First US Muslim Judge found dead in Hudson River

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    I dont care for her cult and dont know anything about her politics, probably stinkingly liberal, but this is not the way to do things. While the article does not specifically state 'homicide' I cant imagine she would go for a swim in the Hudson, especially clothed.

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    United States' first female Muslim judge found dead in Hudson River


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    (Reuters) - A groundbreaking black jurist who became the first Muslim woman to serve as a U.S. judge was found dead in New York's Hudson River on Wednesday, police said.

    Sheila Abdus-Salaam, a 65-year-old associate judge of New York's highest court, was found floating off Manhattan's west side at about 1:45 p.m. EDT (1545 GMT), a police spokesman said.

    Police pulled Abdus-Salaam's fully clothed body from the water and she was pronounced dead at the scene. Her family identified her and an autopsy would determine the cause of death, the spokesman said.

    Abdus-Salaam, a native of Washington, D.C., became the first African-American woman appointed to the Court of Appeals when Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo named her to the state's high court in 2013.

    "Justice Sheila Abdus-Salaam was a trailblazing jurist whose life in public service was in pursuit of a more fair and more just New York for all," Cuomo said in a statement.

    The Princeton Encyclopedia of American Political History said Abdus-Salaam was the first female Muslim to serve as a U.S. judge.

    Citing unidentified sources, the New York Post reported that Abdus-Salaam had been reported missing from her New York home earlier on Wednesday. Attempts to reach her family were unsuccessful.

    A graduate of Barnard College and Columbia Law School, Abdus-Salaam started her law career with East Brooklyn Legal Services and served as a New York state assistant attorney general, according to the Court of Appeals website.

    She held a series of judicial posts after being elected to a New York City judgeship in 1991.
     
    Just assuming someone killed her...

    If it was robbery, no one will care.
    If it was the mob, no one will care.
    If it was an honor killing, it will never be reported.
    If it was some "crazy right-wing whitey", there will be hand wringing on the news for months.
     
    Just assuming someone killed her...

    If it was robbery, no one will care.
    If it was the mob, no one will care.
    If it was an honor killing, it will never be reported.
    If it was some "crazy right-wing whitey", there will be hand wringing on the news for months.

    ...because it's so much worse to be murdered for one reason, and the victim is so much "deader".

    To reference mcameron's post along with yours, the hand-wringing over whitey is likely to ensue regardless of any reason.
     
    why is it if your muslim your religion is brought into everything...

    This is what religion in todays time is like.

    If you are christian then you need to shut up, take down everything that resembles religion, and die already. But if you are Muslim then lets get celebrities doing the bent over kneeling prayer and all of a sudden you are a complete piece of shit if you don't like Muslims or something with their religion but fuck Christians.

    oh and the lady in the river thing. Hudson sounds like a white name so it was white peoples fault.
     
    This is what religion in todays time is like.

    If you are christian then you need to shut up, take down everything that resembles religion, and die already. But if you are Muslim then lets get celebrities doing the bent over kneeling prayer and all of a sudden you are a complete piece of shit if you don't like Muslims or something with their religion but fuck Christians.

    oh and the lady in the river thing. Hudson sounds like a white name so it was white peoples fault.

    I find it best to treat ALL religions as cults. There is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and then there is how men WITH FINITE LIMITED MINDS interpret the truth.

    Avoid the cults, seek the truth.
     
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    I find it best to treat ALL religions as cults. There is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and then there is how men WITH FINITE LIMITED MINDS interpret the truth.

    Avoid the cults, seek the truth.

    always seeking the truth but still find it pathetic how one religion cannot do wrong and another is so bad that we dont say its name to not offend someone.
     
    I find it best to treat ALL religions as cults. There is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH and then there is how men WITH FINITE LIMITED MINDS interpret the truth.

    Avoid the cults, seek the truth.

    I think Indiana Jones covered this quite nicely: "I deal in facts, not truth. If you're looking for truth, the philosophy class is down the hall."

