Have bought multiple cans through my trust. Have never had a denial issue because it was a trust over an individual.
Curious how you know when it’s assigned?
Honestly not sure, only way I know of is by calling and asking. They only replay with yes, no and i don’t know when asking questions over the phone
And get what information? I did last week and all I got was “received” and “pending”
I was surprised the last time I called (I usually don't bother with it). Let's say your 'trip in jail' lasts 9 months. It will be classified as 'received' for 8 of them. 'Pending' means it has been assigned to an inspector. Me, I hate the idea that it sat for all that time, yet the inspector only needed 30 days to approve/disapprove. But then I don't stress this thing. The money has been paid, the item is in limbo, the gov't is 'working' on it. What can I do to make it happen faster?? Nothing. Never even think about it until 6 months after its been submitted. Do I want it sooner? Sure, but its guberment work!
I count 20 RPQ forms in your picture. Did you do all 20 of them on one traditional trust or 20 individual trusts? If you did them all on a traditional trust there is a high chance you will get batch approved (see my previous posts from the last month). If you submitted as single item trusts there is no evidence of that happening. The minimum number batch approved on a traditional trust posted on Reddit is six or more.B&T VP9 silencer
Stamp submitted: July 06, 2022
Stamp receiver: April 30, 2023
Total processing time: 298 days
Still waiting on a bunch of silencers and SBR's, all on Eform 4. This is all my paperwork from November 2022 to current. I have more items than these waiting for stamps at my FFL, I just don't have that paperwork in front of me right now. Does anyone know if they've been batch processing the Eform 4's? Last year I got back a nice batch process of about a dozen silencers, but those were on paper Forms from 2021. I really hope they can batch process the Eforms, but I haven't seen anything showing that this could happen like with the paper Forms.
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Not sure why, but there's a Form signature tracker. I just looked to see if the person who signed my Form was on it (Katelyn Wheat), and she either got married or divorced recently since her name on the Imgur signature list is Katelyn Hardy. Just a random bit of information if you've got a stamp collection and you care about the signatures for whatever reason.
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T3 came out while you were waitingWait: 288
Stamp submitted: July 17, 2022
Stamp received: May 1, 2023
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YHM Turbo T2
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I don’t get the trust complaints. The trusts take longer. If you don’t want to wait then don’t do a trust. But if you do a trust, know it takes longer, looks like around 300. I’d love to have a trust but I’d rather have my cans 3 months earlier so I opted for an individual. It’s what’s more important to you.So they just skipped right on past my 8/19/22 Trust…
It used to NOT take longer. That’s why we’re complaining. I’m not new to this, I have 11 cans. I know damn-well what I’m complaining about.
2 years ago it was the same, individual was faster. So not sure how long ago it was the same?
Yea my 8/12/22 tooSo they just skipped right on past my 8/19/22 Trust…
It sure sounds like you don't understand the purpose of a trust.
Maybe a few days or weeks…Not 3-4 damn months. And no, 2 years ago it wasn’t. I bought 5 cans 2 years ago, and the first 2 only took 8 months from date of purchase to stamps in hand. 1 the dealer has an issue, then an ATF audit, so had to resubmit because they denied over 100 Form 4’s for that dealer because of why they had to audit them…That one took 14 fucking months (instead of 8 like the other 2 purchased at the same time) thanks to the ATF. And the other 2 were after Biden had really started directing the ATF to be douches and slow down the process to a crawl, taking 11 and 13 months for those. Then eForms came along, 90 day bullshit, and then everyone flooded the goddamn system thinking they would get a can in 90 days, and now we’re at over 300. Still think it’s the trusts? It’s the democrats and the ATF slowing shit down.
I put this table together real quick of the month by month data from Reddit, March of 2022 is the oldest data on their web app. This is the median wait in number of days for approved cans month by month for individuals and trusts and the difference between them. April 2023 is a clear outlier, and while watching the data come in, you could see that the difference started the last few days in March. May has only 1 day in the data so far so I left it out of the table, but for May 1st, the difference between trust and individual filings is 77 days. For me, I had fairly high hopes of getting mine in time for hunting, if this trend continues, I'll be lucky to get it by Christmas.
| Month/Year | Individual | Trust | Extra Time for Trust |
| 3/22 | 70 | 74 | 4 |
| 4/22 | 81 | 94 | 13 |
| 5/22 | 110 | 109 | -1 |
| 6/22 | 121 | 128 | 7 |
| 7/22 | 155 | 156 | 1 |
| 8/22 | 173 | 172 | -1 |
| 9/22 | 204 | 203 | -1 |
| 10/22 | 226 | 226 | 0 |
| 11/22 | 245 | 244 | -1 |
| 12/22 | 257 | 258 | 1 |
| 1/23 | 266 | 267 | 1 |
| 2/23 | 271 | 271 | 0 |
| 3/23 | 273 | 275 | 2 |
| 4/23 | 239 | 285 | 46 |
I'm currently waiting on a couple single shot trusts that were certified 7/25/2022, hoping for a approval soon.
Oh I know what a trust is. And I know I can set up a trust later while holding the cans. Not excited to pay 2x but it’s worth it having the can in hand.
So I guess your answers are no. There are those of us that don't have that choice. Why waste the money for a couple of months? Also why the heck would you give the government more money than you have too? Do you pay extra money on your taxes than you have to just because? Cause that is what you are doing.
In my case I want my 338 ultra for hunting season, so I need before October. 200 for a couple months…why not!
Give yer balls a tug, mine is still imprisoned from 7-17.So they just skipped right on past my 8/19/22 Trust…
Do a post of what they all are when you get the rest in. Congrats.
Wow! Did you think, “email server seems slow waiting for my email…” Then Payoff! Very nice, I’m happy for you!!
Yes, indeed! I see that he said those 19 cans were all on one traditional trust. It’s the 19 individual cans on 19 single shot trusts that we aren’t seeing batch approved still or ever that I’ve seen. It’s still good for the rest of us as 19 cans are out of the system.
Modern Warriors in St George, UT. At this time they have 20% off cans.
