Enlightening OP ED Piece on Julian Assange / Wikileaks

[W54/XM-388]

Dont take any small country lightly but Russia right now is nothing but a nuclear armed mafia like oligarchy.
Assange in addition to being detestable is lazy.

Have you taken a look around our own country recently.... fast becoming a two armed party run corporate serving oligarchy.... It won't be long before elections are as "sure a thing" for the communists as they are for Putin. (Hence why they want illegals to seal the deal).

But as to Assange, well he is an SJW... They have this tendency to be lazy, self centered and filthy dirty, (sometimes disgustingly filthy dirty) when left to their own devices, or if they feel mistreated.

 

[Mr.BR]

Just my 2 cents. The ultimate goal of WikiLeaks wasn't to expose corruption and inhumane acts by the military. Those were merely tactics. The GOAL is to sow division. Assange is the puppet. Vlad is holding the strings.

Would you at least take a look at Wikileaks page before you come to conclusion you have been conditioned for for past couple of years

https://wikileaks.org/

Russia almighty and Vlad the exeptional is just a delusion spun by the MSM and the politicians .

Russia done it ,list a short take. https://thegrayzone.com/2019/03/27/...ssia-the-russians-have-been-accused-of-doing/

• 
  Forcing Donald Trump to hire Rex Tillerson (Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law professor).
• Forcing Donald Trump to fire Rex Tillerson (Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law professor, eight days later).
• Forcing Donald Trump to give concessions to North Korea (Rachel Maddow, MSNBC anchor).
• Meddling in the 2018 Italian parliamentary election (George Soros, investor; Anders Fogh Rasmussen, former president of Denmark, former secretary general of NATO and Michael Chertoff, former U.S. secretary of homeland security).
• Winning the 2018 Italian parliamentary election (Haaretz, The Hill).
• Hacking the 2017 French presidential election (Michael Rogers, NSA director, Politico, numerous other outlets).
• No, really, hacking the 2017 French presidential election (Jamie Raskin, U.S. congressman, after French government denied Russian involvement, stating the hack was “so simple it could have practically been anyone”).
• Brexit (New York Times, numerous other outlets).
• Helping rise of far-right AfD party in the 2017 German election (Time).
• Causing the 2019 U.S. government shutdown (Haaretz).
• Making the New York Times editorial board criticize Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko (Petro Poroshenko, president of Ukraine).
• Weaponizing sexual assault accusations in order to attack Kremlin critics (George Takei, Kremlin critic accused of sexual assault).
• Weaponizing information (Theresa May, UK prime minister).
• Weaponizing misinformation (NPR).
• Weaponizing the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe (Philip Breedlove, U.S. general, NATO, John McCain, U.S. senator).
• Weaponizing humor (CNN, BBC).
• Weaponizing “black America’s experiences” (Slate).
• Using the popular cartoon Masha and the Bear as “soft propaganda” to indoctrinate British children (The Times of London).
• “Promoting sex toys on Instagram to sow discord in the US” (Quartz).
• Influencing the Standing Rock movement (Buzzfeed).
• Making “‘useful idiots’ of unwitting environmental groups and activists” (U.S. House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology).
