What is your favorite trainer round?
Looking for something other than 6mm or 6.5 as good ammo for those is over $1.00/RD
Looking for something other than 6mm or 6.5 as good ammo for those is over $1.00/RD
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Were you running the 88G ELDM's in a 223AI or straight 223? Whats the barrel life on the 223AI?Another thing to consider, you have to shoot a mountain of rounds to even think about breaking even with a trainer.
Even buying a used tikka 223, scope, rings, mags, etc to get started with a trainer and then the ammo to feed the trainer, the cost savings would take a long time if ever for most people.
Might be better to just buy more ammo for what you have???
With that said I really enjoy my 223, 223ai and 22lr match rifles. Notice how I didn’t say trainers……. 223 with a long throat shooting heavies is a very competitive round. In my case I was running 88eldms in my last 223 and it was equal to my 6br with 108eldms so I sold the 6br.
You are reading my mind.Another thing to consider, you have to shoot a mountain of rounds to even think about breaking even with a trainer.
Even buying a used tikka 223, scope, rings, mags, etc to get started with a trainer and then the ammo to feed the trainer, the cost savings would take a long time if ever for most people.
Might be better to just buy more ammo for what you have???
I shot a lot of that Hornady American Gunner 65CM 140s when I started PRS. Was a great round for the money back then.Of course there are shipping charges, but……Global Ordinance has ADI .223 69 grain SMK , 200 rounds, 149.99. 19.99 for 20. Excellent performance out to 500 yards through my Savage Model 12 LRPV, 7 twist but should do OK with a 9.
For 6.5 CM, PSA’s AAC 140 grain BTHP ( Hornady bullet ) 19.99 for 20, 21.99 for 20 of AAC 140 grain SMK. Also, there’s Hornady’s American Gunner 140 BTHP. My Super Varmint loves all of these.
In my case - I like being able to load a bunch of 223 very fast and easy with a Dillon progressive versus my usual Dasher single stage process. I tend to use the 223 "trainer" at 300-600 yards. Also, all the components are so much cheaper.You are reading my mind.
Sometimes I wonder if the trainer purchase is a fig leaf for wanting another firearm.
-Stan
223 but good 223 is over a buck a round too. The stuff that’s cheaper is shit.
Actually, all cheap factory ammo is shit.
I buy Eley Match for about $0.40 a shot in Canada. 223 blaster ammo starts at $1/shot. “Match” 223 runs $2-$4/shot. Even projectiles end up being close to $1/In my case - I like being able to load a bunch of 223 very fast and easy with a Dillon progressive versus my usual Dasher single stage process. I tend to use the 223 "trainer" at 300-600 yards. Also, all the components are so much cheaper.
Issue with 22LR trainers is "good" 22 ammo is so expensive and at times hard to find. I practice with my PRS22 rig also.
$289 all in, including shipping. Hard to beat for live fire training. Also a gateway cartridge for non-shooters.I buy Eley Match for about $0.40 a shot in Canada. 223 blaster ammo starts at $1/shot. “Match” 223 runs $2-$4/shot. Even projectiles end up being close to $1/
Just my opinion but....What is your favorite trainer round?
Looking for something other than 6mm or 6.5 as good ammo for those is over $1.00/RD
Truth. My 75gr .223 loads are so close to my 105gr 6BR loads ballistically that I once shot a whole match using my calculator's .223 profile instead of the (correct) 6BR profile, and did fine on all but the 800+ yard stages. The 6BR has minimally more recoil, of course, in otherwise identical rifles, but not much at all.The idea of training with lighter/heavier recoiling rifles or less ballistically efficient cartridges sounds good in theory but in reality you're training to became better with a system that acts nothing like what you're competing with.
IMO 80% of training can be achieved with cheap ammo like CCI Standard velocity, inside of 100yards I don’t think CCI SV give up anything for training purposes, and inside of 150yards you still have good enough precision.Issue with 22LR trainers is "good" 22 ammo is so expensive and at times hard to find. I practice with my PRS22 rig also.
I agree that the majority of training can be accomplished without shooting a round.This may be controversial but I don’t believe you need to build a trainer that perfectly matches your centrefire comp rifle.
Most people over think it, or probably more realistically (as above) use it as an excuse to build a new rifle.
General rifle handling, building a position, getting comfortable with rifle controls and gear can all be achieved with dry fire.
This probably makes up 70% of all your training requirements, probably even more.
22lr will teach you wind reading, trigger control (more so that dry fire IMO), breathing, and basic recoil management (not joking).
This doesn’t have to exactly match you comp rifle, if you can shoot a 10lb 22lr that is close to your main rifle well of barricades then when you shoot your perfectly balanced 24lb rifle if feels like cheating.