Flood gates getting opened turning the USA into California

[ArmyJerry]

Good job Trump. This fuking gy selling our the country. He was the last hope that our laws would be enforced. He is a goddam LIAR just like the rest of these shit birds. Art of the deal my ass, this guy sucks.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...izenship-for-1-8-million-in-us-illegally.html

 

[Arc Light]

It's the risk we took voting for a guy with zero core beliefs and convictions. I'm pissed that he would blatantly break his main campaign promise, the primary reason he was elected. Why the fuck is he even wasting a single minute worrying about illegals? I'll tell you why. Because he thinks this will get him adoration from the media which he craves. The dumbass doesn't seem to realize they will still loathe him just as much, maybe more. Meanwhile he pisses off the base that he needs to be re-elected in 2020. Let's hope the House of Reps holds firm on this. And just so that I'm crystal clear where I stand: fuck illegals, fuck the "Dreamers", and fuck Trump too.

 

[Rthur]

I'm hoping that this is an offer that he knows the dems will never accept.
I'm also of the opinion that any of the illegals shouldn't get amnesty.
This would include the ones that have been here for years dodging the system that could have started long ago to become citizens.
Their intent is obvious and we don't need them.

R

 

[cottonant]

 

[myronman3]

i have no idea what you are refering to, but that last time i heard folks squawking about this, was when he sat down with the morons and didnt kick the press out. he made fools out of them all. so far, he's doing great.

 

[myronman3]

oh for fucks sake.....you guys have to be shitting me. THAT is what has you all worked up? lighten up, francis. good grief.

 

[myronman3]

havent you learned yet, that he may just be yanking their chains.....yet again? he's made fuckign fools out of them repeatedly. at what point do you start to have a little confidence in him?

i mean, i realize as conservatives, we've been sold out so many times it's next to impossible to believe someone might actually be running rings around the fucksticks who have been destroying this country for so long, but damn. it's been a year....and look at what he has done. yall need to turn off the news and stop letting it drive you bongo.

 

[fdkay]

My wife is an immigrant that came here legally. I remember having to sign a document stating that she would not become a burden on society.
I have no sympathy for illegals that get deported, whether it breaks up the family or not.
However, I am also a realist that lives in a border state, not terribly far from the border.
You can't expect to deport every single illegal, especially those brought here by their parents.
I do, however, believe that those pieces of shit that fly the mexican flag and burn the US flag during demonstrations should be placed at the front of the line for deportation.
The fact that he will end chain migration and increase border security will help to take care of alot of this mess.

 

[FS1]

I would rather Trump make a deal that keeps it from happening again, even if the dreamers get a bit. No deal the border stays porous and it only gets worse. So how bout a bit of common sense. I Trust Trump to get it done.

 

[eicas]

He’s been playing the Left like a fiddle, beating them at their own game. I’m going to let him keep playing cards since it appears he does that quite well too.

If he would have lost, this Country would have been gone already. As it stands, we still have a bit to go yet Thank God.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Thats what reagan said, thus the title of this thread, Reagan doomed Cali with his amnesty with promises of a wall new laws, E verify etc that are roundly ignored today. they rolled reagan and they are rolling Trump, I actually think both Reagan and Trump are both closet lefties , they both want the public to love them instead of enforcing current laws on the books, that is the original sin that is dooming us. Reagan not only flooded the country with illegals, he also did the most damage to our right to own guns than any democrat.

I would rather Trump make a deal that keeps it from happening again, even if the dreamers get a bit. No deal the border stays porous and it only gets worse. So how bout a bit of common sense. I Trust Trump to get it done.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

There are illegals in this country an they are debating weither they should go back? Think about that for a second!

 

[FS1]

Thats what reagan said, thus the title of this thread, Reagan doomed Cali with his amnesty with promises of a wall new laws, E verify etc that are roundly ignored today. they rolled reagan and they are rolling Trump, I actually think both Reagan and Trump are both closet lefties , they both want the public to love them instead of enforcing current laws on the books, that is the original sin that is dooming us. Reagan not only flooded the country with illegals, he also did the most damage to our right to own guns than any democrat.

Trump ain't Regan. You can either solve the problem or not. I am on the side of solving. But I do understand your point. BTW I do believe Regan caught a bullet. That may have affected his thinking.

 

[ArmyJerry]

No reagan was apussy, he let our jarheads get fuking killed and lobbed a few 16 inch shells into beirut, he let us Army peeps get killed in berlin and bombed a tent, he was a pussy. I blame him for not wiping out the City of beirut for causing the problems we have in teh ME today. Catching a bullet means nothing. He gave amnesty to millions who got clinton and obama elected. Think about that and think how damaging it will be this time.

