Maggie’s Ferrari + Cop + foot = Jail

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Re: Ferrari + Cop + foot = Jail

1st, did the ferrari driving douche think that if he just drove away he wouldnt get the ticket?
2nd, the cop knew that putting his foot there meant that as soon as the tire contacted his foot it became assaulting an officer and he gets a free pass to beat the crap out of the guy.
 
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Cop didn't put his foot under the car to get run over jack wagons, he moved himself so that he would be obstructing drivers path, Ferrari guy knew he was gonna hit the cop with his car, asked for what he got
 
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Hindsight being 20/20 and all, it seems to me that the whole incident could have been handled by the LEO addressing the driver when the driver arrived. Stand next to the door, the driver cannot enter, no issue.

Dohnuts, if you watch the video, the LEO moves in front of the vehicle when the driver is not looking. The movement is slight, and I'd say it could be easily missed by somebody who is....not looking.

But the part that really gets me is the 'CPR' on the side of the LEO vehicle - Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect. The audio quality of the video is quite bad, but I'm fairly certain that I heard at least two F-Bombs from the LEO; the window of the civilian vehicle was struck by the LEO; and the driver was put to the ground and cuffed....I'll admit not being terribly familiar with NYC traffic law, but I don't recall ever seeing or hearing of anybody being cited for parking between a traffic cone and an unmarked curb. I'm not saying that the driver wasn't in the commission of some violation, but from the information provided in the video a violation isn't obvious. This may be a contributing factor to the driver acting like he wasn't doing anything wrong.

I'll bet the driver gets off with nothing, since malicious intent would be difficult to prove. Combine that with the reaction of the LEO at the event, and I'll bet all the city gets is a decent training video.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hink</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hindsight being 20/20 and all, it seems to me that the whole incident could have been handled by the LEO addressing the driver when the driver arrived. Stand next to the door, the driver cannot enter, no issue.

Dohnuts, if you watch the video, the LEO moves in front of the vehicle when the driver is not looking. The movement is slight, and I'd say it could be easily missed by somebody who is....not looking.

But the part that really gets me is the 'CPR' on the side of the LEO vehicle - Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect. The audio quality of the video is quite bad, but I'm fairly certain that I heard at least two F-Bombs from the LEO; the window of the civilian vehicle was struck by the LEO; and the driver was put to the ground and cuffed....I'll admit not being terribly familiar with NYC traffic law, but I don't recall ever seeing or hearing of anybody being cited for parking between a traffic cone and an unmarked curb. I'm not saying that the driver wasn't in the commission of some violation, but from the information provided in the video a violation isn't obvious. This may be a contributing factor to the driver acting like he wasn't doing anything wrong.

I'll bet the driver gets off with nothing, since malicious intent would be difficult to prove. Combine that with the reaction of the LEO at the event, and I'll bet all the city gets is a decent training video. </div></div>

i noticed the cpr as well, and i didnt see any professionalism in this video.


edited to avoid pointless argument
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like how he embellishes the limp when he walks across the street. If you watch closely, it never actually run over his foot. </div></div>

Yeah get real. I used to stick my feet under tires of my friends' cars in high school to get a rise out of them. It doesn't hurt that bad.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ledzep</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like how he embellishes the limp when he walks across the street. If you watch closely, it never actually run over his foot. </div></div>

Yeah get real. I used to stick my feet under tires of my friends' cars in high school to get a rise out of them. It doesn't hurt that bad. </div></div>

damn..thats what you did for fun when you were growing up?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hope the car wasn't scratched. </div></div>

It looks like at the end you can see a dent where he got slammed into the car. At 2:35 the rear quarter panel looks a bit off.
 
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I know some people are all hung up on cops being douchebags/assholes/whatever, but the officer moved in front of the car to keep the driver from leaving. He was likely just about done with his ticket, give it to the driver, have a safe day, move on. Nope. Blame lands completely on the driver. It is blatantly obvious that he was going to be getting a ticket, yet he drove on the cop anyways.