• Targeting the U.S. embassy in Cuba with “some kind of microwave weapon, that is so sophisticated, that the Americans don’t even fully understand it” (Ken Dilanian, MSNBC reporter). [The microwave weapon turned out to be crickets].
• “Infiltrating” America’s Christian conservative homeschooling movement (Casey Michel, Think Progress)
• Inflaming “race wars” across America with Facebook ads (Julia Ioffe, The Atlantic)
• Assassinating self-exiled Russian journalist Sergei Babchenko. (Ukrainian government) [Babchenko turned up alive the following day and revealed that he had faked his death in cooperation with Ukraine’s security services].
• Whatever the hell Jonathan Chait was trying to explain with a Glenn Becksian diagram – “a plausible theory of mind-boggling conclusion” (Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine).
• Arming the Taliban (John Nicholson, commander of US forces in Afghanistan; Nick Patton Walsh, CNN) [Nicholson’s claim was debunked by a two star US general speaking under oath. The report by Patton Walsh was thoroughly demolished by Tasks and Purpose).
• Employing U.S. senator Rand Paul (John McCain, U.S. senator).
• Interfering in the Catalan referendum (US Congressional Democrats)
• Planning to interfere in Israel’s 2019 elections (Israeli Shin Bet General Security Service)
• Recruiting Princeton/NYU professor emeritus Stephen F. Cohen to influence U.S. policy (Bill Browder, CEO Hermitage Capital). [Browder’s tweet was deleted after people pointed out that casually calling for Americans to be investigated by the FBI is not a good idea].
• Funding The Intercept (Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and DNC head).
• Spreading disinformation about Ukrainian neo-Nazis carrying out Roma pogroms (Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and DNC head).
• Inflaming the NFL kneeling controversy “to make a big issue seem like an even bigger issue” (James Lankford, U.S. senator).
• Inflaming ICE detaining immigrant children in cages controversy – “using the current family separation & immigration debate to sow discord among Americans” (James Lankford, U.S. senator).
• Orchestrating the mailing of pipe bombs to Democratic lawmakers and liberal figures (Chuck Todd, MSNBC anchor).
• Tricking Guardian journalist Luke Harding into writing a questionable, thinly-sourced story in order to make it look like Harding is an untrustworthy journalist. (“Alex Finley”, ex-CIA officer writing under fake name).
• Using “Soviet-era tricks to evoke racist white fears” (Terrell Starr, Washington Post).
• Harvesting “American rage to reshape U.S. politics” (New York Times).
• Dividing America (New York Times).
• Using “vaccine debate to sow discord" (New York Times).
• Sowing discord in the 2018 elections (Dan Coats, director of national intelligence).
• Targeting African-Americans to suppress 2016 election turnout (New York Times).
• Amplifying “existing divisions in American society” (USA Today).
• Hacking “the mindset of the American people” (Malcolm Nance, MSNBC contributor and grown man).
• Tricking Americans into thinking Jesus hates Hillary Clinton (New York Times).
• Supporting Bernie Sanders (New Knowledge, which was later caught interfering in the 2017 Alabama Senate election).
• Tricking Americans into voting for Bernie Sanders, via Facebook ads featuring drawing of buff Bernie Sanders (New York Times).
• Turning Jill Stein into a Russian agent (Zac Petkanas, Democratic strategist, former Hillary Clinton campaign director of rapid response).

