First .300 mag

[mcginnis101]

Ok, I have been searching the web and this forum for hours in search of my first .300 range rifle. I plan on only punching paper at long range. I have a pretty good idea what I want but can not find it.
I'm looking for:
Black Synthetic
Heavy Duty Barrel
24" or 26" Undecided
Black Barrel
Around $500 to $700
And of course .300 win mag or rum
Let me know your suggestions. Thank you

 

[HillbillyfromAL]

Re: First .300 mag

I would like to welcome you to the hide. Also I know the perfect place to get just what looking for. I'd be willing to share my secret with you if you could do me a favor. Not this weekend but next I need to practice on some moving targets. I can't afford the expensive stuff to do movers. So if you will come hold my targets and run side to side for a few short hours I'll give you all the info you want. By the way I like to use coke cans, and stuffed Teddy bears for the movers. Thanks and I'll see you then

 

[jerseymike]

Re: First .300 mag

a used rem 700p

 

[ORD]

Re: First .300 mag

That budget range is pretty tight. Best thing you can do is save up and find a Remington 700P or Sendero in 300WM. If you can't wait...try locating a proven, used model for sale here on the Hide, GunBroker, locally (can't tell where you are since you didn't fill out your profile).

As with all these "first" posts...don't forget:

1) you probably don't need a 300WM (but just wanting one is okay though);
2) you probably need to save at least the amount you plan on spending on your rifle for optics (if not more...also don't forget to budget for rings/base/bipod/etc.);
3) don't forget the substantial increase in price of ammo from .223 or .308 to 300WM (hopefully you reload);
4) try not to worry so much about the color of the stock/barrel or the "Heavy [Dutiness]" of the barrel.

 

[smgrendel]

Re: First .300 mag

Look for a Rem 700P bro.
and maybe think about 7.62 will save you some money.

 

[HillbillyfromAL]

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Alright I'll play nice too. Sportsman's Warehouse usually has a Remington 700 in that price range. I don't know about a black barrel but krylon does wonder's on shiny metal.

 

[HillbillyfromAL]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smgrendel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look for a Rem 700P bro.
and maybe think about 7.62 will save you some money.</div></div>

I think he means .308win. FFR 7.62 is a bullet diameter and means nothing by it's self.

 

[callen3615]

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I did some research about ammo cost with reloading. These are estimations, you could spend alot more if you use lapua brass or other higher end componets. I reload .308 with remington or winchester brass, 4064 or varget, whatever primers i can find cheap, and 175 smks. Some may consider those sub standard components but they have proven to shoot .3moa consistently. I am also assuming you can get 10 reloads per piece of brass.

300 win mag
brass .10
powder .20
bullets .35
primer .05

1 Reloaded .300 win mag round= .70 cents

Heres my 308 reloading breakdown

308 win
brass .04
powder .14
bullets .30
primer .03

1 reloaded .308 win round= .51 cents




Not a huge difference.

 

[pawprint]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did some research about ammo cost with reloading. These are estimations, you could spend alot more if you use lapua brass or other higher end componets. I reload .308 with remington or winchester brass, 4064 or varget, whatever primers i can find cheap, and 175 smks. Some may consider those sub standard components but they have proven to shoot .3moa consistently. I am also assuming you can get 10 reloads per piece of brass.

300 win mag
brass .10
powder .20
bullets .35
primer .05

1 Reloaded .300 win mag round= .70 cents

Heres my 308 reloading breakdown

308 win
brass .04
powder .14
bullets .30
primer .03

1 reloaded .308 win round= .51 cents




Not a huge difference. </div></div>
You didn't say what bullet your loading with the 300, I assume it is the 190SMK. I see one other "problem", you'll get a lot more than 3 loadings/cartridge brass from the 308, maybe twice as many or more loadings for 308 than you'll get from the 300. The only other difference is barrel life, 308 can get you twice to three times as many rounds fired prior to barrel starting to go, of course it all depends on how you shoot and your load etc., I speaking on average. I've always used as a rule of thumb, it costs me twice as much to fire the 300 than it does the 308, but as of late it's costing about 2.5 times as much, when everything is taken into account. Good luck, 300 win is a great round, you'll love it.

