinions. A couple of my friends seem very happy with it.
ILya
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I would be interested to know what percent of market share LOW has on optics. Not knocking them, but it seems like there are about 9 million optics companies now that just send their specs to them, then engage in whatever marketing jiu-jitsu is needed to become a profitable company.
look at their website
they basically say 'hey, design a scope with a new name and we'll make it for your price point'
That's pretty much every OEM out there. LOW is simply one of the better known ones. In generally, they do both their own designs and manufacturing for other people's designs.
ILya
I picked up an Element Titan as it came with a second hand FAC rated PCP I bought. First impressions were it was a decent optic for the money but rather large and heavy. The reticle (Mrad D) is very nice and the optics clear and bright. I have left it on the PCP so not sure how it tracks as I tend to use holdover, however the few times I have dialed it the scope has tracked back to zero fine despite a bit of mush in the turrets. Still prefer my PST gen ii and Nightforce SHV F1 at longer ranges but I wouldn't pass up a Titan for the money, coming in cheaper than a strike eagle (at least in the UK) and optically slightly better in my view from a limited comparison at my rfd's shop. In short not really a hunting scope given its size and weight but pound for pound I think it punches above its price point.
In Canada the razor is 3000-3500 and the amg is 3500. The nexus is 2000 dollars so it’s a big jump up to the razor from the nexus here. I also thought the nexus was 1500 in us and the razor ranges from 2000-2500 I thought?
I did a box test, vertical line test, and the aggressively mashed the turrets all over the place for 2 mins, returned them to zero and it was bang on for all tests. So tracking looks good.
Optically/function/feel, I had it side by side with a pm ii 3-20, razor gen 2 4.5-27, and nxs 5.5-22 today. I had a target at 50 and 100, a shed at 475, a tree line from 800-1000 and a cell phone tower at 1500. So far I’m extremely pleased with it.
-As far as turret sound/click goes it in order from best to worst; razor, element, pmII and nxs
- feel ; razor, pmII, element and nxs are close
- ease of zeroing turret; element, then pmII, vortex and nxs are tied
- zero stop feels rock solid on all 4.
- setting zero stop pmII and razor, then element last nxs
Optically the it’s very impressive glass for its price range. Before I put my foot in my mouth, my shooting partner will be here Thursday to get behind all 4 and a Steiner, and my sister is a professional photographer who has been using high end camera equipment for years now and I’ve asked her to also take a look through all of them. I know it’s a different game but she has studied and focused her professional career looking for colour, clarity, CA, brightness and contrast. I’m hoping to post our opinions on glass later in the week after more time behind it.
Sounds really exciting actually. Loving all the new scope companies getting into the mid niche. (well, maybe new to the u.s. anyways)
Just remember guys, when assessing new unproven scopes, regardless of who they're made by, we must stay out of the mindset that super clear glass, super tactile clicks, and tracking test passes is not everything we need in a scope. If Nightforce released a new 6000 dollar scope with 100% light transmission, and super clicky clicks, but after one drop on your rifle because it slipped out of your hands and now tracks 9 mils off, doesn't make it a winner. Clarity and clickiness is all worthless if they scope can't take a beating. Or takes on a leak during a rainy rifle match.
Alllll these new scopes that are coming out are not winners just because they're super clear and the turrets are tactile... Beat them first, then say they're winners...
Well put. I will be testing in the rain tomorrow. Not excited having a raining 1 degree day to shoot in but it will be a good test. I am just trying to get permission to beat on the optic before I have to buy it off my buddy lol. Cause I’d like to test this. My razor and nxs have taken some seriously hard nerve racking tumbles/falls and never had an issue.
In case this was not covered: since this thread was started, Doug at CameraLand started carrying Element Optics products and he is a supporting vendor here.
I still have my original Nexus (one of the very first that got into the US) and like it a lot. A lot of scopes come and go here, but I ende up keepign the Nexus for the time being. Since then, I have also started experimenting with the new Helix FFP and that is probably my top choice for a FFP variable under $500. Tracking is right on the dime. The reticle is very good and it is generally a rather well rounded package.