Life is tough. It is even tougher when you are stupid.
 
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Why didn't he address the guy when he walked up?
Why did he let him get in the car?

I seems to me if the officer had only communicated with the guy and stepped in front of the door instead of the tire, none of that would have happened. I have no doubt the driver probably had an attitude like his shit didn't stink and thought if he could leave before he finished the ticket, he wouldn't have to get it.

Officer: How are you doing today sir? Is the your vehicle?
Driver: Yeah, I'm moving it.
Officer: That's fine sir, before you do I need you to sign right here. Thank you, have a nice day.
 
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that ferrari douche bag rag head got what he deserved, if he can afford a ferrari he can afford a ticket, driving away may work in Dubai or LA but not New york, I don't really care if he drove over the cops foot or not, he made the situation way worse by trying to leave and disregard the officer and now he has nice gunbelt scratches on his shiny car to show for his stupidity.
rant off.
 
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I'd say that is a great example of where profiling would have predicted the outcome.

A car like that in a downtown NY has to be driven by a prick. The police officer should have known that and knew that he would try and leave before the ticket is written.

Why didn't the cop say anything? I bet they have a policy on scof-laws where they cannot speak unless spoken to so they cannot be accused of escalating the incident.

I would like to hear the outcome of this incident.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 11B101ABN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whats with all of the <span style="color: #FF0000">shitheads</span> blaming the cop or other wise trying to make this the officer's fault.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Douchebags</span>. </div></div>

The answer to your question lies within.
 
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There are 3 points of view that can be had here.
1. You can be a moron and think that the officer was entirely sincere and was justified in his words or actions only because you did not agree with the guys lack of respect for his authority.

2. You can obviously see that the officer's foot was never under the tire and assume that it was intentionally placed there so that he could express his resentment (for the driver's race, financial status, age, and/or disregard for the law) by way of throwing his face into the pavement.

3. You can assume that the officer placed himself in front of the car in order to stop the driver from leaving the scene. With this option, you have to consider the officer to be a complete fucking moron who didn't have the common sense to move his foot out of the way the first time it was ran over and then an even bigger fucking moron to put his foot back underneath the tire to be ran over again.

Regardless of you point of view, I have to assume that protocol for such an incident does not call for beating on a vehicle. The driver clearly speaks to the officer before entering the vehicle and the officer ignored him. We'll never know what was said, but the lack of response is a good view into his public relations skills in my opinion. The body of the car never changes altitude. Go out into your driveway and run over a shoe and observe the height of your hood against the horizon. The car would have lifted had it been on his foot. The car never moved once the officer started whining about his foot. Had his foot actually been under the tire, he would not have been able to move it without the tire being rolled off of it. At first he snatches back his left foot as if it was the injured foot. The right foot was nearest the tire. Taking weight off of your left foot is not a typical reaction when your right foot is in pain. The officer's screaming fit doesn't really jive well with the timing of the car's movement and his foot placement either. This all leads me to believe that he is full of fucking shit and was looking for an excuse to take out his aggression on that raghead, cop hating, self-entitled because of daddy's money, etc. kid. All of that is confirmed when he orders him out of the car and then slams him on the ground. If you pay attention, the driver was complying with the order and began to exit the vehicle slowly just as I would. There was no reason to slam the guy on the ground. I'm all for beating the shit out of criminals most of the time, but this was uncalled for. The officer is a piss poor representation of his department and his brethren, but what the hell do I know. I'm just a simple fella' from Alabama. Down here it takes a bit more than a scuffed shoe to get that excited.....

 
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Some of you guys are delusional to how things actually work out in the real world. This elitist douche figured that if he just pretended that the cop wasn't there and drove off, he wasn't responsible for the ticket. Did he intend to run over his foot, probably not. Did he, I'm sure the tire started to or passed completely over the cops foot.