 

[mcginnis101]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HillbillyfromAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright I'll play nice too. Sportsman's Warehouse usually has a Remington 700 in that price range. I don't know about a black barrel but krylon does wonder's on shiny metal. </div></div>
Thank you for playing nice.lol I want to appologize for my lack of knowledge this is my first large caliber rifle. I figure I am going to purchase the rifle them save up for optics, bifold, buzzle brake,etc. Thank you for all your input.

 

[coldboremiracle]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I reload .308 with remington or winchester brass, 4064 or varget, whatever primers i can find cheap, and 175 smks. Some may consider those sub standard components but they have proven to shoot .3moa consistently. </div></div>

I'm in the same boat, nothing wrong with the expensive stuff, but I get 'better than me" results with Winchester,CCI,Hodgedon,and Sierra.
.308 is a great place to start, and you will learn alot with le$$.

 

[HillbillyfromAL]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HillbillyfromAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright I'll play nice too. Sportsman's Warehouse usually has a Remington 700 in that price range. I don't know about a black barrel but krylon does wonder's on shiny metal. </div></div>
Thank you for playing nice.lol I want to appologize for my lack of knowledge this is my first large caliber rifle. I figure I am going to purchase the rifle them save up for optics, bifold, buzzle brake,etc. Thank you for all your input.</div></div>

I would suggest your first step is to read more on this site.

Start Here
Once you have a rifle Join here
By then you'll have changed your mind several times on what you want, and what you expect to accomplish with your first rifle. Good Luck

 

[winxp_man]

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At the budget the Op suggested I dont think he will find a decent 300WM with a Bull Barrel on it. I personally own the Sendoero SF II line in 300WM and love it. Its moa or better with the cheap factory loads. Your best bet is like everyone stated a used one maybe. Now the normal hunting barrel rifle that you can find in that price range.

 

[ORD]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you for playing nice.lol I want to appologize for my lack of knowledge <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">this is my first large caliber rifle.</span></span></span> I figure I am going to purchase the rifle them save up for optics, bifold, buzzle brake,etc. Thank you for all your input. </div></div>

I'm not sure what you mean by "first large caliber rifle," but I can tell you that you are NOT doing yourself any favors at all if this is your first centerfire rifle (not a rimfire) and you are jumping into the .300WM. Cost, recoil...the list goes on and on as to possible "problems" with a new shooter adopting the WM as their first precision rifle. That said...lets approach this topic from a slightly different perspective with some basic questions:

First...what specific experience do you have with centerfire rifles, shooting at ranges of say 600yds+

Second...what ranges are you planning on needing to shoot (min to max for example).

Third...you previously indicated this rifle would be a paper-puncher only. Is that correct? Are you going to be doing anything with it other than paper targets like hunting, comps, etc.?

Finally...do you reload or plan on getting into reloading?

Here are a few specific threads that you ought to read/study that I can think of off hand:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=122227&page=1 - Which rifle/caliber for 600-1k shooting?

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29569#Post29569 - Best long range rifle out to 1300?

Let's start there and go forward. No need to reinvent the wheel here, but I have a feeling that you may be moving in the wrong direction. Plenty of help can be had here to ensure you get something that is well-suited to you, your needs from a rifle, and something on which you can learn/develop your skill sets as precision rifleman.

 

[10thMTN155]

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Hey man, first you need to do what I did or you will be slaughtered on here. Join the site, then spend about two or three months just searching what other people have written. DO NOT JUMP INTO ASKING QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU HAVE DONE THE PROPER SEARCHING AND RESEARCHING. I am just now planning to build a .300 winnie and that is ONLY because I have been shooting other "large caliber rifles" since I was about 6. I am 29 now, and in an Infantry unit, so I can ask questions without getting my effin head cut off. Other advice, DO NOT jump into shooting with a .300 winnie. I'm not sure that you even know actually how powerful that girl is. If you are wanting to shoot out to 500 yrds, do not get one, get a .308. The .300 is a horse, and just this morning, one of my buddies killed someone with one at 810 meters, through a car windshield, so unless you want that kind of power, don't get one. Oh yea, USE THE FREAKING SEARCH BUTTON.