    Not a verbatim quote.
     
    a ground breaking black jurist who became the first muslim woman to serve as u s judge...
    bringing attention to black, muslim, woman...
    this is the problem, our society is still segregated,
    none of those adjectives should have anything to do with the tragedy of the womans death, until it is found, she was indeed killed for one of them...
     
    a ground breaking black jurist who became the first muslim woman to serve as u s judge...
    bringing attention to black, muslim, woman...
    this is the problem, our society is still segregated,
    none of those adjectives should have anything to do with the tragedy of the womans death, until it is found, she was indeed killed for one of them...

    Exactly. Race/gender is only brought up by those who feel they have something to benefit by claiming "racism" or "sexism", I have nothing against other races, but apparently they say I do because I don't believe everything they believe, and look at statistics when it comes to prison populations and murder rates... Oh well, at least I still have my white male privilege.
     
    a ground breaking black jurist who became the first muslim woman to serve as u s judge...
    bringing attention to black, muslim, woman...
    this is the problem, our society is still segregated,
    none of those adjectives should have anything to do with the tragedy of the womans death, until it is found, she was indeed killed for one of them...

    I wanna know who hijacked oneshots account. ;)
    Jimmy is hitting Home Runs like a boss. You're on fire Brother. Nice job. I like it.
     
    I think Indiana Jones covered this quite nicely: "I deal in facts, not truth. If you're looking for truth, the philosophy class is down the hall."

    Not a verbatim quote.

    Indiana was a bit off in his statement.

    My degree is in philosophy, which means "The love of wisdom. While some eastern philosophies deal with 'mystical' things, western philosophy is pretty much dedicated to factual, repeatable, experience. Ludwig Wittgenstein, for instance, states in his Tractatus Logico Philisophicus, the following (first quote below). You might enjoy reading it.

    Jefferson, the founder of UVA, said "We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead.". So facts only lead to the truth, and the truth illuminates the reality of the facts. Second quote below.

    - [h=3]Proposition 1[edit][/h]
    The first chapter is very brief:
    1 The world is all that is the case.
    1.1 The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
    1.11 The world is determined by the facts, and by their being all the facts.
    1.12 For the totality of facts determines what is the case, and also whatever is not the case.
    1.13 The facts in logical space are the world.
    1.2 The world divides into facts.
    1.21 Each item can be the case or not the case while everything else remains the same.

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    [h=3]Follow Truth (Quotation) | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello[/h] https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/follow-truth-quotation
    "This institution will be based on the illimitable freedom of the human mind. For here we are not afraid tofollow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any ...​
     
    I'll spare the space on the requote, but Maggot those quotes are the reason I dropped my Philosophy curriculum and found an acceptable substitute. That type of thinking/reasoning (Wittgenstein, not yours) may as well be Calculus to me: I will never understand either of them, but I have more faith that Calculus governs my world.
     
    I'll spare the space on the requote, but Maggot those quotes are the reason I dropped my Philosophy curriculum and found an acceptable substitute. That type of thinking/reasoning (Wittgenstein, not yours) may as well be Calculus to me: I will never understand either of them, but I have more faith that Calculus governs my world.

    Its obtuse. Probably why I love it.;) I got 42 credits in philosophy for my BA.
     
    I don't care for her cult and dont know anything about her politics, probably stinkingly liberal, but this is not the way to do things. While the article does not specifically state 'homicide' I cant imagine she would go for a swim in the Hudson, especially clothed.

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    That is a damned shame, she looked like a nice lady. Mag; Not feeling very good about the motive, if it was indeed a murder.
     
    It was most likely an honor killing. Muslim women can't be judges.

    Westernized Muslim women are very different than Middle Eastern ones. I'm thinking that gender, race, and religion had nothing to do with this and this was a simple murder done by a nutcase who probably got sentenced for something by her when she was alive and they got their revenge on her. Course that's just my thoughts. We all know the media will have a whole different spin on it.
     