 

[FS1]

No reagan was apussy, he let our jarheads get fuking killed and lobbed a few 16 inch shells into beirut, he let us Army peeps get killed in berlin and bombed a tent, he was a pussy. I blame him for not wiping out the City of beirut for causing the problems we have in teh ME today. Catching a bullet means nothing. He gave amnesty to millions who got clinton and obama elected. Think about that and think how damaging it will be this time.

Trump ain't Reagan...Oh I already said that.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I am saying both are willingly getting rolled. Period,

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Ray-Gun was the leading cause we have so many tangos today. There is a strong message in the movie "Charlie Wilson's war" an in the credits the statement "We fucked up the end game" is so true that it's not even funny. Ray-Gun could not see past his nose when it came to dealing with the issues in A-stan back then. He was just a look at what I done guy, well we/I seen what he kick started on 9/11 an the MIC has keep in place there after.

 

[_Windrider_]

i think Trump put an offer out the Dems will never accept. That will allow the him to then use it against the dems by showing the hispanic voters that it was him who offered the path and your so called protectors that doomed you.

hopefully, the dems don't call his bluff, but even if they do, Trump still gets the win because it was him who made the offer.

Its gamesmanship. Honestly though at this point, the wall is more important and in the end we are only talking about people who were brought here as children who did not have any choice in the matter. but there should be conditions. You cant vote and you commit a felony you are gone.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Deporting the 20 million is more important than the wall.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Cut government welfare and they will self deport.

 

[_Windrider_]

Deporting the 20 million is more important than the wall.

yes and no. but we are talking about only what, 1.8 million of those 20. at least if the wall is built, when those other 17.3 hopefully get theirs, it will be harder to come back. problem with deporting everyone is where do you send them when a) their own country wont accept them, b) they wont tell you where they are from, and c) its way more expensive than the wall to do it. im am in no way for amnesty. but at some point the scale of the problem becomes unsolvable. Give them TIN's and at a minimum get the tax revenue. thosoe that dont get the TIN, get deported immediately but at least that provides a record of who they are and doesnt give them citizenship but allows us to get the revenue.

 

[ArmyJerry]

deport the 20 million then we can talk about the 700 thousand , there are millions waiting in the line legally. Countrie that don't take their citizens back get all business and travel cancelled to the USA. I have ridden the whole border between the two countries, a wall is not the answer, and not possible on 2/3rd of the border, and in fact does not matter the next time you have a democrat or another republican like trump and bush who refuse to enforce the current law. Lets enforce the current laws on the books currently, lets cut off all welfare and benefits, enforce employment las and the problem will self fix.. The wall is an excuse and a laser on the wall for not enforcing current law.

 

[FS1]

Make it a Felony to hire them and they will self Deport. After stealing what they can. But That deal will never be done. The wall will happen.

 

[_Windrider_]

deport the 20 million then we can talk about the 700 thousand , there are millions waiting in the line legally. Countrie that don't take their citizens back get all business and travel cancelled to the USA. I have ridden the whole border between the two countries, a wall is not the answer, and not possible on 2/3rd of the border, and in fact does not matter the next time you have a democrat or another republican like trump and bush who refuse to enforce the current law. Lets enforce the current laws on the books currently, lets cut off all welfare and benefits, enforce employment las and the problem will self fix.. The wall is an excuse and a laser on the wall for not enforcing current law.

i agree on the wall, i feel its more a metaphor. the wall is exactly what you said and more security at the border. personally we should be using the national guard if not active military to protect the southern border. i got nothing but respect for the border patrol, but because they are not military, they are limited on the technology and methods they can use. we are probably one of the few countries that DOESNT use their military to secure their border.

 

[Danrobberg]

If the illegals get the right to vote you can say bye bye to a conservative president ever again. They will flip Texas blue in a short time and no conservative can win without Texas.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

1.8 million could be a few electoral college votes in a time when every single one counts. No Amnesty!
If Trump passes an amnesty bill, the Republicans will not win the white house in 2020...period...with or without the 1.8 million.

 

[QuickNDirty]

i think Trump put an offer out the Dems will never accept. That will allow the him to then use it against the dems by showing the hispanic voters that it was him who offered the path and your so called protectors that doomed you.

hopefully, the dems don't call his bluff, but even if they do, Trump still gets the win because it was him who made the offer.