 

[7.62gunr]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HillbillyfromAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smgrendel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look for a Rem 700P bro.
and maybe think about 7.62 will save you some money.</div></div>

I think he means .308win. FFR 7.62 is a bullet diameter and means nothing by it's self. </div></div>
You were ghey enough to actually post a pic of yourself in ACU's?(I assume your not actually mil cuz your not wearing a blouse to show rank)Your railing this guy for calling .308 7.62? Actually 7.62X51 is always referred to as "762" in the military....ass clown.

 

[10thMTN155]

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This is true, so true...hahahahah

 

[MrLebowski]

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Well like others here have said, I don't know your level of experince and your rifles intended uses.

I do own and shoot a custom savage in .300wm for my LR target/what ever is really far away that I want to shoot rig.

One thing I can tell you is that it's expensive to feed, around here the cheapest stuff I can find is $22 a box and nice hunting ammo is $35-45 for a box.

So unless you reload, which I'm going to be starting very soon, you would probably be better off with something a bit cheaper to feed.

That said I love my .300 and it is a great gun if you really need to reach out there and touch something.

Also if you haven't shot one before they kick pretty hard so a break or a heavy gun is nice so you don't develop a flinch.

My gun weighs like 18-20lbs and it still hurts afer I shoot a bunch of rounds in a row from the prone position, from a bench I can go all day.

So you know 1500-2000yds is not unheard of with the .300wm, now you have to have the right gear and driver to make shots like that, but if the max range you plan to go is under 1K you might be better off with a .308 or something a little smaller.

Also if your just punching paper and you want to do it from very far away rifles chambered in 7mm, 6.5mm, & 6mm are great, they don't have as much drop power as the .300 at range but they recoil less and can be cheaper to reload for.

If you reload their are alot of good options for an LR round, like the 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5x47 or 7mm WSM are all good LR rounds.

Another thing I would suggest is to watch the for sale section here until something comes up that peaks your interest.

And start saving up now, cause what you want is always more expensive that what you have to spend.

Oh and watch out this hobby is very addicting & expensive.


One other important word of advice is, you get what you pay for with glass, for the most part, so do you research and get something good the first time around so your not regretting your purchase later.

 

[BobinNC]

Re: First .300 mag

Here a repost of mine for the new guy: Maybe I should post this once a month for new prospective 300 Win Mag Shooters...

There is an old adage:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Crawl before you learn to Walk; Learn to Walk before you Run.
</span>
Now apply it to LR shooting:

Crawling: .223 Rem, .308 Win., 30-06

Walking: .243 Win, 260 Rem. 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47 Lapua, 7mm-08, 284 Win, 280 Rem, et al

Running: AI's on any of those calibers, 7mm SAUM, 7mm WSM, 7mm Rem Mag, <span style="font-weight: bold">300 Win Mag.</span>, et al

Running as fast as your little legs can carry you: 338 Lapua, the Chey-Tac's, 50 BMG, et al

Short cuts, as trying to cut in line, don't work for most folks, and usually result in someone buying your lovingly built rifle at a substantial discount.

Progressing from crawling to walking usually involves learning to reload, and parting with money to a gunsmith/gun builder.

There is an exception to the above rule, as highlighted in bold around 300 Win Mag. You can get a good LR 300 Win Mag, off the self, and there are a number of good factory match loads, so reloading is not a must (but a lot of cash to buy factory is a handy thing to have).

But unless your one of the 10% that is truly "recoil proof", your stay with a 300 Win Mag is usually brief, after several long shot strings. Muzzle brakes help, but generally piss off anybody that has to shoot next to you, so shooting alone a lot is in the cards.