The minute I have a tire on my foot, courtesy and professionalism go out the fucking window. This guy got off light the way I see it. The cop should have broke the window and pulled him through THEN face planted and cuffed. Still though, bet you next time the jackass will wait until the officer is done conducting business to drive away but not before looking to his left and right first lol.

As far as the cursing goes, are you guys fucking kidding me? A site full of grown men, military, roughnecks, iron workers, operators, ranchers, linemen etc etc and guys get offended because the cop had the audacity to state that the car was on his "fucking foot"? I was under the impression that there were some tough dudes here with thick skin but I'm learning that's not the case. In another thread some guys were crying because the title of the tread was "harsh" lol. Wonder how some make it thru life.

In my opinion, the only dumb move on the part of the cop was when he stepped in front of the car. This is how guys get killed or hurt. Luckily for the cop, this wasn't a real bad guy. Just some snobbish douche.
 
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You'd fit into a hybrid group that is a mixture of point of views 2 and 3
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I was raised that you have respect for the police...I work with many of them...for the most part they are professional..when you are at a traffic stop, ticket situation, or the like, you are required to follow the reasonable instruction of the officer...he says dont move the car..you dont, simple...he is not encroaching on your civil rights...he did not ask for your gun...if you dont like it..dont drive...as for his ethnic background or social status..honestly it did not seem to be an issue...I think the officer was annoyed he parked there...they were having police action all morning in the area.....

On another note, I have never been asked to be more PC on any other site than here, all of "you" scream for the second amendment..but when you hear something you dont agree with "BAN HAMMER"..kinda sickening...
 
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Here is a firsthand witness and cameraman:

I was walking around Soho, NYC today when I stumbled upon this Ferrari 458 Spider with a cop writing a ticket next to it. I started to record the situation because I thought it'd make a cool video, little did I know what I was in for. As soon as I started recording the owner of the car appeared and got in it. He slowly started moving since he refused to accept the ticket (the car was parked in a hotels valet zone and the hotel valet had the keys, I myself don't understand why the cop was giving him the ticket, it was approved by the hotel that the car was parked there.) The cop then told him to stop but he proceeded to move forward. Now at this point I believe the cops foot was under the front drivers side tire. Yet again the owner moved the car forward and apparently he somewhat ran over the cops foot (or at least that's what can be made out from everything in the video, others at the scene claimed otherwise.) This triggered the cop and he slammed his hand into the drivers window and proceed to open the door (notice how many times he bumped it into the taxi cab) and pull the driver out forcefully. The driver was then thrown on the ground and handcuffed and arrested. The owners girlfriend seen in the video is also Stephanie Pratt from the MTV hit show, The Hills. The car did suffer some damage, paint chips on the door from when the cop slammed it into the cab and some scuffs by the engine bay shown in the last scene of this video. Pretty crazy situation, I was definitely at the right place at the right time!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The cop should have broke the window and pulled him through THEN face planted and cuffed. </div></div>

Easy tiger....


Above must be a cop, or daddy was one. Only way to justify such a gross over-reaction. Lay off the 5-Hour energy buddy
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: athhud</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are 3 points of view that can be had here.
1. You can be a moron and think that the officer was entirely sincere and was justified in his words or actions only because you did not agree with the guys lack of respect for his authority.

2. You can obviously see that the officer's foot was never under the tire and assume that it was intentionally placed there so that he could express his resentment (for the driver's race, financial status, age, and/or disregard for the law) by way of throwing his face into the pavement.

3. You can assume that the officer placed himself in front of the car in order to stop the driver from leaving the scene. With this option, you have to consider the officer to be a complete fucking moron who didn't have the common sense to move his foot out of the way the first time it was ran over and then an even bigger fucking moron to put his foot back underneath the tire to be ran over again.