    Westernized Muslim women are very different than Middle Eastern ones. I'm thinking that gender, race, and religion had nothing to do with this and this was a simple murder done by a nutcase who probably got sentenced for something by her when she was alive and they got their revenge on her. Course that's just my thoughts. We all know the media will have a whole different spin on it.
    My thoughts as well regarding some convict getting even with her. That is the most likely scenario in my mind. On the other hand, who is to say that a more traditional Muslim didn't kill her out of religious fanaticism?

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    Westernized Muslim women are very different than Middle Eastern ones. I'm thinking that gender, race, and religion had nothing to do with this and this was a simple murder done by a nutcase who probably got sentenced for something by her when she was alive and they got their revenge on her. Course that's just my thoughts. We all know the media will have a whole different spin on it.

    So what you are saying it wasn't a westernized Muslim man that preformed the honor killing. Maybe a radicalized Syrian refugee that did it? I'm going with that until I hear different.
     
    So what you are saying it wasn't a westernized Muslim man that preformed the honor killing. Maybe a radicalized Syrian refugee that did it? I'm going with that until I hear different.

    No, the important part he's pointing out is she fucked someone over when she was still alive, not when she was dead.
    Jesus Fucking Christ it doesn't stop......... :confused:
     
    Behold the field in which I grow my fucks........

    PPB for the win. It is Easter. Time to celebrate.

    As for this, its one of a bunch of dead people every day. She had an axe to grind and it fell back on her for some reason.
    Time for a cold beer, just hammered out 14 hrs between work and projects at the house.....
     
    So what you are saying it wasn't a westernized Muslim man that preformed the honor killing. Maybe a radicalized Syrian refugee that did it? I'm going with that until I hear different.

    I'm simply saying in not so many words that it could have been any number of things. Sure, there's a possibility that it was a radicalized Muslim, but there's any number of other possibilities. Hell, it could have been a botched car jacking or robbery attempt. The media right away goes to a hate crime because right now that's where the ratings are. Dead bodies show up in rivers everyday.
     
    Oh god help me and hold my hand through this minefield, but once again I'm in the alternate universe of agreeing with Maser. FML!!!!!!!

    This shit happened where? NYC? The odds that the murder of a black woman in NYC was about anything other than "bidness as usual" is the outside probability, I guess the good news is that with Barry no longer living in public housing on Pennsylvania Ave, we may possibly hear the word "Islam" if the offender was indeed thus motivated.
     
    Oh god help me and hold my hand through this minefield, but once again I'm in the alternate universe of agreeing with Maser. FML!!!!!!!

    This shit happened where? NYC? The odds that the murder of a black woman in NYC was about anything other than "bidness as usual" is the outside probability, I guess the good news is that with Barry no longer living in public housing on Pennsylvania Ave, we may possibly hear the word "Islam" if the offender was indeed thus motivated.

    Fingers crossed you get thru this.;)
     
    Evidently one Black Life that didn't matter to the perp. if it was a perp. . Maybe she was being Baptized and it went all wrong , trying out a new water proof make up foundation , testing her Gortex panties , selfie stick accident , VerticalHyrdoKineticly challenged or may the water was shiny .
     
    Behold the field in which I grow my fucks........

    PPB for the win. It is Easter. Time to celebrate.

    As for this, its one of a bunch of dead people every day. She had an axe to grind and it fell back on her for some reason.
    Time for a cold beer, just hammered out 14 hrs between work and projects at the house.....

    Time to avoid my SMIL's horrendous cooking and six hours of highway. Indian buffet, it is.

     
    I guess if a tenth grader has a lot of people picking on them it could lead to sucide, and those people might bear some responsibility. I'm having a lot of trouble seeing how this would carry over to an accomplished adult professional with people who disagree with their political decisions. As a matter of fact I dont believe it. People do suffer from depression sometimes they can't deal with it.