All of this is IMHO, and YMMV, but after 42 years of shooting, I've seen more horror stories than successes, when somebody tries to walk or run, before they learn to crawl. You may be the exception that makes the rule, but I would not bet on it.

Bob

 

[Whit]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BobinNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here a repost of mine for the new guy: Maybe I should post this once a month for new prospective 300 Win Mag Shooters...

<span style="font-weight: bold">There is an old adage:

Crawl before you learn to Walk; Learn to Walk before you Run.
</span>
Now apply it to LR shooting:

Crawling: .223 Rem, .308 Win., 30-06

Walking: .243 Win, 260 Rem. 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47 Lapua, 7mm-08, 284 Win, 280 Rem, et al

Running: AI's on any of those calibers, 7mm SAUM, 7mm WSM, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag., et al

Running as fast as your little legs can carry you: 338 Lapua, the Chey-Tac's, 50 BMG, et al

Short cuts, as trying to cut in line, don't work for most folks, and usually result in someone buying your lovingly built rifle at a substantial discount.

Progressing from crawling to walking usually involves learning to reload, and parting with money to a gunsmith/gun builder.

There is an exception to the above rule, as highlighted in bold around 300 Win Mag. You can get a good LR 300 Win Mag, off the self, and there are a number of good factory match loads, so reloading is not a must (but a lot of cash to buy factory is a handy thing to have).

But unless your one of the 10% that is truly "recoil proof", your stay with a 300 Win Mag is usually brief, after several long shot strings. Muzzle brakes help, but generally piss off anybody that has to shoot next to you, so shooting alone a lot is in the cards.

All of this is IMHO, and YMMV, but after 42 years of shooting, I've seen more horror stories than successes, when somebody tries to walk or run, before they learn to crawl. You may be the exception that makes the rule, but I would not bet on it.

Bob </div></div>

I think Bob nailed it

If you are only going to be punching paper I would recomend a .308 or a .260 (or another 6.5mm bullet based cartridge). A 300 is a awful lot for just punching paper with. It can be punishing if you dont have a brake.
It is also alot harder on barrels also. Maybe someone can chime in and help me with the 300 but the .308 you can get 6000-9000 rounds down the tube before you should have to change the barrel.

 

[MrLebowski]

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Barrel longevity varies greatly on what type of loads you're feeding your rifle.

If you load tward the low/middle end of the recomended powder range then you'll get alot more out of your barrel than some one that's pushing really hot loads.

I don't think it's uncommon to get 10K rounds out of a .308 barrel.

I think the average for the .300wm is down in the 3000 area but I'm not positive, I'm no where near burning up my barrel yet.

If you can afford the ammo to burn one up, then I'd think you could afford the new barrel.

 

[HillbillyfromAL]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7.62gunr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HillbillyfromAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smgrendel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look for a Rem 700P bro.
and maybe think about 7.62 will save you some money.</div></div>

I think he means .308win. FFR 7.62 is a bullet diameter and means nothing by it's self. </div></div>
You were ghey enough to actually post a pic of yourself in ACU's?(I assume your not actually mil cuz your not wearing a blouse to show rank)Your railing this guy for calling .308 7.62? Actually 7.62X51 is always referred to as "762" in the military....ass clown. </div></div>

I guess in all your time in Iraq you never took your top off while bullshitting around with all your friends? Sure people call .308 7.62 and that's fine if you are only dealing with 2 different calibers. Otherwise you need to be more specific. You what you do when assume shit right? So go back to playing Halo boy

 

[mcginnis101]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you for playing nice.lol I want to appologize for my lack of knowledge <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">this is my first large caliber rifle.</span></span></span> I figure I am going to purchase the rifle them save up for optics, bifold, buzzle brake,etc. Thank you for all your input. </div></div>

I'm not sure what you mean by "first large caliber rifle," but I can tell you that you are NOT doing yourself any favors at all if this is your first centerfire rifle (not a rimfire) and you are jumping into the .300WM. Cost, recoil...the list goes on and on as to possible "problems" with a new shooter adopting the WM as their first precision rifle. That said...lets approach this topic from a slightly different perspective with some basic questions:

First...what specific experience do you have with centerfire rifles, shooting at ranges of say 600yds+

Second...what ranges are you planning on needing to shoot (min to max for example).