Regardless of you point of view, I have to assume that protocol for such an incident does not call for beating on a vehicle. The driver clearly speaks to the officer before entering the vehicle and the officer ignored him. We'll never know what was said, but the lack of response is a good view into his public relations skills in my opinion. The body of the car never changes altitude. Go out into your driveway and run over a shoe and observe the height of your hood against the horizon. The car would have lifted had it been on his foot. The car never moved once the officer started whining about his foot. Had his foot actually been under the tire, he would not have been able to move it without the tire being rolled off of it. At first he snatches back his left foot as if it was the injured foot. The right foot was nearest the tire. Taking weight off of your left foot is not a typical reaction when your right foot is in pain. The officer's screaming fit doesn't really jive well with the timing of the car's movement and his foot placement either. This all leads me to believe that he is full of fucking shit and was looking for an excuse to take out his aggression on that raghead, cop hating, self-entitled because of daddy's money, etc. kid. All of that is confirmed when he orders him out of the car and then slams him on the ground. If you pay attention, the driver was complying with the order and began to exit the vehicle slowly just as I would. There was no reason to slam the guy on the ground. I'm all for beating the shit out of criminals most of the time, but this was uncalled for. The officer is a piss poor representation of his department and his brethren, but what the hell do I know. I'm just a simple fella' from Alabama. Down here it takes a bit more than a scuffed shoe to get that excited.....

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Pretty much sums it up. Where the guy gonna drive off to in such a hurry. It's NYC. You walk faster than you drive. He wasn't going anywhere without that ticket if the cop didnt want him too. So, beating up the car, and the driver was unessessary
 
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I started to do this math myself but ran across it in a Subaru Forum ( http://www.iwsti.com/forums/non-sti-rela...r-police-5.html). Same basic idea:

Ferrari Spider (Spyder). The dude is a total doucher and got what he deserved. He isn't denying that he ran over the cop's foot, but asserts the officer faked the injury. Apparently he knows nothing about cars, so allow me to enlighten him. The 458 is a midengined giving it a 42/58 f/r weight distribution and only weighs 3200 lbs. That leaves 1344 for the front axle, or 672 per wheel. With the large contact patch of that car's tires, there isn't that much PSI to crush the man's foot beyond a major sprain and swelling. Especially if wearing a steel toe (can't tell).

So, the adrenaline of his douchery gave the cop the ability to ignore the minor injury and wreck his poser ass. After the adrenaline wears down the cop starts to feel the soreness and swelling and begins limping.

You're going where your farts don't make noise, good sir.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The minute I have a tire on my foot, courtesy and professionalism go out the fucking window. </div></div>

You make it sound like this happens to you regularly. I would recommend that you don't place your foot in the path of a tire. That way you can maintain your courteous and professional demeanor that we have all grown to love.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KUSA</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The minute I have a tire on my foot, courtesy and professionalism go out the fucking window. </div></div>

You make it sound like this happens to you regularly. I would recommend that you don't place your foot in the path of a tire. That way you can maintain your courteous and professional demeanor that we have all grown to love. </div></div>

Well if you would have READ my entire post, you would have seen that I criticized the officer for placing himself in front of the vehicle. I imagine you did read that part but just chose to ignore it so you could insert your valuable commentary.

Funny how some of you guys demand the utmost respect yet at the same time think it to be perfectly okay to treat others like shit. Then when told to go fuck yourselves, you're "shocked/offended" at the lack of respect lol.

For the record, getting dragged out of a car and tossed to the ground is far, FAR from getting a beating. Then again, the term "beating" can be subjective. Some are more delicate than others.
 
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It's pretty obvious the cop created the whole incident, and is obviously using fabrication to arrest people. The car did not run over his foot. He would have been better off making the arrest for evading, if it came to that.

Also, I was under the impression that one is not allowed to place themselves in danger in order to justify the escalation of force...?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jerseymike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He told him to stop and he didnt. Now he can eat pavement......or cobblestone. He shouldve had his window busted and pulled through it. </div></div>

I agree...(except for being pulled through the window
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)was told to stop, he did not follow the direction given..a car is as dangerous as a weapon....
 
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Some people claim that cops are stupid,

why did this one actually go out of his way of actually proving it.