Anti-Masturbation hotline is totaly missing in this short list LOL

 

[cornhusker86]

Would you at least take a look at Wikileaks page before you come to conclusion you have been conditioned for for past couple of years

https://wikileaks.org/

Russia almighty and Vlad the exeptional is just a delusion spun by the MSM and the politicians .

Russia done it ,list a short take. https://thegrayzone.com/2019/03/27/...ssia-the-russians-have-been-accused-of-doing/

• 
  Forcing Donald Trump to hire Rex Tillerson (Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law professor).
• Forcing Donald Trump to fire Rex Tillerson (Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law professor, eight days later).
• Forcing Donald Trump to give concessions to North Korea (Rachel Maddow, MSNBC anchor).
• Meddling in the 2018 Italian parliamentary election (George Soros, investor; Anders Fogh Rasmussen, former president of Denmark, former secretary general of NATO and Michael Chertoff, former U.S. secretary of homeland security).
• Winning the 2018 Italian parliamentary election (Haaretz, The Hill).
• Hacking the 2017 French presidential election (Michael Rogers, NSA director, Politico, numerous other outlets).
• No, really, hacking the 2017 French presidential election (Jamie Raskin, U.S. congressman, after French government denied Russian involvement, stating the hack was “so simple it could have practically been anyone”).
• Brexit (New York Times, numerous other outlets).
• Helping rise of far-right AfD party in the 2017 German election (Time).
• Causing the 2019 U.S. government shutdown (Haaretz).
• Making the New York Times editorial board criticize Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko (Petro Poroshenko, president of Ukraine).
• Weaponizing sexual assault accusations in order to attack Kremlin critics (George Takei, Kremlin critic accused of sexual assault).
• Weaponizing information (Theresa May, UK prime minister).
• Weaponizing misinformation (NPR).
• Weaponizing the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe (Philip Breedlove, U.S. general, NATO, John McCain, U.S. senator).
• Weaponizing humor (CNN, BBC).
• Weaponizing “black America’s experiences” (Slate).
• Using the popular cartoon Masha and the Bear as “soft propaganda” to indoctrinate British children (The Times of London).
• “Promoting sex toys on Instagram to sow discord in the US” (Quartz).
• Influencing the Standing Rock movement (Buzzfeed).
• Making “‘useful idiots’ of unwitting environmental groups and activists” (U.S. House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology).
• Targeting the U.S. embassy in Cuba with “some kind of microwave weapon, that is so sophisticated, that the Americans don’t even fully understand it” (Ken Dilanian, MSNBC reporter). [The microwave weapon turned out to be crickets].
• “Infiltrating” America’s Christian conservative homeschooling movement (Casey Michel, Think Progress)
• Inflaming “race wars” across America with Facebook ads (Julia Ioffe, The Atlantic)
• Assassinating self-exiled Russian journalist Sergei Babchenko. (Ukrainian government) [Babchenko turned up alive the following day and revealed that he had faked his death in cooperation with Ukraine’s security services].
• Whatever the hell Jonathan Chait was trying to explain with a Glenn Becksian diagram – “a plausible theory of mind-boggling conclusion” (Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine).
• Arming the Taliban (John Nicholson, commander of US forces in Afghanistan; Nick Patton Walsh, CNN) [Nicholson’s claim was debunked by a two star US general speaking under oath. The report by Patton Walsh was thoroughly demolished by Tasks and Purpose).
• Employing U.S. senator Rand Paul (John McCain, U.S. senator).
• Interfering in the Catalan referendum (US Congressional Democrats)
• Planning to interfere in Israel’s 2019 elections (Israeli Shin Bet General Security Service)
• Recruiting Princeton/NYU professor emeritus Stephen F. Cohen to influence U.S. policy (Bill Browder, CEO Hermitage Capital). [Browder’s tweet was deleted after people pointed out that casually calling for Americans to be investigated by the FBI is not a good idea].
• Funding The Intercept (Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and DNC head).
• Spreading disinformation about Ukrainian neo-Nazis carrying out Roma pogroms (Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and DNC head).
• Inflaming the NFL kneeling controversy “to make a big issue seem like an even bigger issue” (James Lankford, U.S. senator).
• Inflaming ICE detaining immigrant children in cages controversy – “using the current family separation & immigration debate to sow discord among Americans” (James Lankford, U.S. senator).
• Orchestrating the mailing of pipe bombs to Democratic lawmakers and liberal figures (Chuck Todd, MSNBC anchor).
• Tricking Guardian journalist Luke Harding into writing a questionable, thinly-sourced story in order to make it look like Harding is an untrustworthy journalist. (“Alex Finley”, ex-CIA officer writing under fake name).
• Using “Soviet-era tricks to evoke racist white fears” (Terrell Starr, Washington Post).
• Harvesting “American rage to reshape U.S. politics” (New York Times).
• Dividing America (New York Times).
• Using “vaccine debate to sow discord" (New York Times).
• Sowing discord in the 2018 elections (Dan Coats, director of national intelligence).
• Targeting African-Americans to suppress 2016 election turnout (New York Times).
• Amplifying “existing divisions in American society” (USA Today).
• Hacking “the mindset of the American people” (Malcolm Nance, MSNBC contributor and grown man).
• Tricking Americans into thinking Jesus hates Hillary Clinton (New York Times).
• Supporting Bernie Sanders (New Knowledge, which was later caught interfering in the 2017 Alabama Senate election).
• Tricking Americans into voting for Bernie Sanders, via Facebook ads featuring drawing of buff Bernie Sanders (New York Times).
• Turning Jill Stein into a Russian agent (Zac Petkanas, Democratic strategist, former Hillary Clinton campaign director of rapid response).