ILya
I still have my original Nexus (one of the very first that got into the US) and like it a lot. A lot of scopes come and go here, but I ende up keepign the Nexus for the time being. Since then, I have also started experimenting with the new Helix FFP and that is probably my top choice for a FFP variable under $500. Tracking is right on the dime. The reticle is very good and it is generally a rather well rounded package.
ILya
I am suppose to be receiving the titan as well before I finished any testing. But right now the nexus looks to be amazing for the money! Tracks flawlessly, glass is superb, overall I’m extremely pleased. The helix I tested first and had nothing but great things to say but my shooting partner said it won’t track at all. So I’ll be getting it back in a week or so to see if it’s the rings, base, or the optic!
OK. We started carrying Element Riflescopes
As we just started handling their scopes and not too many people are familiar with them it makes sense to have someone here get one in their hands and do a review.
Who here is an honest guy and wants us to send them an Element Helix 6-24x50 SFP - EHR-1C MOA #50042 to review?
Looking for a riflescope that punches above its weight? Something that holds its own against products twice its price? We’ve designed the HELIX in a way that puts the important things first: clear glass, smart reticles, innovative features and a turret system superior to other products in the same price class. Our turret system has been upgraded from your stock-standard sporting optic to feature stainless steel internals for resistance against wear-and-tear when dialing regularly – something that modern shooting disciplines require. The tool-free turrets and zero-stop mechanism give you high end features without breaking the bank, and the 24x reticle calibration allows you to effectively use the reticle at 12x and 6x if you so wish (with some basic math, of course!). We’ve introduced quality control checks to give you peace of mind when taking that 1000 yard shot, and if something goes wrong, our Platinum Lifetime Warranty has you covered!
We feel a true member review is the best way to either make or brake new products.
If you're interested please give me a call, 516-217-1000, and let's get this going. Thanks in advance for your interest.
As we just started handling their scopes and not too many people are familiar with them it makes sense to have someone here get one in their hands and do a review.
Who here is an honest guy and wants us to send them an Element Helix 6-24x50 SFP - EHR-1C MOA #50042 to review?
Looking for a riflescope that punches above its weight? Something that holds its own against products twice its price? We’ve designed the HELIX in a way that puts the important things first: clear glass, smart reticles, innovative features and a turret system superior to other products in the same price class. Our turret system has been upgraded from your stock-standard sporting optic to feature stainless steel internals for resistance against wear-and-tear when dialing regularly – something that modern shooting disciplines require. The tool-free turrets and zero-stop mechanism give you high end features without breaking the bank, and the 24x reticle calibration allows you to effectively use the reticle at 12x and 6x if you so wish (with some basic math, of course!). We’ve introduced quality control checks to give you peace of mind when taking that 1000 yard shot, and if something goes wrong, our Platinum Lifetime Warranty has you covered!
- 30mm Main Body Tube
- Compact, Lightweight design
- Second Focal Plane Reticle – useable at 6x, 12x and 24x
- Aircraft Grade Aluminium
- Side Parallax: 10yds-Infinity
- Fully Multi-Coated Lenses
- Tool-free Resettable Turrets with 6 MRAD / 15 MOA per Revolution
- Hard Mechanical Zero-Stop
- Removable Magnification Throw Lever
- Waterproof, Fogproof, Shockproof & Nitrogen Purged
- Sunshade, Lens Cloth & Rubber Lens Caps included
We feel a true member review is the best way to either make or brake new products.
If you're interested please give me a call, 516-217-1000, and let's get this going. Thanks in advance for your interest.
It is close. Nexus has slightly better CA control, I think, and wider FOV.
With Tract, I like the locking turrets and the magnification ratio is a little higher.
ILya
Are locking turrets really that important? I couldn’t tell but from your review and others I watched on the tract it seemed that the Nexus had really bright daytime illumination?
Nexus illumination has good dynamic range, so it is pretty bright on max, but still low enough for limited light use on low.
I do not dial wind very much, so I really prefer capped or locking windage turret. For the elevation turret, zero stop is enough.
ILya