Personally I think it´s not the smartest of moves to stand in front of a car like that, actually not any kind of car,

after all, if and when one is run down and over, do you think there is enough air left in ones lungs to cry, PO, stop or...

I spy a cop having had a prior bad day at work taking it out on an opportune moment and person,

he <span style="text-decoration: underline">can</span> show he had good reason for the take down and arrest, nut no motivation as to why it did have to happen.

/CHris
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jerseymike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He told him to stop and he didnt. Now he can eat pavement......or cobblestone. He shouldve had his window busted and pulled through it. </div></div>

The Ferrari was situated in VALET PARKING, what about that aspect of the situation warrants the ticketing to begin with?

The driver's an arse, so's the cop.
 
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I had a officer clawl COMPLETELY under my truck while it was RUNNING (i am in the drivers seat) on the side of a state highway. The officer claimed "there were no mufflers on my vehicle". I asked if he had ever heard any engine without any mufflers. My truck had a single in, dual out flowmaster. Not loud by even grandma standards, but not stock.

I laughed as I looked out of the window to the ground and see knee caps and feet.


I was pulled over for "dark window tint". The officer had some gizmo that read the light tranmission.
"It has to be 60%"
me: "Does that mean it can't block 60% or needs to let 60% through?"

The officer then went on to measure the back (quad cab truck) windows which were factory tint. Those were also "illegal" he claimed. In the process he obviously had no idea on how to use the electronic tool.

I asked how long he was employed as a officer.
 
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Both are asses. COp and dude. Dude should have waited on the cop to finish and the cop over reacted by roughing him up. Then they took him to jail. for what? That clip was edited so I could be missing things from both sides.

More importantly the camera man should have got more footage of the girlfriend. she looked hump worthy.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cypriss32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That guy didnt run over that cops foot. Thats clear.... Now the city will pay to have that car fixed. Plus I bet he loses his job. </div></div>

I'd take that bet in a heartbeat, he'll never be fired.

You're more likely to find out he's filling out a disability claim, bank on it.

NYPD tolerates a HELLUVA lot worse actions than this hiccup, just read this story for some perspective.

Linky
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Guy Montag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The Ferrari was situated in VALET PARKING, what about that aspect of the situation warrants the ticketing to begin

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Just an FYI, being in a spot that is designated to be a valet "pickup/dropoff" by the hotel/restaurant staff does not grant the vehicle immunity from the slew of infractions (expired reg, improper plates, obstructing traffic etc etc) it may or may not have been guilty of.

I don't know what the summons was for and neither do you. For that matter who's to say it was in fact a valet spot? Cause some dude copied and pasted something he found online?

We don't know what precipitated the officer deciding to tag the vehicle but regardless of the offense, the driver knew what was going on and tried to avoid the summons by taking off. Had he waited like MOST people would do, this would have never happened. I don't think his intention was to run over the cops foot but in his haste to avoid getting tagged that's exactly what he did.

How would you react to someone running over your foot with a car?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jerseymike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So its not the guys fault for stepping on the go pedal? </div></div>

If cop= godlike and bulletprof= ok to stand in the way of car

If cop= human and will bleed if hurt= not smart to go stand in the way of the car.

The driver of cours is responsible for his actions, however and as stated above,

its obvious the PO was having a bad day and made sure to use all his official powers to coax a nothing in to something,

but I guess its ok to beat on people,

especially having a great car, better make sure to wreck that to a bit.

Different legal systems yield different results, for most of europe, they would have clamped or towed the car straight off,

for sweden the ticket would have been issued after a photo was taken, regardless of the driver taking off or not,

I guess based on US state laws that if the guy (driver) sues for wrongfull intervention, brutality and intential damages in a civil court he wil win his case,

the video is really compelling,

so going back over my answer, yes the cop is at fault,

and furthermore I guess if the union/PD consider that he is at fault/wrong in his duties,

he will be paying all on his own.

(btw- I have a thing for dishonest people, regardless of if they are in or out of uniform.)

/Chris