Its gamesmanship. Honestly though at this point, the wall is more important and in the end we are only talking about people who were brought here as children who did not have any choice in the matter. but there should be conditions. You cant vote and you commit a felony you are gone.

Bingo. You won that round.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/26/trump-immigration-proposal-chuck-schumer-371139

 

[Flyingbullseye]

If an illegal gets deported back to their country and that country doesn't want to accept them what then? Does that home country have a choice if we just shove the person out of the aircraft or toss them overboard onto the dock and leave what then? I don't understand how another country can stop us if we do a drive by here's your citizen back and keep on going.

If anything just chopper them across the border and toss them out feet first at 35ft. Won't kill the person but will make it a heck of a lot harder to come back.

 

[ArmyJerry]

stop all trade and flights with said country, see how long that denial lasts

 

[FS1]

Most Country’s take em back.

You all have great ideas on dealing with it but I am trying to stay rooted somewhere in the possible and effective.

If Trump solves this and he will. Then he will have them voting for him. To a Dem that’s Armageddon. The Dems think they own them like slaves. Never get between a Dem and their slaves. We know how that story ends.

 

[_Windrider_]

Most Country’s take em back.

You all have great ideas on dealing with it but I am trying to stay rooted somewhere in the possible and effective.

If Trump solves this and he will. Then he will have them voting for him. To a Dem that’s Armageddon. The Dems think they own them like slaves. Never get between a Dem and their slaves. We know how that story ends.

So true.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Same sht was said abut regan, look at Cali, it did not happen, this is the end of our republic if he does anything other than what he promised. we will look like Cali does in two election cycles. You will long for the Obama presidency.

Most Country’s take em back.

You all have great ideas on dealing with it but I am trying to stay rooted somewhere in the possible and effective.

If Trump solves this and he will. Then he will have them voting for him. To a Dem that’s Armageddon. The Dems think they own them like slaves. Never get between a Dem and their slaves. We know how that story ends.

So true.

 

[The King]

Eh. I would rather solve this big time.

A). Take mexicos sovereignty. They fucked it up so bad and they send us their revolutionaries in reality. It takes courage to come here and be an illegal. Courage and rage at your situation make both illegal immigrants AND revolutionaries.

B). Have the conservatives invest big in making Mexico whole again. Win them as our votes for once by rebuilding Mexico similar to Japan after WWII.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Eh. I would rather solve this big time.

A). Take mexicos sovereignty. They fucked it up so bad and they send us their revolutionaries in reality. It takes courage to come here and be an illegal. Courage and rage at your situation make both illegal immigrants AND revolutionaries.

B). Have the conservatives invest big in making Mexico whole again. Win them as our votes for once by rebuilding Mexico similar to Japan after WWII.

But after the war, Japan produced goods that the Western World wanted.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I’d rather take the top half of Mexico and make it new New Mexico as compensation for all the govenment benefits expended on their poor they exported., I have o good will toward any rich or middle class in Mexico, they export their poor instead of making in’s Mexico Great, take the northern states.

Eh. I would rather solve this big time.

A). Take mexicos sovereignty. They fucked it up so bad and they send us their revolutionaries in reality. It takes courage to come here and be an illegal. Courage and rage at your situation make both illegal immigrants AND revolutionaries.

B). Have the conservatives invest big in making Mexico whole again. Win them as our votes for once by rebuilding Mexico similar to Japan after WWII.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Eh. I would rather solve this big time.

A). Take mexicos sovereignty. They fucked it up so bad and they send us their revolutionaries in reality. It takes courage to come here and be an illegal. Courage and rage at your situation make both illegal immigrants AND revolutionaries.

B). Have the conservatives invest big in making Mexico whole again. Win them as our votes for once by rebuilding Mexico similar to Japan after WWII.

Well we may get tired of playing the sandbox.
Regime change in Mexico could be fun
If you were to get rid of the Mexican Government and take it over, slaughter all the drug cartels, corrupt cops, corrupt military, criminals etc., you could make Mexico into a great 52nd state.... (51st is already spoken for).

 

[ArmyJerry]

End of teh day Trunp aint deporting shit, he is going to give out amnesty, he is a POS.

 

[ArmyJerry]

How do you know they were bought here "against their will"? Fact is, you dont , you have a weak mind and have been conditioned, willingly or "against your will" by the MSM, or your own stupidity into thinking its okay for foreigners to invade our country demand benefits, cut line in front of millions trying to immigrate legally and demand special treatment while 80+ percent these criminals suck our welfare system dry. .Sorry buddy, they are still illegal. they gotta go, get over yourself jackass.We have our own poor we need to look after.

