Rifle Scopes FFP vs SFP for a do all

@SLG , I didn’t figure it was, I just wanted that point to be made if that helped with any advice! Driver, I have looked at the PST and the XTR II, but I haven’t seen the SCR reticle.
 
@SLG , I didn’t figure it was, I just wanted that point to be made if that helped with any advice! Driver, I have looked at the PST and the XTR II, but I haven’t seen the SCR reticle.

The SCR is very nice, personally I like it better than the other offerings in the XTRII line. It is still very fine at max power, and not to busy so that at the lowest power the strata looks like a duplex and does not get lost in the extra hold-offs, like on some of the Horus styled (x-mass trees) reticle offerings. Of course as pointed out, that is not an issue either with a Horus styled ret in SPF.
 
My main NV pest control is SFP, because thats all I had and clip ons like a PVS-14, can't be mounted on my particular setup. At 3-15, the hashes are "supposed to be" accurate @ 3x (still they had to be mapped). I have another SFP daylite only 4-16 on an PCP that has the bump and calibtation index @ 10x. Seems it really is actually scaled at 8.75x-ish. This are examples of were you are also spot on, you need to learn the equipment. It isn't always what the mfgs state
Really interested in seeing a PVS14 clip on.
 
Ya, I get the subtension scale change.. without doing math what is 12MOA @ 4.75x, now 8.5x on your SPF.
Don't know an don't care as all my SFP scope are 10X max save one thats 20X. They are either at 3.5 at the double point or max an I can tell which just by looking threw them. If I could get a scope that only had 2 power settings I'd have one. I've never been lacking for power out to 1300 yds with the 10X's at all. Until I get past 400, 3.5X does everything I need done if I need more I go directly to 10x. The doubler stop I built comes in when shooting subsonics to 400yds as some sub matches I shoot do not allow knob'ing anything. Many guys have tried FFP scopes an found they are not the be all some would have every one to believe.
 
Don't know an don't care as all my SFP scope are 10X max save one thats 20X. They are either at 3.5 at the double point or max an I can tell which just by looking threw them. If I could get a scope that only had 2 power settings I'd have one. I've never been lacking for power out to 1300 yds with the 10X's at all. Until I get past 400, 3.5X does everything I need done if I need more I go directly to 10x. The doubler stop I built comes in when shooting subsonics to 400yds as some sub matches I shoot do not allow knob'ing anything. Many guys have tried FFP scopes an found they are not the be all some would have every one to believe.
I totally get niche things like your blackout or my PCP.. not really the same for the Ops use.
 
In front of a day scope?
Yes, again it is not the same as the issues stuff but does work ok. In my case, mounting is an issue on my FX.

Don’t know how PC it would be to add the details of my customer but they offer a bit better than “their” 14 as a clip on.

I want to be careful what I say as some of the products I might not be able to endorse.
 
Yes, again it is not the same as the issues stuff but does work ok. In my case, mounting is an issue on my FX.

Don’t know how PC it would be to add the details of my customer but they offer a bit better than “their” 14 as a clip on.

I want to be careful what I say as some of the products I might not be able to endorse.
Interesting. Wonder what the accuracy is like with a non collimated pvs-14. I'd assume not great.
 
Interesting. Wonder what the accuracy is like with a non collimated pvs-14. I'd assume not great.

collimated-

Your questions along with some of the posts from others on the hide, show that the “hide” still has it.

Anyway, that was my POA/POI concern too. The systems I shot had almost no discernible POI shift between day and night.

All that said, I still need to be concerned what I say. Hope that makes sense.
 
I totally get niche things like your blackout or my PCP.. not really the same for the Ops use.
Not a niche thing at all, an I have no use for a 300bo. They all set on either a .223 .308 , 300wm or 338lm that I cast an load subs for. I don't own an will not own a stick that will not do it all. Hunting, steel, paper, or other things each one is up to any task that needs to be done.
 
Not a niche thing at all, an I have no use for a 300bo. They all set on either a .223 .308 , 300wm or 338lm that I cast an load subs for. I don't own an will not own a stick that will not do it all. Hunting, steel, paper, or other things each one is up to any task that needs to be done.
Casing your own 300wm, 338s etc is not niche?
 
collimated-

Your questions along with some of the posts from others on the hide, show that the “hide” still has it.

Anyway, that was my POA/POI concern too. The systems I shot had almost no discernible POI shift between day and night.

All that said, I still need to be concerned what I say. Hope that makes sense.
Not real sure what the first line means, but I'm interested to see this when it's not double super secret squirrel shit.
 
Casing your own 300wm, 338s etc is not niche?
Nope, some comps require you to quietly tag a simulated sentry before engaging the other targets. No can or subs for the gun your running, your out of luck. If bullets ever dry up it will not effect those who cast at all, as cast projos can be run at about 85-90% of jacketed speeds w/o issue.
 
Nope, some comps require you to quietly tag a simulated sentry before engaging the other targets. No can or subs for the gun your running, your out of luck. If bullets ever dry up it will not effect those who cast at all, as cast projos can be run at about 85-90% of jacketed speeds w/o issue.
Got it... 6 bucks you’re next level ham too?

No disrespect in that statement
 
Not real sure what the first line means, but I'm interested to see this when it's not double super secret squirrel shit.
Update:
Talked to a guy at my customers. I asked him if their unit used an adapter/special setting or how it worked in front of the scope. Durning that conversation, he clarified his earlier statement. Long story short, the front of scope unit does have it’s own part number. With that, I am just assuming he misspoke the first time.

I have to go back when I have time and speak to a engineer instead of someone from procurement.
 
I know this is a tiresome question, and I’ve got an idea of what I want, but I’d like some advice anyway. I’m building a hybrid do-all rig. Definitely going to hunt with it and be shooting steel, anywhere from 100 yards to 1000. The hunting will be done 400 yards and in. Eventually, maybe even matches. I’ve never had a FFP scope, but I’m leaning that way for this rifle. Would you guys suggest for this purpose? FFP or SFP? I know nothing will be ideal for both, but help point me in the right direction.
FFP, and check out K&M precision rifle training in finger TN. Shannon and Mike can train you to be competitive in a few short days.... then practice practice and practice some more... the ffp is easy to Calc distance when you have to engage at unknown distances. The Khales SKMR is an awesome scope that won't breat the bank...