Third...you previously indicated this rifle would be a paper-puncher only. Is that correct? Are you going to be doing anything with it other than paper targets like hunting, comps, etc.?

Finally...do you reload or plan on getting into reloading?

Here are a few specific threads that you ought to read/study that I can think of off hand:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=122227&page=1 - Which rifle/caliber for 600-1k shooting?

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29569#Post29569 - Best long range rifle out to 1300?

Let's start there and go forward. No need to reinvent the wheel here, but I have a feeling that you may be moving in the wrong direction. Plenty of help can be had here to ensure you get something that is well-suited to you, your needs from a rifle, and something on which you can learn/develop your skill sets as precision rifleman. </div></div>
Ok, I see there is not much tolerence for inexperience here, and for those of you who spared me I would like to say thank you.
I dont know a lot about long range shooting so that is why I have been reading on this forum.
So to answer some of your questions I currently own couple AR-15's .223, Norinco SKS 7.62x39, a 12 gauge, a couple of 9mms, and a .22lr.
Yes i do reload and I'm just getting started so the cost of ammo will not be as bad as eveyone thinks. And yes I have already done my research and basiclly know what is going to cost me to shoot the .300.
I have shot large rifles before(7mm,30-06,.308) so I know about recoil just never owned one.
The reason I dont want to go with a .308 is just a matter of I have a couple buddies that shoot .308 and I dont want to play follow the leader. I dont hunt now so I more than likely will not be hunting with this rifle. More than likely no COMP either just want to be able to go out and shoot long range with others. My distance range I am looking for is anywhere from 600-1000 yards.
I am just looking at getting a base rifle to start. First thing on the list is a muzzle brake, bipod and a limb saver to help off set the almost 9lbs of recoil energy over the .308.
So as much as I have read on here and with your replies to my post maybe I should up my budget a little more and start with a better rifle. I hope this lets you know a little more about me and my intentions.

 

[7.62gunr]

Re: First .300 mag

I had a Howa 1500 ultralight in .300WM. Not only did the gun shoot patterns instead of groups it was VERY brutal to shoot. If you get the wrong .300 WM you will hate shooting it. I have only sold off 3 guns in my life.....all because I hated them: Kel Tec 9mm, Howa in .300 and a CETME that wouldn't feed. I would strongly suggest getting a .308 to start with. .223 is a fine training round for -400m but the .308 is much more realistic.

 

[ORD]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ok, I see there is not much tolerence for inexperience here, and for those of you who spared me I would like to say thank you.
I dont know a lot about long range shooting so that is why I have been reading on this forum.
So to answer some of your questions I currently own couple AR-15's .223, Norinco SKS 7.62x39, a 12 gauge, a couple of 9mms, and a .22lr.
Yes i do reload and I'm just getting started so the cost of ammo will not be as bad as eveyone thinks. And yes I have already done my research and basiclly know what is going to cost me to shoot the .300.
I have shot large rifles before(7mm,30-06,.308) so I know about recoil just never owned one.
The reason I dont want to go with a .308 is just a matter of I have a couple buddies that shoot .308 and I dont want to play follow the leader. I dont hunt now so I more than likely will not be hunting with this rifle. More than likely no COMP either just want to be able to go out and shoot long range with others. My distance range I am looking for is anywhere from 600-1000 yards.
I am just looking at getting a base rifle to start. First thing on the list is a muzzle brake, bipod and a limb saver to help off set the almost 9lbs of recoil energy over the .308.
So as much as I have read on here and with your replies to my post maybe I should up my budget a little more and start with a better rifle. I hope this lets you know a little more about me and my intentions. </div></div>

There is plenty of tolerance despite you getting some friendly "poking" from some folks here. Don't take it personally. Also, threads similar to this one that you have started get posted VERY frequently and many times, end up being 14yr old, acne-faced, Mom/Dad's basement-dwelling trolls who all have two thing in common...everything they know is based on some incorrect crap they got off the Internet somewhere and the closest they have ever come to a firearm was playing Call of Duty (or [Insert Name of Game Here]) on their Playstation.