The 1.8 million were brought here as children against their will and have spent the majority of their life in the United States. They are more American than they are Mexican. Get over yourselves.

 

[Rthur]

The 1.8 million were brought here as children against their will and have spent the majority of their life in the United States. They are more American than they are Mexican. Get over yourselves.

Who brought them here?
As they are probably adults by now the travel will be less traumatic.
DACA was an unconstitutional move by Obozo.
If you are upset about their plight send your vitriol to the man who started this fucked up mess "Obama".

R

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

How do you know they were bought here "against their will"? Fact is, you dont , you have a weak mind and have been conditioned, willingly or "against your will" by the MSM, or your own stupidity into thinking its okay for foreigners to invade our country demand benefits, cut line in front of millions trying to immigrate legally and demand special treatment while 80+ percent these criminals suck our welfare system dry. .Sorry buddy, they are still illegal. they gotta go, get over yourself jackass.We have our own poor we need to look after.

Let's see...because when you are an infant or minor, and your parents say "We are moving over here" you don't exactly have a choice. It's not exactly rocket science or an evil MSM brainwashing scheme.

Are they stealing all of your jobs or all of your welfare? Or do you just hate taco trucks?

 

[ArmyJerry]

dam, pretty racist to assume they all run taco trucks, man, wtf is wrong with you? Very few support themselves like they would if they were here as legal immigrants, their crime stats are double citizen rates, they welfare is 4 times more, we have our own poor to look after. As far as taking my job, not likely, I am very wealthy and dont need to be employed by others. I do worry about my fellow countrymen that are not as fortunate as me and have to compete with dam near slave labor being illegally imported from 3rd world shitholes. Lets take care of our own poor. Fk the foreigners, they need to take care of themselves.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

dam, pretty racist to assume they all run taco trucks, man, wtf is wrong with you? Very few support themselves like they would if they were here as legal immigrants, their crime stats are double citizen rates, they welfare is 4 times more, we have our own poor to look after. As far as taking my job, not likely, I am very wealthy and dont need to be employed by others. I do worry about my fellow countrymen that are not as fortunate as me and have to compete with dam near slave labor being illegally imported from 3rd world shitholes. Lets take care of our own poor. Fk the foreigners, they need to take care of themselves.

Normally I would link to something other than RealAmericanConservativeNews.com with actual evidence that migrants are less likely to commit crimes, contribute to the economy, and pay taxes, but something tells me you would deny reality, cry fake news, and retreat into your Safe Space.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Actually its from a Harvard study and FBI crime stats so it could be questionable, less so than your wishful delusional ramblings though.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

Actually its from a Harvard study and FBI crime stats so it could be questionable, less so than your wishful delusional ramblings though.

Which Harvard study? The one that shows illegal immigrants increase American GDP by 395 to 472 billion dollars?

 

[ArmyJerry]

You are IQ challenged aint ya, morning Joe is on go watch them.

 

[FS1]

Which Harvard study? The one that shows illegal immigrants increase American GDP by 395 to 472 billion dollars?

So for a 77 Billion increase in GDP we spend 113 Billion a year in costs to keep them. Sounds like Liberal Math to me. Spend a buck to make a dime. No wonder we have 20 trillion in debt? Liberals suck at math.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Just imagine how many poor Americans we could send to private schools instead of paying for poor foreign invaders to milk our system. I understand you are more worried about foreign poor people, you should join a church and go volunteer in latin america, and teach them all about US Law.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...f-illegal-immigration-to-taxpayers-is-growing.

Which Harvard study? The one that shows illegal immigrants increase American GDP by 395 to 472 billion dollars?

 

[FS1]

Liberal have destroyed our schools. When I was kid and your teacher called your parents? You got in trouble. Now when that happens the Teacher gets in trouble.

How can that end well?

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

So for a 77 Billion increase in GDP we spend 113 Billion a year in costs to keep them. Sounds like Liberal Math to me. Spend a buck to make a dime. No wonder we have 20 trillion in debt? Liberals suck at math.

395 billion is Harvards low estimate and 475 billion is their high one. It's not a subtraction problem.

 

[FS1]

395 billion is Harvards low estimate and 475 billion is their high one. It's not a subtraction problem.

They cost more than they produce. I love seeing them protest against trump giving them more than dems ever did. That will end well.