Hey everybody!, Regular guy diving hard into the training arena.Ill be very honest as I have nothing to lose, I don't really NEED a high end LPVO, I want one.I reached a point in my life that I can afford a really decent scope. I have spent the last couple years reading and watching as much as possible on the topic and I have trained with someone that has extensive experience that certainly has influenced my direction. Ill admit, Im very easily distracted by bright shiny objects, but since I can't get any of these options in hand easily I have to rely on my conversations here and elsewhere to decide. This is for a 12.5 AR. A defense weapon with the option to be intentionally accurate out to say 400 yards. Given some of what Ive read here that that is Childs play for many. Also ,however unlikely that a scenario requiring an AR would occur, besides having to take no fail shots at 300+, I still want to own and experience high end optics. Glad to be here.