Back to your original questions then. Since you have already decided on the 300WM since you do NOT want a .308 for the reasons you have stated now, the recommendations for a quality, budget-minded rifle like the Remington 700P/PSS/Police or Sendero still hold true. New if you can scratch together a little more cash, or used in excellent shape/low round count if you can't spend more. I'd say a budget for a decent rifle (just the rifle) should be around $900 new give or take and around $750 give or take used.

As for a scope...as I said before...plan to spend at LEAST what you spent on your rifle for a decent scope. There is an incredible offer from SWFA going on right now for $500 off one of their new 5-20x50 SS units which makes them an incredible bargain at $999. That deal is good for the next month. If you absolutely cannot spend that much, I would look at a fixed power option (since you are just punching holes in paper and don't necessarily need a lower power range for shorter range work/observation/etc.). The SWFA SS 10x, 16x and 20x scopes are all excellent and can be had for a relative bargain starting at only $300. Add a decent base and set of rings (Badger Ord., Seekins, etc.) for a budget of around $200 (look in the PX here on the Hide for good deals on all things "accessory" such as scopes, rings/mounts, bipods, etc.).

For 1k shooting and in...just about any commercial match offering on the market will serve you well until you can get your reloading setup up and running. See if you can find a deal on Federal Gold Medal Match 190gr, Black Hills 190gr, as well as the newer offerings from Mike at Southwest Ammo (a Hide sponsor...look around here for more info). Ammo also comes up for good prices in the Px as well.

Barrel threading and a muzzle brake can all be had from any number of different smiths here on the Hide. I'd skip the recoil pad for now as the one that comes on the HS Precision stocks of the 700P and Sendero isn't bad. The brake will do more to assist you with recoil than the buttpad anyway.

Again...keep your eyes on the items that come up for sale here. Also, take a good read through past posts on people looking to build "budget" rifles. They are numerous and include some specifics on 300WM builds. Plenty of good "pointers" and ideas for builds to be found.

 

[KLambert05]

Re: First .300 mag

Just so you know, the kick on a 300 is much much worse than a 308 or similar round. I'm 6'1, 245 pounds and not a lot of fat, so a fairly big guy, and i shot 10 rounds through my old 300 win mag rem 700 bdl a few weekends ago from the prone position and my shoulder killed me for the rest of the day. Thats shooting 150 grain nosler ballistic tips, so its not even a big round. its also a light weight gun, so that doesnt help either. And its not a bull barrel. But i will say that you need to shoot one first before spending the money. It is overkill for a lot of shooting unless your doing big game hunting or real long range shooting. Mine was handed down to me, otherwise I probably wouldnt own something that big. So just think about it, it truly isnt a pleasant gun to just go shoot with until you put some real money behind it

 

[Chili47]

Re: First .300 mag

I just got a 300 in a mcmillian stock same recoil as my .243

 

[KLambert05]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tatertot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got a 300 in a mcmillian stock same recoil as my .243
</div></div>

That stock probably takes up most of his budget though, theres not a lot to work with in that price range for such a big rifle.

