Re: Former LEO gone crazy in SoCal
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperUncle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting read. So many people taking other's words and twisting them and then attacking for the words...
ColoShooter and ColoradoCop, you do nothing to bring up the good will towards cops. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You sound just like the Scumbag PA State Troopers who arrested me and charged me with a felony that was never committed.
Other LEOs, you stick up for your brothers, and Support the Blue Line, when they are often not the heroes that they think they are. True Heroes usually don't think they are Heroes.
This guy Dorner is not a crack-pot. He is a very intelligent, although misguided man. He is trying to prove a valid point, but going about it all the wrong way.
The LAPD and other LEAs around there are mishandling this affair horribly.
What a mess. Everyone involved is making it worse.
Sharac, you raise some very interesting points, many of which we Americans would do well to think over and take heed to.
While I do NOT in any way condone Dorner, neither to I condone the LAPD in their actions. We don't know the whole story, and I'm sure we never will, as Dorner will most likely never be taken alive, and even if he was, the truth won't fully come out here on earth.
Like many others, my views towards police are colored by the many acts of being above the law that they commit on a regular basis. How many times do you see them on the freeway doing 15mph above the speed limit? If they aren't responding to an emergency, they have no right to do so. This is just a little thing, but it points to the fact that pretty much all LEOs think they are above the law in one form or another.
Most of them I deal with regularly are okay. Most of them can be down to earth, but in the end, given the right circumstances, they all pull a superior attitude, and think they are higher than the law. </div></div>
First, I assure you that I'm not hanging out on this forum for the sake of kissing your ass, and I really don't have any interest in impressing someone who is in any way attempting to explain away Dorner's actions by saying that: "he is trying to prove a valid point".
But, nevertheless, I'll play for at least a minute here. <span style="font-weight: bold">Where exactly did you see me saying anything in this thread that I should be "ashamed of", or which earned me the title of "scumbag"?</span> <span style="font-weight: bold"> Also, where have I ever demonstrated any attitude that suggested that I believe I'm above the law?
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Please, go start a strongly worded petition, call your congressman, or occupy a street corner... I don't care what you do with your time or your life, but stop blaming me for the problems that you've had with the law. They aren't problems that were caused by me.
By the way, I'll add one more thought on the now-deceased Christopher Dorner. Mr. Dorner is (I guess I should say "was") a psychopath. He went well off of the reservation, and started killing innocent people who had nothing to do with the grievance he believed he had against the LAPD. There's simply no excuse for that, regardless of the validity of his claims. I never doubted Dorner's intelligence, but intelligence has no place in this debate. Plenty of completely evil and soulless people have been intelligent in the history of this world. Dorner demonstrated cold indifference to human life, a disregard for anyone but himself, and a delusional thought process which suggested that he'd be vindicated by these heinous actions. Simply put, whatever he once was is not what he'll be judged by in the history books.
I'm happy enough that he's now gone from this earth, but I'm saddened by the fact that his capture came with a greater death toll for the good guys. As for the questionable nature of the LAPD officer-involved shootings that occurred during the hunt for Dorner, I merely urged restraint in rushing to judgment until the facts of those cases were better known publicly.