Anti-Masturbation hotline is totaly missing in this short list LOL

You're barking up the wrong tree. I don't subscribe to msm horseshit anymore than you do. Just making the point that if America is divided, Russia gains by having a weaker adversary.

 

[W54/XM-388]

You're barking up the wrong tree. I don't subscribe to msm horseshit anymore than you do. Just making the point that if America is divided, Russia gains by having a weaker adversary.

Russia is not the one we need to be most worried about. For foreign enemies it's China. They are working way hard all across the world to expand their power and influence... using the money Americans send them every time an American buys something "made in China". They are taking that money to "loan/force" strategic assets into their pockets in smaller countries all around the globe right now. Then for domestic enemies, it's hard for any foreign power to beat the destructive force of our local Communist/Democrat parties.

 

[Mr.BR]

You're barking up the wrong tree. I don't subscribe to msm horseshit anymore than you do. Just making the point that if America is divided, Russia gains by having a weaker adversary.

Russia was quite content with being a regional power till the coup in Ukraine struck at its heart (Russians trace their lineage to 9th century Kievan Rus , before they conqered the east , Kiev was the center of Russian world ), its been forced in much more agressive posture , but even now its mostly a defensive posture and miltary budget is actualy being downsized and is about the size of US inteligence services budget., under 60billion $

Russia is being made adversary for no reason but internal US politics , constant bashing and sanctoning is pushing them into Chinas fold . If reason would prevail Russia could/would be and ally against China as its quite vary of China on its borders . A wast sparsly populated country with infinite natural resources (over 30%+ of all worlds natural resorces and less than 2% of worlds population ),and over the border 1.3+bilion Chinese in need of all the resources they can get hold of .

 

[ArmyJerry]

Well i don't like Russians either.

 

[cornhusker86]

Russia was quite content with being a regional power till the coup in Ukraine struck at its heart (Russians trace their lineage to 9th century Kievan Rus , before they conqered the east , Kiev was the center of Russian world ), its been forced in much more agressive posture , but even now its mostly a defensive posture and miltary budget is actualy being downsized and is about the size of US inteligence services budget., under 60billion $

Russia is being made adversary for no reason but internal US politics , constant bashing and sanctoning is pushing them into Chinas fold . If reason would prevail Russia could/would be and ally against China as its quite vary of China on its borders . A wast sparsly populated country with infinite natural resources (over 30%+ of all worlds natural resorces and less than 2% of worlds population ),and over the border 1.3+bilion Chinese in need of all the resources they can get hold of .

To each his own, but Russia will always be an adversary in my eyes.

 

[pmclaine]

@Mr.BR may be the Russian Hillary warned us about but in this post he is telling some wisdom.

That Ukraine area was the heart of Russian culture for centuries.

It's likely why the Mongol horde settled there so as to have control over their capital.

Moscow was a malarial swamp far enough away from the Khans that they could escape some of the occupation while sending tribute to the invader until the married themselves into the countryside or returned east.

The only reason the DonBas region wasn't still solidly Russian was Stalin shoving everything around to make the border satellites bigger buffers from invaders coming from the west.

Ukraine should be bitching to Poland for return of its property.

WWI was continued in 1939 and what we know as WWII is continuing in various places still today.

I agree Russia could be a natural ally in regards to a certain religious fanatic issue and there is more culturally/economically similar in regards to the Asian Communists.

Russia has an economy the size of California's for perspective.

Lots of potential but too much corruption and history to overcome.

Clinton abandoned an opportunity to set a good path when Communism fell. He wanted a peace dividend.

That indifference means the road to deconstructing 700 years of political paranoia will take time.