 

[George63]

Re: First .300 mag

realistic min $ for a .300 for 600-1000 yd shooting, 600-1000 for scope, and 2000 for rifle, reloading setup and odds + ends

 

[mcginnis101]

Re: First .300 mag

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ok, I see there is not much tolerence for inexperience here, and for those of you who spared me I would like to say thank you.
I dont know a lot about long range shooting so that is why I have been reading on this forum.
So to answer some of your questions I currently own couple AR-15's .223, Norinco SKS 7.62x39, a 12 gauge, a couple of 9mms, and a .22lr.
Yes i do reload and I'm just getting started so the cost of ammo will not be as bad as eveyone thinks. And yes I have already done my research and basiclly know what is going to cost me to shoot the .300.
I have shot large rifles before(7mm,30-06,.308) so I know about recoil just never owned one.
The reason I dont want to go with a .308 is just a matter of I have a couple buddies that shoot .308 and I dont want to play follow the leader. I dont hunt now so I more than likely will not be hunting with this rifle. More than likely no COMP either just want to be able to go out and shoot long range with others. My distance range I am looking for is anywhere from 600-1000 yards.
I am just looking at getting a base rifle to start. First thing on the list is a muzzle brake, bipod and a limb saver to help off set the almost 9lbs of recoil energy over the .308.
So as much as I have read on here and with your replies to my post maybe I should up my budget a little more and start with a better rifle. I hope this lets you know a little more about me and my intentions. </div></div>

There is plenty of tolerance despite you getting some friendly "poking" from some folks here. Don't take it personally. Also, threads similar to this one that you have started get posted VERY frequently and many times, end up being 14yr old, acne-faced, Mom/Dad's basement-dwelling trolls who all have two thing in common...everything they know is based on some incorrect crap they got off the Internet somewhere and the closest they have ever come to a firearm was playing Call of Duty (or [Insert Name of Game Here]) on their Playstation.

Back to your original questions then. Since you have already decided on the 300WM since you do NOT want a .308 for the reasons you have stated now, the recommendations for a quality, budget-minded rifle like the Remington 700P/PSS/Police or Sendero still hold true. New if you can scratch together a little more cash, or used in excellent shape/low round count if you can't spend more. I'd say a budget for a decent rifle (just the rifle) should be around $900 new give or take and around $750 give or take used.

As for a scope...as I said before...plan to spend at LEAST what you spent on your rifle for a decent scope. There is an incredible offer from SWFA going on right now for $500 off one of their new 5-20x50 SS units which makes them an incredible bargain at $999. That deal is good for the next month. If you absolutely cannot spend that much, I would look at a fixed power option (since you are just punching holes in paper and don't necessarily need a lower power range for shorter range work/observation/etc.). The SWFA SS 10x, 16x and 20x scopes are all excellent and can be had for a relative bargain starting at only $300. Add a decent base and set of rings (Badger Ord., Seekins, etc.) for a budget of around $200 (look in the PX here on the Hide for good deals on all things "accessory" such as scopes, rings/mounts, bipods, etc.).

For 1k shooting and in...just about any commercial match offering on the market will serve you well until you can get your reloading setup up and running. See if you can find a deal on Federal Gold Medal Match 190gr, Black Hills 190gr, as well as the newer offerings from Mike at Southwest Ammo (a Hide sponsor...look around here for more info). Ammo also comes up for good prices in the Px as well.

Barrel threading and a muzzle brake can all be had from any number of different smiths here on the Hide. I'd skip the recoil pad for now as the one that comes on the HS Precision stocks of the 700P and Sendero isn't bad. The brake will do more to assist you with recoil than the buttpad anyway.

Again...keep your eyes on the items that come up for sale here. Also, take a good read through past posts on people looking to build "budget" rifles. They are numerous and include some specifics on 300WM builds. Plenty of good "pointers" and ideas for builds to be found. </div></div>
Thank you for your input. I am going to search for budget builds now to see what I can find. Thanks again

 

[KLambert05]

Re: First .300 mag

Well since it seems that your set in what you want, here is what I would do. Buy a bottom end savage, ($300ish) decent stock ($300ish) muzzel brake (150) and new trigger (125). or the savage specialty series 111 long range hunter. both are viable options and what I would do. But im a fan of savage. On the first part, everything without the muzzel brake is within your price range, then get that added on later. It won't be a super good rifle straight away, but savage actions are very good and you can upgrade parts down the road as you see fit.

and also maybe look at 300 WSM. I dont know if you looked at something like that as a viable option