 

[cornhusker86]

I have nothing against the Russian people. Only the rulers. That country has a very long history of the most ruthless seizing power at the detriment of it's people.

 

[ArmyJerry]

meh, I am okay killing them all.

 

[cornhusker86]

meh, I am okay killing them all.

Sometimes I miss the cold war too.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Reality check.Russians own known ballistics missiles. Largest artillery by far.Backed up by a billion chinks.

Once Russia set up the outdated S-200 in Syrian.CIA ran like the bitches They are.Whats Russia up to S-400?


Mother Russian drew a line in Syria.America blinked.

 

[ArmyJerry]

you dont know what the fuck you are talking about there junior. show some facts to back up your bullshit

 

[W54/XM-388]

Reality check.Russians own known ballistics missiles. Largest artillery by far.Backed up by a billion chinks.
Once Russia set up the outdated S-200 in Syrian.CIA ran like the bitches They are.Whats Russia up to S-400?
Mother Russian drew a line in Syria.America blinked.

There is a reason the Russians never tried to use their missiles in Syria against US planes... they want to be able to sell them to the rest of the world and neither them nor us want to have an open demonstration that the current USA stuff is well..... pretty hard to go against. There was a bit of an agreement on both sides that they each get to have fun without shooting at each other. There was one incident where some of the mercs from the Russian side kind of forgot about that.....

The Russians are not totally idiots, they do realize that if it goes to a shooting war they will loose without question.
We however know that if they go balls to the walls, they can inflict some serious hurt on their way down and will probably go nuclear since that is the only play they really have against us, other than seeing if their subs get any action, so we play cold war / new cold war.

But even back in the cold war, the Soviets understood fairly early on the lead the USA had in getting working weapons exactly where they are wanted every time.

Artillery and tank collections mean little when you own the skies and space which we do.
Billon chinks... well right up till we say boom....

 

[ArmyJerry]

shhhhhhh, dont tell them

BTW I am a firm believer in first use, also in robust use of tactical nukes,,, we can win that way too,,, fukem all and fukem hard...

 

[cornhusker86]

Speaking of US airpower in Syria;

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...-wounded-russians-reminder-us-airpower-syria/

 

[Howland]

shhhhhhh, dont tell them

BTW I am a firm believer in first use, also in robust use of tactical nukes,,, we can win that way too,,, fukem all and fukem hard...

In a Mexican standoff, the one who shoots first gets to go home. That's we've always reserved the right to preemptive use.

 

[ArmyJerry]

read the reports from russian survivors, first arty locked them down , spread them out and kept them holed up while every us asset in theater came by and dropped whatever they had available on them,, the russian translations bought a smile to me for weeks.

I hate russians, not the hot chicks but every other russian.

 

[pmclaine]

Reality check.Russians own known ballistics missiles. Largest artillery by far.Backed up by a billion chinks.

Once Russia set up the outdated S-200 in Syrian.CIA ran like the bitches They are.Whats Russia up to S-400?


Mother Russian drew a line in Syria.America blinked.

Really Putin had a couple hundred of his green men smoked there.

 

[pmclaine]

Reality check.Russians own known ballistics missiles. Largest artillery by far.Backed up by a billion chinks.

Once Russia set up the outdated S-200 in Syrian.CIA ran like the bitches They are.Whats Russia up to S-400?


Mother Russian drew a line in Syria.America blinked.

You must be thinking of the Obama years.

 

[pmclaine]

I have nothing against the Russian people. Only the rulers. That country has a very long history of the most ruthless seizing power at the detriment of it's people.

Took a class on Russian history in college because well, history was may major.

Interesting as hell what the Rus went through. If nothing else they are survivors in the face of adversity and it has made them fiercely patriotic.

Mongol hordes, Swedes, Vikings, Poles, Germans all have at one time or another either ruled or put the Rus in peril yet they have out lasted them all.

The result is they developed a lot of secrecy/hard methods in running matters under oppressive govts.

Too bad developing their own oppressive govt seems to be the end result.